The French are not worth saving.
Quote"Unity is our best weapon," declared Hollande, calling on France to be "firm against racism and antisemitism." He was forthright in describing the deadly siege of the kosher grocery in Vincennes today as a "terrifying anti-semitic attack." Other actions taken by the police today suggested the government had reasons to suspect further anti-Semitic actions might have been taken, including the shutdown of a popular shopping district right before the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath would have filled them with shoppers.
Hollande also declared that the "fanatics" who carried out the Charlie Hebdo attack and its bloody aftermath "had nothing to do with the Muslim religion."
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/hollande-terror-attacks-anti-semitic-but-fanatics-have-nothing-to-do-with-islam/ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/hollande-terror-attacks-anti-semitic-but-fanatics-have-nothing-to-do-with-islam/)
As long as the Frogistani government is in
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Frogistani citizens will continue to pay a high price in property and blood.
Something libs never seem to realize, is sticking their head in the sand, merely exposes ones ass to severe attacks.
Who knows wherefor the winds blow in the wastelands of that socialist's head. Those are the poorest choice of words he could make. He's already taking heat for discouraging 'the far Right' to not attend his so-called Unity talks. Wudda putz.
Marie La Pen is the one to watch, there. National Front. Gaining popularity.
Interesting thing about the National Front. They're supposed to be anti-Semitic. Of course if their enemies become the Muslims, don't the Jews become their allies? The enemy of my enemy, and all that.
You knew it would be like this. There would be a big effort to avoid criticizing islam or muslims, there would be a big effort to blame the cartoonists, and there would be a lot of smarmy idiotic BS about how all it needs is more effort from us to be nicer to muslims.
I thought for about 5 seconds that the leftists libs & progs couldn't be that blatantly / willingly stupid after all THIS......but after 5 seconds I sez to myself.....yes, they are that stupid & dishonest, and they pay no price for it, ever. So we should NEVER expect them to divert from the alinsky-taqquiyah script. They'll never stop their game, until LePen gets elected. And even then their media will shift directly to attack mode on the conservatives that win. As we see right here in America.
Bill Maher & Richard Dawkins have been the best arguers against all that bullshit so far. Imagine that if you can even wrap your head around it.
Hollande is a socialist idiot, and not very popular.
He's the one that raised income taxes to 75% then wondered why all the rich people left the country taking their money with them.
There are several anti-immigration political parties in Europe gaining popularity.
Rush had a great bit on Friday, how the NY Times wasn't lamenting the loss of life, or the terror of it all, or the hijacking of france & french society.
Nope, everything they were whining about revolved around the possibility that this could help conservative or right-wing movements.
That's where we are now. The jihadis could kill 100,000 or 1 million with a nuke, and the left would only care that it hurts their brand, and their selfish desires. Wouldn't give a flying crap about the victims.
I'm not much on inserting religious angles into these debates. But I think with the left, we're seeing the growth of true evil, that we're warned about in the Bible, or really any other credible religious book.
The left has passed into the darkness where they will be happy to kill a billion or two with bio terror, or any weapon, if it leaves communism or islam or atheism or sodom & gomorrah as the last things standing. Just like Che wanted to get the nukes flying between USSR & Cuba & USA, to take over with communism from the ashes. Except Che was even a pariah to the left in his heyday......today they've moved all the way to thinking that he had the right idea.
Quote from: Dori on January 10, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
Hollande is a socialist idiot, and not very popular.
He's the one that raised income taxes to 75% then wondered why all the rich people left the country taking their money with them.
There are several anti-immigration political parties in Europe gaining popularity.
Well, as long as they keep electing Hollande, Obama, people like Chavez in SA & CA, Pope Francis lol.......it won't matter much how idiotic and incompetent they continue to be.
We can only pray for a big wakeup in America & Europe. Right now there isn't even a clear cut change in france after all of this. The left is playing a strong 4-corners against the obvious. They can win too, without some effort from our side. So far Obama doesn't even know that he lost anything in November. He thinks he can announce that he won, and wins forever, and that's that. Nothing to change his mind so far.
