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Title: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Was this an accident or planned?


https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1374465748458893314
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 24, 2021, 07:02:12 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExMVQA2VIAUhJWe?format=png&name=small)

Yeah..... that's gonna be a problem....
Has Iran claimed responsibility yet?   
How many cargo planes of US Dollars will it take to clear the Suez Canal?

Or, maybe it's the Yemeni freedom fighters (whatever they call themselves), holding up Dubai & Saudis for some coin...?

Any bets on it tipping over?  Or losing a few containers?   Inquiring minds...
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Owebo on March 24, 2021, 07:56:10 AM
Biden's team said it was the wind....
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 09:33:33 AM
Quote from: Owebo on March 24, 2021, 07:56:10 AM
Biden's team said it was the wind....
OK, then it was planned. Dims always lie, so the answer is usually the opposite of whatever the claim.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solars Toy on March 24, 2021, 12:11:37 PM
Clinton was given the Secret Service codename "Evergreen" when her husband Bill Clinton was president.

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-ship-suez-canal-hillary-clinton-1578428

Coincidence?????

Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 12:16:25 PM
A Cargo Ship Drew a Giant Dick Pic in the Ocean Then Got Stuck in the Suez Canal
Just before blocking one of the world's busiest waterways where 10 percent of world trade flows, the unfortunate Ever Given sailed an even more unfortunate course.


(https://video-images.vice.com/articles/605b17b4c2eb440092d3f384/lede/1616589672746-giant-dick-pic-thumb.png?crop=0.9993xw:0.9975xh;0xw,0xh&resize=1000:*)

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdjzb/cargo-ship-suez-canal-dick-pic-ever-given

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5IKbYcLgQA
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1375014870123483142
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Owebo on March 24, 2021, 09:51:07 PM
Evidently the captain of the boat was picked because she was a woman and not because of her qualifications....
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2021, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: Owebo on March 24, 2021, 09:51:07 PM
Evidently the captain of the boat was picked because she was a woman and not because of her qualifications....
Hillary? :biggrin:

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: df18d2 No.8113297
Feb 12 2020 11:45:18 (EST)
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The lines are drawn.
[Zw7301-&vQ-00-00-03]
Define Renegade [Hussein USSS code name].
Standard definition.
Define Evergreen [HRC USSS code name]
Non-standard defintion.
Think depopulation.
The Silent War continues...
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Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 12:41:07 AM
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article23787940.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_the-captain-of-this-Suez-ship-is-a-performance-artist-trollShip-blocking-Suez-canal-draws-very-rude.jpg)

One person joked: "Guys, the captain of this Suez ship is a performance artist troll."

Another asked: "Not just me seeing the giant c*** 'n balls us it?"

A third added: "I can believe that was unintentional... but still darkly hilarious."

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Can't figure out who the Captain is...
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: winterset on March 25, 2021, 01:53:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1375014870123483142

Contrary to what many are led to believe, this is not a major concern.  There will be problems for some but not many.  The Suez Canal is simply not as important as it once was.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2021, 01:53:57 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 12:41:07 AM
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article23787940.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_the-captain-of-this-Suez-ship-is-a-performance-artist-trollShip-blocking-Suez-canal-draws-very-rude.jpg)

One person joked: "Guys, the captain of this Suez ship is a performance artist troll."

Another asked: "Not just me seeing the giant c*** 'n balls us it?"

A third added: "I can believe that was unintentional... but still darkly hilarious."

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Can't figure out who the Captain is...
I know, what are the odds? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2021, 02:12:06 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1375113912354549761
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 03:41:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2021, 02:12:06 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1375113912354549761
LOLOLOLOL
When I was a maintenance man for an apartment complex... lots of wealthy people, really nice place...
I'd get these calls, "Miss so-an-so is stuck in her garage, can you assist her?"

After the 3rd - 4th call, I bought a floor jack on rollers.  Moved a lot of cars, of some really wealthy & smart people...  I mean inventors, executives, professors, etc., they couldn't park a car in a 2 car garage.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 05:07:27 AM
Note to Excavator.... dig on the OTHER SIDE of the ship!
(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106859218-1616688634934-106859218-1616671935080-106859218-16166718722021-03-25t105111z_978043977_rc2aim9vkdu2_rtrmadp_0_egypt-suezcanal-ship.jpg?v=1616688645&w=740&h=416)

If you can't get a barge with a couple of excavators on it, why waste the time -oh, maybe this is just for show, while they figure out what to do next (like excavate on the side of the ship that's towards open water?)
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2021, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 05:07:27 AM
Note to Excavator.... dig on the OTHER SIDE of the ship!
(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106859218-1616688634934-106859218-1616671935080-106859218-16166718722021-03-25t105111z_978043977_rc2aim9vkdu2_rtrmadp_0_egypt-suezcanal-ship.jpg?v=1616688645&w=740&h=416)

If you can't get a barge with a couple of excavators on it, why waste the time -oh, maybe this is just for show, while they figure out what to do next (like excavate on the side of the ship that's towards open water?)
Amazing! Have they never heard of a modern day dredge?

