Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
From the posts I just read, I think the yahoo article is spot on.

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".  You guys even know a liberal?
we are all those teachers and professors and scientists and probably the guy next door!
We are the ones with jobs with benefits! I get health, dental, prescription and eyes covered!

Why do we think conservatives are ignorant?

well, they re-elected Bush AFTER finding out the he LIED about the WMD in iraq.

They believe in "trickle down economics" even though after 30 years of it, it still hasn't worked.

They believe in Deregulation, even though every economist on the planet traces the global crash to the deregulation if the banking industry!

They think Michelle Bachmann was a viable candidate!
I mean seriously guys,
Oh and now Gingrich want a base on the Moon!
AND they cheered!
yup, sharp as tacks these conservatives.

You're right, you are employed by those of us paying the taxes.
Conservatives are the entrepreneurs of the economy, you work for us evil greedy bastards.
So be kind, we don't have to hire your useless asses.

Quote from: Holly101 on January 29, 2012, 11:43:26 AM

"CONSERVATIVES – believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense.  We believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

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LIBERALS – believe in governmental action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all, and that it is the duty of the State to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Believe that people are basically good.

Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve people's problems."

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There will be exceptions to either one of these groups but liberals are blinded to the fact that almost 50% of our people are dependent on the government for hand-outs. The other 50% is tired of giving it to them.  Now, Obama says it's not enough.  If you've worked your ass off for years to make a comfortable living, then Obama wants you to spread that money around to the ones that sit on their ass all day and watch soaps.
Now, what's fair about that?
As for our candidates, most of us have no control over who runs on the republican ticket.  The republican nominee is decided long before it gets to my state.  Sometimes, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

True Holly and liberalism also goes against human nature to compete, in turn making the economy weaker.
But give someone just enough to exist on and you remove their drive to compete.
Why should I work if I don't have to, especially when the gov steals from those that do, so why work, the Gov will just take my money and give it to some other loser not willing to work.

The end result is always the same, those that produce look for other countries that are not going to steal the fruits of their labor, in turn, leaving no one left to produce and pay taxes.

This of course leads inevitably to communism where the state takes over industry because no one is left willing to work and have their profits stolen by a lib/socialist gov.

Quote from: Holly101 on January 29, 2012, 11:43:26 AM

"CONSERVATIVES – believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense.  We believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals.

Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

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LIBERALS – believe in governmental action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all, and that it is the duty of the State to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Believe that people are basically good.

Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve people's problems."

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There will be exceptions to either one of these groups but liberals are blinded to the fact that almost 50% of our people are dependent on the government for hand-outs. The other 50% is tired of giving it to them.  Now, Obama says it's not enough.  If you've worked your ass off for years to make a comfortable living, then Obama wants you to spread that money around to the ones that sit on their ass all day and watch soaps.
Now, what's fair about that?
As for our candidates, most of us have no control over who runs on the republican ticket.  The republican nominee is decided long before it gets to my state.  Sometimes, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

I couldn't have said it better Hollie.  The government takes away the drive to succeed that people have.   I once told a neighbor of mine who was on welfare to get off her ass I was tired of supporting her.  She sold pot on the side to be able to afford her own stash and regularly traded her WIC (for her son) for cash or beer.  These are the people who vote liberal just to keep getting something for nothing.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
From the posts I just read, I think the yahoo article is spot on.

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".  You guys even know a liberal?
we are all those teachers and professors and scientists and probably the guy next door!
We are the ones with jobs with benefits! I get health, dental, prescription and eyes covered!

Why do we think conservatives are ignorant?

well, they re-elected Bush AFTER finding out the he LIED about the WMD in iraq.

They believe in "trickle down economics" even though after 30 years of it, it still hasn't worked.

They believe in Deregulation, even though every economist on the planet traces the global crash to the deregulation if the banking industry!

They think Michelle Bachmann was a viable candidate!
I mean seriously guys,
Oh and now Gingrich want a base on the Moon!
AND they cheered!
yup, sharp as tacks these conservatives.

I don't know which is sadder, the fact that you kvetch about us stereotyping liberals before going on to stereotype conservatives in the same post, or the fact that you probably won't see the hypocrisy there.

Quote from: Just_NO_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
From the posts I just read, I think the yahoo article is spot on.

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".

It would be a treat if you named them...  but a boy can dream.

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You guys even know a liberal?

I do, and we talk all the time.  Usually the conversation starts with me saying "I'll have a number 5... Value size... unsweet tea".

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we are all those teachers and professors

With no life experience, finding refuge behind a computer or book, terrified of the day they may have to contribute to society.

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and scientists and probably the guy next door!

I doubt many real scientists.  Not my neighborhood...

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We are the ones with jobs with benefits! I get health, dental, prescription and eyes covered!

You're welcome.