Quote from: Dori on January 10, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
Hollande is a socialist idiot, and not very popular.
He's the one that raised income taxes to 75% then wondered why all the rich people left the country taking their money with them.
There are several anti-immigration political parties in Europe gaining popularity.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The obvious always alludes the leftists.
But this is evidence of what we can expect here with the Marxists war on the rich in their attempt to create envy and hatred of Capitalists, it didn't work there and it won't work here.
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2015, 11:10:37 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The obvious always alludes the leftists.
But this is evidence of what we can expect here with the Marxists war on the rich in their attempt to create envy and hatred of Capitalists, it didn't work there and it won't work here.
Unfortunately the recent pattern of attacks around the world indicates there will be more and probably one here in the US. I am not convinced Obama will even acknowledge a problem then which is sad.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
Unfortunately the recent pattern of attacks around the world indicates there will be more and probably one here in the US. I am not convinced Obama will even acknowledge a problem then which is sad.
Correct, but just because the King runs naked in the streets claiming to be dressed by the best clothier in the land, doesn't stop the people from seeing the naked moron running his yap.
He may think he fools the public, and the media may run block for him, but they can't hide the obvious truths that Muscum terrorists are the sole enemy here.
Yes, we are at war with I-slum.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
Unfortunately the recent pattern of attacks around the world indicates there will be more and probably one here in the US. I am not convinced Obama will even acknowledge a problem then which is sad.
If it happens in the next 2 years, it will be as though it didn't happen.
Shunted off to virtual non-recognized, workplace or domestic violence.......and terrorism or islam will be censored from the MSM.
Victims will be reduced to never-existed, absolutely no recognition from the govt. No benefits or legal standing for any purpose.
Terrorists / enemies of America will be given a comfy smokescreen / diversion / 4-corners-D until they fall off everyone's radar.
It's the template from Ft. Hood, Boston, Bergdahl, etc. Why would we ever see (or expect) anything different ?
If the new Congress & Senate do anything differently in the near future, some of this could change. But I simply don't expect any of that.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
If it happens in the next 2 years, it will be as though it didn't happen.
Shunted off to virtual non-recognized, workplace or domestic violence.......and terrorism or islam will be censored from the MSM.
Victims will be reduced to never-existed, absolutely no recognition from the govt. No benefits or legal standing for any purpose.
Terrorists / enemies of America will be given a comfy smokescreen / diversion / 4-corners-D until they fall off everyone's radar.
It's the template from Ft. Hood, Boston, Bergdahl, etc. Why would we ever see (or expect) anything different ?
If the new Congress & Senate do anything differently in the near future, some of this could change. But I simply don't expect any of that.
Ya know Andy, the only way someone can come to these conclusions, is if they are glued to the TV!
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
Ya know Andy, the only way someone can come to these conclusions, is if they are glued to the TV!
Well, I don't watch much TV. Just a few action shows like NCIS, SVU, Criminal Minds, Walking Dead, and the knife channel lol. Plus some sports or Pickers / Pawn / Auction. I don't watch MSM because it's too annoying and a waste of time.
I just want to see the actual proof of things. You had a good run in the Nov elections. But I'm still not going to just assume into existence your predictions, of massive victories in the congress & senate. Give me some evidence in the way of legislation, investigations, sanctions, etc.
Our side has a bad track record of squandering opportunities, and taking our foot off the gas as soon as we get going. Show me something different in the next 3 months. Otherwise you're whistling past the junkyard.
Show me that this time we'll have more to show than we ended up with Newt. He's awesome in a vacuum, but not necessarily as a long term solution. Give me somebody / something that's long term.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2015, 12:07:29 PM
Well, I don't watch much TV. Just a few action shows like NCIS, SVU, Criminal Minds, Walking Dead, and the knife channel lol. Plus some sports or Pickers / Pawn / Auction. I don't watch MSM because it's too annoying and a waste of time.
I just want to see the actual proof of things. You had a good run in the Nov elections. But I'm still not going to just assume into existence your predictions, of massive victories in the congress & senate. Give me some evidence in the way of legislation, investigations, sanctions, etc.