Check this out. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You seriously cannot make this stuff up folks, check this out.

So the ship that got "stuck" is called the H3RC.

Remind you of anything?

HRC = Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Or as many of you affectionately refer to her, Hillary Rotten Clinton.

Now here's where it gets good....

The ship trying to free the H3RC is the "Baraka".

For real.

Oh, and three ships around it are called the Mosaed (Mossad) 1, 2 and 3.

Are you kidding me?

All true, take a look:

https://welovetrump.com/2021/03/25/the-evergreen-story-continues-to-unfold-red-sea-moment/
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: winterset on March 25, 2021, 09:47:23 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 25, 2021, 05:07:27 AM
Note to Excavator.... dig on the OTHER SIDE of the ship!
(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106859218-1616688634934-106859218-1616671935080-106859218-16166718722021-03-25t105111z_978043977_rc2aim9vkdu2_rtrmadp_0_egypt-suezcanal-ship.jpg?v=1616688645&w=740&h=416)

If you can't get a barge with a couple of excavators on it, why waste the time -oh, maybe this is just for show, while they figure out what to do next (like excavate on the side of the ship that's towards open water?)
First the Egyptians said it might take a day or so.
Then a couple of days
Then a couple of weeks....
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2021, 11:47:27 PM
Quote from: winterset on March 25, 2021, 09:47:23 PM
First the Egyptians said it might take a day or so.
Then a couple of days
Then a couple of weeks....
Yep....
The global disruption in trade almost appears to have been planned. Bitme tried to kill off US oil production, instantly sending energy prices on a surge increase of 2%, then this shit.
Prices are about to increase dramatically across the board since every cost is associated at the root of production through oil. Oil trade of 12% globally got caught in this traffic jam.

Remember OPEC? They must be dancing at the moment, every communist regime will see a boon in income. The question is, who did it?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2021, 03:24:29 AM
The video proves this was a purposeful move. Watch closely as the ship moves to the left side of the straightway in the canal, then veers as hard right as possible and buries its bow in the bank.


officials admit 'human error' may have caused crash after first blaming 'wind'


https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2021/03/27/1505588388231398647/1024x576_MP4_1505588388231398647.mp4

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9409003/Moment-Given-crashed-Suez-Canal-caught-video.html
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: je_freedom on March 27, 2021, 05:17:19 AM
From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Suez_Canal_obstruction

The government of Egypt requires a ship traversing the canal to be boarded by an Egyptian "Suez crew",
including one or more official maritime pilots from Egypt's Suez Canal Authority (SCA)
who commands the ship, taking over from the regular crew.
There were two Egyptian SCA pilots on board at the time of the accident.[21][22]

~

At the time of the incident, Ever Given was travelling
from Tanjung Pelepas, Malaysia, to Rotterdam, Netherlands.[23][24]
It was fifth in a northbound convoy,
with fifteen vessels behind it when it ran aground.[5]
All crew were Indian nationals.[25]
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: shhh on March 27, 2021, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Was this an accident or planned?


https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1374465748458893314
I suspect it's a habbening.  What's in those containers?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2021, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: shhh on March 27, 2021, 05:00:23 PM
I suspect it's a habbening.  What's in those containers?
:biggrin:
I think we're about to find out.
Latest news is, both ends of the ship are stuck hard, the bow is under stress so some of the cargo will have to come off via helicopter and placed in the desert.
If there's any people children in those containers, the whole world is about to be outraged.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 27, 2021, 10:48:18 PM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/26/08/40967448-9405423-image-m-21_1616747536579.jpg)

I've seen those vacuum type dredgers in action off OBX (Outer Banks, NC), that's exactly what you need... on the other end.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 27, 2021, 11:04:34 PM
About 20yrs from now, the Pilot of that ship (if still alive), will be bouncing his grandkid on his knee, "Grandpa, tell me again, how you blocked the Suez Canal!"
Well... lucky for me, there was a slight breeze that day...  We were partying it up on the bridge, and Hussain started passing out, grabbing anything he could, and spun the frigging wheel hard right...  Before we could finish beating him, alas, as Allah wills... the ship was stuck fast in the bank.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2021, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 27, 2021, 10:48:18 PM
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/26/08/40967448-9405423-image-m-21_1616747536579.jpg)

I've seen those vacuum type dredgers in action off OBX (Outer Banks, NC), that's exactly what you need... on the other end.
I read that NY Slimes article yesterday, and wonder why they're calling it the Ever Given, when it clearly states Evergreen on the ship?
Nah, never mind, it's the commie rag Slimes, they want to hide something.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 27, 2021, 11:19:01 PM
If I was a betting man.... I'd put money on the hull is compromised, cracked or punctured - or WILL BE during the removal process.