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Why do we think conservatives are ignorant?

Because we don't understand how Co2 can be a pollutant?  Or how a poor person is beneficial to the economy?  Or why we should be able to shoot intruders dead if they attack us?  I guess there are many reasons.

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well, they re-elected Bush AFTER finding out the he LIED about the WMD in iraq.

How did he lie?  What in Powell's presentation to the UN was a lie?

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They believe in "trickle down economics" even though after 30 years of it, it still hasn't worked.

The more rich people there are, the more the middle class increases.  It really isn't difficult.

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They believe in Deregulation, even though every economist on the planet traces the global crash to the deregulation if the banking industry!

Please explain. (hint: you can't)

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They think Michelle Bachmann was a viable candidate!

She was.

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I mean seriously guys,
Oh and now Gingrich want a base on the Moon!

Space exploration is a crazy concept?

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AND they cheered!
yup, sharp as tacks these conservatives.

It's time you changed your drool cup.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
From the posts I just read, I think the yahoo article is spot on.

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".  You guys even know a liberal?
we are all those teachers and professors and scientists and probably the guy next door!
We are the ones with jobs with benefits! I get health, dental, prescription and eyes covered!

Why do we think conservatives are ignorant?

well, they re-elected Bush AFTER finding out the he LIED about the WMD in iraq.

They believe in "trickle down economics" even though after 30 years of it, it still hasn't worked.

They believe in Deregulation, even though every economist on the planet traces the global crash to the deregulation if the banking industry!

They think Michelle Bachmann was a viable candidate!
I mean seriously guys,
Oh and now Gingrich want a base on the Moon!
AND they cheered!
yup, sharp as tacks these conservatives.

One thing liberals do excell in is posting the most lies per square inch. You just proved it.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".  You guys even know a liberal?
we are all those teachers and professors and scientists and probably the guy next door!

And you are proud of this...why?  Academia has become the modern day Luddite movement...only difference being that the British Government successfully put down the original anti-industry movement in the early 19th Century while the progressive governments of the 20th and 21st Centuries became the true-believers and followed the message of the Academics by destroying our technology.  Instead of the machine-breaking of their 19th Century predecessors, these progressive governments over-regulated our resources (in the name of ecology) and overtaxed or over-unionized our industries (in the name of entitlements) until all our manufacturing had to move into the Third World (where no regulations, taxes or unionization exists) to survive.  The United States has now become a service industry nation...we extract no natural resources and manufacture nothing.

Quote from: bluelieu on January 30, 2012, 09:47:24 AM
And you are proud of this...why?  Academia has become the modern day Luddite movement...only difference being that the British Government successfully put down the original anti-industry movement in the early 19th Century while the progressive governments of the 20th and 21st Centuries became the true-believers and followed the message of the Academics by destroying our technology.  Instead of the machine-breaking of their 19th Century predecessors, these progressive governments over-regulated our resources (in the name of ecology) and overtaxed or over-unionized our industries (in the name of entitlements) until all our manufacturing had to move into the Third World (where no regulations, taxes or unionization exists) to survive.  The United States has now become a service industry nation...we extract no natural resources and manufacture nothing.

Well said Blue and all true.
It wasn't Conservatives that fought industry, it was and still the leftists.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on January 29, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
From the posts I just read, I think the yahoo article is spot on.

Bunch of conservative, anti liberal "talking points".  You guys even know a liberal?
we are all those teachers and professors and scientists and probably the guy next door!

So you are responsible for our education system failing our children and lying about climate change.

QuoteWe are the ones with jobs with benefits! I get health, dental, prescription and eyes covered!

Awesome! The you can't whine about the state of our health care system

QuoteWhy do we think conservatives are ignorant?

because the article told you to think that way.

Quotewell, they re-elected Bush AFTER finding out the he LIED about the WMD in iraq.

A 7 year old talking point that was proven to false 7 years ago.

QuoteThey believe in "trickle down economics" even though after 30 years of it, it still hasn't worked.

Oh dear. That means you cannot claim Clinton presided over a booming economy and you can't claim Bush ruined the economy because according to you we are still in the same economic situation Carter gave us.

QuoteThey believe in Deregulation, even though every economist on the planet traces the global crash to the deregulation if the banking industry!

Just another lie.

QuoteThey think Michelle Bachmann was a viable candidate!
I mean seriously guys,
Oh and now Gingrich want a base on the Moon!
AND they cheered!
yup, sharp as tacks these conservatives.

So the only argument you have is to call people stupid...

To recap you have admitted that you liberals are responsible for destroying our education system, the hoax that is climate change, and that our health care system is working fine for you oh and  according to you the economy has not in any way improved since the 1970's which means you have taken away one o the biggest achievements of the Clinton Administration and you have taken away one of the biggest accusations levied at the Bush Administration.