Our side has a bad track record of squandering opportunities, and taking our foot off the gas as soon as we get going. Show me something different in the next 3 months. Otherwise you're whistling past the junkyard.
Show me that this time we'll have more to show than we ended up with Newt. He's awesome in a vacuum, but not necessarily as a long term solution. Give me somebody / something that's long term.
The new congress was just convened this past week and the House has already passed the Keystone pipeline. It is a process.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/10/paris-attacks-may-reveal-hidden-fight-for-recognition-between-al-qaeda-and/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/10/paris-attacks-may-reveal-hidden-fight-for-recognition-between-al-qaeda-and/)
This is one reason we are likely to see more attacks and more serious ones. ISIS and Al Quada are competing for recruits and money. They believe attacks are the best recruiting tactic for both.
Col. Peters has the right idea. Follow what the "greatest generation" did in WWII. Kill the hell out of them. It is the only thing they understand.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 01:13:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/10/paris-attacks-may-reveal-hidden-fight-for-recognition-between-al-qaeda-and/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/10/paris-attacks-may-reveal-hidden-fight-for-recognition-between-al-qaeda-and/)
This is one reason we are likely to see more attacks and more serious ones. ISIS and Al Quada are competing for recruits and money. They believe attacks are the best recruiting tactic for both.
Col. Peters has the right idea. Follow what the "greatest generation" did in WWII. Kill the hell out of them. It is the only thing they understand.
They are 24/7/365.......60 minutes per hour. Sort of like the American Alinsky-Cloward-Piven-Sanger Left.
We are still collectively scratching our asses and saying "huh....wut.....something we said ?.....should we apologize ?.....let's not make the media and academia mad at us."
Until we get to the point of living Peters' philosophy..........we are ceding ground.
Sorry if you don't like the truth. I'm sure Neville Chamberlain hated it too.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2015, 12:07:29 PM
Well, I don't watch much TV. Just a few action shows like NCIS, SVU, Criminal Minds, Walking Dead, and the knife channel lol. Plus some sports or Pickers / Pawn / Auction. I don't watch MSM because it's too annoying and a waste of time.
I just want to see the actual proof of things. You had a good run in the Nov elections. But I'm still not going to just assume into existence your predictions, of massive victories in the congress & senate. Give me some evidence in the way of legislation, investigations, sanctions, etc.
Our side has a bad track record of squandering opportunities, and taking our foot off the gas as soon as we get going. Show me something different in the next 3 months. Otherwise you're whistling past the junkyard.
Show me that this time we'll have more to show than we ended up with Newt. He's awesome in a vacuum, but not necessarily as a long term solution. Give me somebody / something that's long term.
Point is, your opinion is based on leftist media narrative, one you've obviously fallen for.
Your opinion is not one derived from simple observations based on our (TEA) wins, rather those claimed as wins by the left or Establishment.
Just because you don't hear the left tout our successes, you interpret these as losses.
Quote from: Solar on January 10, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
Correct, but just because the King runs naked in the streets claiming to be dressed by the best clothier in the land, doesn't stop the people from seeing the naked moron running his yap.
He may think he fools the public, and the media may run block for him, but they can't hide the obvious truths that Muscum terrorists are the sole enemy here.
Yes, we are at war with I-slum.
Trouble is, that's not a view subscribed to by the current administration or much of the legacy media. THAT is what we need to change, and barring somebody lighting off a nuke in NYC in the name of Allah, that won't happen until at least 2017.
Until then, I think it's more accurate to say that Islam is very much at war with us, no matter how many of the "us" can't bring themselves to say those words.
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 10, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Trouble is, that's not a view subscribed to by the current administration or much of the legacy media. THAT is what we need to change, and barring somebody lighting off a nuke in NYC in the name of Allah, that won't happen until at least 2017.
Until then, I think it's more accurate to say that Islam is very much at war with us, no matter how many of the "us" can't bring themselves to say those words.
Precisely. And the leftists believe if we don't retaliate, then there is no war.
I can't help but think this attitude is going to change worldwide rapidly within a decade.
That is, after millions are killed in a single day.
Another CHickensheet moron who thinks that appeasement can mollify the Muzz.Do these idiots know that saying this is just a sign of weakness to those people?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 10, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Another CHickensheet moron who thinks that appeasement can mollify the Muzz.Do these idiots know that saying this is just a sign of weakness to those people?
He's got entire sections of town cordoned off for thew islamoanimals, a police force he can't arm even after THIS outrage (although more SWAT style forces are likely), and absolutely nowhere to go because Germany isn't liking Islam any better than the ever-gutless French. They caved in. Happy freaking dhimmitude, you morons.
Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2015, 10:32:30 AM
Interesting thing about the National Front. They're supposed to be anti-Semitic. Of course if their enemies become the Muslims, don't the Jews become their allies? The enemy of my enemy, and all that.
Hadn't realized the National Front was anti-Semitic. Figures they would attract that crowd.
This is what we have been saying for years, if the leaders don't get off their hands, we'll
wind up with full blown Nazism. Wasn't that what Hitler called himself, National Socialist?
I mean, it really p---- you off when you think about it. Why do they want this to happen?
France French right wing is going to capitalize on this.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 11, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
France French right wing is going to capitalize on this.
That's what I thought when I saw all those people waving (*cough, cough*) Le Pens in the air.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 11, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
France French right wing is going to capitalize on this.
The French right wing is not anything thike our TEA movement; they seem to go straight to what attracked Vichy to Der Fuehrer! It won't be helpful if zwaztika goose stepping becomes the visuals our Communist Cabal can use to paint all (our) Right Wing with a broad brush!
Quote from: red_dirt on January 11, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
Hadn't realized the National Front was anti-Semitic. Figures they would attract that crowd. This is what we have been saying for years, if the leaders don't get off their hands, we'll wind up with full blown Nazism. Wasn't that what Hitler called himself, National Socialist?
I mean, it really p---- you off when you think about it. Why do they want this to happen?
These groups are growing across Europe, they're getting support because of their anti-immigration stances.
Quote from: red_dirt on January 11, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
Hadn't realized the National Front was anti-Semitic. Figures they would attract that crowd.
This is what we have been saying for years, if the leaders don't get off their hands, we'll
wind up with full blown Nazism. Wasn't that what Hitler called himself, National Socialist?
I mean, it really p---- you off when you think about it. Why do they want this to happen?
I heard Beck say something really interesting this morning on Nazi-ism vs. communism.
He said that communism runs on "workers of the world unite", i.e. always a world-wide revolution.
While Hitler's brand of socialism was Germany first, screw everybody else. Ostensibly why the true communists and one-world capitalists were against him. And just my opinion, socialism only in that everything gets nationalized and run by one fascist dictator.
But Beck said that Hitler sucked in most of the communists and socialists early...........then killed them all after he had total power, lol.
Quote from: Dori on January 12, 2015, 06:08:20 AM
These groups are growing across Europe, they're getting support because of their anti-immigration stances.
There is a very strong and supported argument that the socialist left is using Islamic immigration and Islamic fundamentalism to further the communist objectives in the west.
This was posted in a series of arguments by a scholar who specialized in the Fabian Society
in England.
There is another argument that Islamic fundamentalism was brought to life through programs initiated under Yuri Andropov when he was head of the KGB in the former Soviet Union. These arguments are presented in book form by General Mihail Pacepa, former head of the Romanian KGB and author of "Misinformation."
If authoritarian regimes are part of the plan, that would make sense.
Absolutely antithetical to the Tea Party or conservative American values. See how the
politicians and the leftist media manipulates the game. I support the EDL. It is a constant
battle with the mainstream to resist Sharia and nations within the nations without being
branded as fascist. Of course it is a leftist game, but so entrenched.
Quote from: red_dirt on January 12, 2015, 08:38:08 AM
There is a very strong and supported argument that the socialist left is using Islamic immigration and Islamic fundamentalism to further the communist objectives in the west.