You sir are a baboon. An almost magical baboon.

Quote from: Holly on January 29, 2012, 11:43:26 AM

There will be exceptions to either one of these groups but liberals are blinded to the fact that almost 50% of our people are dependent on the government for hand-outs.

this factoid is going to need some proof. NO way 50% of the population are dependent on the government.
Rush tell you this? Beck?

You better define "dependent" while you are are at it,  since you are speaking in "conservative speak"

Quote from: Holly on January 29, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
As for our candidates, most of us have no control over who runs on the republican ticket.  The republican nominee is decided long before it gets to my state.  Sometimes, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Lesser of 2 evils IS OBAMA!

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 03, 2012, 11:27:41 PM
this factoid is going to need some proof. NO way 50% of the population are dependent on the government.
Rush tell you this? Beck?

Over half of Hussein's budget is welfare spending (hence why he is the welfare president):
http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/budget-entitlement-programs

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You better define "dependent" while you are are at it,  since you are speaking in "conservative speak"

People who receive money from the government.  I know you are young and starting out, but you'll learn these complex terms.

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Lesser of 2 evils IS OBAMA!

Hussein is the worst, and is destroying us.

Quote from: taxed on February 04, 2012, 06:42:02 AM
Over half of Hussein's budget is welfare spending (hence why he is the welfare president):

More conservative VOMIT! (using TAXED's own words)

Medicare is NOT welfare

SS is NOT welfare (in fact you may know it's something WE pay into, you do know that right?)

I think the quote about 50% of the population being "dependent" on the government was from Josie.
Your info is not helping her prove squat, in fact it proves ME to be only one dealing in fact here.

Another bit of conservative propaganda TOTALLY unsupported by any evidence!

Quote from: taxed on February 04, 2012, 06:42:02 AM
Hussein is the worst, and is destroying us.

this would be conservative propaganda totally unsupported by any statistics, TAXED!
care to back that up with FACT!

And for the "challenged" conservatives, that would be GDP, exports, manufacturing. ALL up.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on February 04, 2012, 11:08:44 AM
More conservative VOMIT! (using TAXED's own words)

Medicare is NOT welfare

SS is NOT welfare (in fact you may know it's something WE pay into, you do know that right?)

I think the quote about 50% of the population being "dependent" on the government was from Josie.
Your info is not helping her prove squat, in fact it proves ME to be only one dealing in fact here.

Another bit of conservative propaganda TOTALLY unsupported by any evidence!

this would be conservative propaganda totally unsupported by any statistics, TAXED!
care to back that up with FACT!

And for the "challenged" conservatives, that would be GDP, exports, manufacturing. ALL up.

His own words...
Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket

He stated under his plan energy prices would sky rocket, and they have.
Is this not destroying our economy?

Electric bills have skyrocketed in the last five years, a sharp reversal from a quarter-century  when Americans enjoyed stable power bills even as they used more electricity.

   
• File photo by Jim Cole, AP
  More electricity use at homes and higher prices are driving up power bills.

File photo by Jim Cole, AP
More electricity use at homes and higher prices are driving up power bills.Households paid a record $1,419 on average for electricity in 2010, the fifth consecutive yearly increase above the inflation rate, a USA TODAY analysis of government data found. The jump has added about $300 a year to what households pay for electricity. That's the largest sustained increase since a  run-up in electricity prices during the 1970s.
Electricty is consuming a greater share of Americans' after-tax income than at any time since 1996 — about $1.50 of every $100 in income at a time when income growth has stagnated, a USA TODAY analysis of Bureau of Economic Analysis data found.
Greater electricity use at home and higher prices per kilowatt hour are both driving the higher costs, in roughly equal measure:
•Residential demand for power dropped briefly in 2009 but rebounded strongly last year to a record high. Air-conditioners and household appliances use less power than ever. A new refrigerator consumes half the electricity as a similar one bought in 1990. But consumers have bigger houses, more air-conditioning and more electronics than before, outpacing gains in efficiency and conservation.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-13/electric-bills/51840042/1

Quote from: Just_NO_facts_mamm on February 04, 2012, 11:08:44 AM
More conservative VOMIT! (using TAXED's own words)

Medicare is NOT welfare

SS is NOT welfare (in fact you may know it's something WE pay into, you do know that right?)

I think the quote about 50% of the population being "dependent" on the government was from Josie.
Your info is not helping her prove squat, in fact it proves ME to be only one dealing in fact here.

Another bit of conservative propaganda TOTALLY unsupported by any evidence!

Look back under my last post and click on the link.

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this would be conservative propaganda totally unsupported by any statistics, TAXED!
care to back that up with FACT!

And for the "challenged" conservatives, that would be GDP, exports, manufacturing. ALL up.

Hussein is a Marxist.  That's like having to prove the sky is blue.

Fun with idiots...