This was posted in a series of arguments by a scholar who specialized in the Fabian Society
in England.
There is another argument that Islamic fundamentalism was brought to life through programs initiated under Yuri Andropov when he was head of the KGB in the former Soviet Union. These arguments are presented in book form by General Mihail Pacepa, former head of the Romanian KGB and author of "Misinformation."
If authoritarian regimes are part of the plan, that would make sense.
Absolutely antithetical to the Tea Party or conservative American values. See how the
politicians and the leftist media manipulates the game. I support the EDL. It is a constant
battle with the mainstream to resist Sharia and nations within the nations without being
branded as fascist. Of course it is a leftist game, but so entrenched.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that commies capitalized on Wahhabi radicalism and helped feed it's growth.
Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I wouldn't doubt for a second that commies capitalized on Wahhabi radicalism and helped feed it's growth.
The enemy of my enemy is always in play.
Though liberals / progressives who want to celebrate the LGBTQ, cultural diversity, childish freedom from laws, women's rights, and so on.........are pretty stupid to join forces with islam.
On the other hand, the USSR, China, NKorea, and now Putin........just about dead-on agreement with sharia's take on all that stuff.
Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
I wouldn't doubt for a second that commies capitalized on Wahhabi radicalism and helped feed it's growth.
Several KGB agents that have defected have said they were instrumental in training Muslims in terrorism. Supposedly Iran's Ali Khamenei attended an elite college in Russia and was in an Anti-American program when he was in his 20's. I think if we dig into it, we will find a communist connection to a lot of the terrorism against Israel and the West.
Lt. General Pacepa is the highest ranking Soviet defector in America. He was the commanding officer of the Romanian KGB when he was ordered to develop an odorless plastic explosive that dogs or sniffers could not detect, for use in taking down aircraft. That was expressed to him as Romania's "contribution" to the cause of inciting a fundamentalist Islamic Jihad, mesmerizing and galvanizing the Arab world. The Romanians complied. According to the General, world terror has a 30 year supply of the explosive on hand now, some 10-15 tons.
The Soviets flooded the middle east with teachers, artists, writers, media people, politicians, and training to incite the Jihad, according to General Pacepa, who now lives incognito. He is a top priority Soviet target. "Disinformation" is available on Amazon, last I checked, pre publication a year ago.
Quote from: quiller on January 10, 2015, 08:28:52 AM
The French are not worth saving.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/hollande-terror-attacks-anti-semitic-but-fanatics-have-nothing-to-do-with-islam/ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/hollande-terror-attacks-anti-semitic-but-fanatics-have-nothing-to-do-with-islam/)
Methinks the Froggy doth protest a bit too Little!
(could it be fear that doth tie the Froggy's tongue?)
The no go zones and pervasive climate of political correctness and multiculturalism are all failed polies that the Muscum have exploited to make the French people hostages in their own country!
Quote from: wally on January 12, 2015, 01:16:10 PM
Methinks the Froggy doth protest a bit too Little!
(could it be fear that doth tie the Froggy's tongue?)
The no go zones and pervasive climate of political correctness and multiculturalism are all failed polies that the Muscum have exploited to make the French people hostages in their own country!
The "no go" zones are a real example of what the outcome of appeasement will be. Denial has never solved any problem.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 12, 2015, 01:23:08 PM
The "no go" zones are a real example of what the outcome of appeasement will be. Denial has never solved any problem.
DeNile is more than just a river in Africa! :ttoung:
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 12, 2015, 01:23:08 PM
The "no go" zones are a real example of what the outcome of appeasement will be. Denial has never solved any problem.
It's also the biggest fear for them now. They literally can't do anything about it, though they must.
If they try to clean them out, it's a war.
They're probably all stocked to the gills with smuggled weapons, but even where they aren't, they'll all come out swinging axes and pitchforks and shovels, ready for their martyr-card and 72 sturgeons. Dead cops or dead, sympathy-coated muslims. Take your pick.
I'll bet the frog govt prefers the terrorism to this scenario, and will try to just let it ride as is.