This is gonna take months.
Just waiting to hear/see the boat capsizes.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 12:57:39 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 27, 2021, 11:19:01 PM
If I was a betting man.... I'd put money on the hull is compromised, cracked or punctured - or WILL BE during the removal process.

This is gonna take months.
Just waiting to hear/see the boat capsizes.
That's the thing, they can't move this till its unloaded, otherwise it will capsize or in the least, sink from structural damage. These things weren't designed for this, like a beached whale, its sheer mass crushes its internal organs.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 01:10:40 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/033/832/original/0fdafcfe6963d988.jpeg)
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 28, 2021, 01:13:19 AM
Gawd..... that is an ugly thing.  Everytime I see that a picture of that "thing" I wonder if there was a sex change, or the Doctor took one look at the baby and slapped the mother.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: esbad63 on March 28, 2021, 02:49:23 AM
Let's open all of the containers on a live internet stream world wide and see what happens!

Meanwhile, pirates along the Cape of Good Hope are celebrating Christmas during Easter week. The Cape of Good Hope is where 95% of the worlds pirates set sail to plunder cargo ships. The world had better send a massive fleet of patrol boats to the Cape or this is going to go south real quick.

Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 28, 2021, 03:20:02 AM
Having trouble finding any current updates on this thing, although one of them *suggested* water is flooding into the forward holds - if I heard that right, the hull has already been compromised!

One of the other broadcasts said they have pumped 9,000 tons of water (!????) out of the ballast in an effort to float it, but.... isn't ballast needed on these tall container ships to keep them from tipping over?

Another newscaster said there were 5 Egyptian "Pilots" on board to guide it through the canal...?

Don't these big ships have bow thrusters to aid in steering?

Maybe someone with a little more knowledge has some answers, but, the media sources are basically repeating what they don't know, adding to the confusion.
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"Excavators dug Sunday on the eastern wall of the Suez Canal, hoping to free the bulbous bow of the Ever Given that plowed into the embankment, satellite photos showed.

Workers planned to make two attempts Sunday to free the vessel coinciding with high tides helped by a full moon Sunday night, a top pilot with the canal authority said. The full moon offers a spring tide, or king tide, in which high tides are higher and the low tides are lower because of the effects of gravity during a straight-line alignment of the Earth, the moon and the sun.

"Sunday is very critical," the pilot said. "It will determine the next step, which highly likely involves at least the partial offloading of the vessel."
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-03-28/2-tugboats-speed-to-egypts-suez-canal-as-shippers-avoid-it
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 03:24:23 AM
Quote from: esbad63 on March 28, 2021, 02:49:23 AM
Let's open all of the containers on a live internet stream world wide and see what happens!

Meanwhile, pirates along the Cape of Good Hope are celebrating Christmas during Easter week. The Cape of Good Hope is where 95% of the worlds pirates set sail to plunder cargo ships. The world had better send a massive fleet of patrol boats to the Cape or this is going to go south real quick.
Excellent Point!
And you are spot on about piracy, shit is about to hit the fan.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 28, 2021, 03:46:02 AM
So far, this is the most anyone has had on it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/suez-canal-containers-could-be-taken-ever-given-officials-say-n1262271
"BSM, the ship's manager, said Saturday Ever Given, which was en route to the Netherlands, had two canal pilots on board at the time of the incident. The ship's 25 crew members, all Indian nationals, are safe and remain on board, the company said.

It said the initial investigation suggests that the vessel ran aground due to strong wind, not engine failure, and there have been no reports of pollution or cargo damage.

However, Rabie said Saturday that an investigation was ongoing and he did not rule out human or technical error."
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"...two canal pilots on board at the time of the incident."
I *thought* the canal pilots would take control of the vessel.  I also assumed they would be very experienced in weather conditions, WIND, etc., so something like this would be pretty common place for them.... apparently not!

I guess... the canal folks weren't thinking something like this would *ever* happen, so ill prepared they seem.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: American Exceptionalism on March 28, 2021, 03:53:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 01:10:40 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/033/832/original/0fdafcfe6963d988.jpeg)

"She is the founder of Evergreen Consulting, a senior advisor to WestExec Advisors, an advisor to Demand Justice and an on air commentator and opinion writer for CNN."

https://supremecourtvoter.org/about/advisory-board/jen-psaki/

The secretive consulting firm that's become Biden's Cabinet in waiting
WestExec Advisors, which now looks like a government-in-waiting for the next administration, was founded in 2017.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/23/westexec-advisors-biden-cabinet-440072
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 05:31:41 AM
Hopes of re-floating the stranded 20,388TEU Ever Given following this weekend increased when salvage teams using Suez Canal tugs reportedly succeeded in freeing the stern and rudder section of the vessel.

Salvage teams from the Suez Canal Authority (SCA) have said that they have successfully moved the bow of the stricken ship five metres as the tide rises, but the best chance for removing the vessel will come later today as more powerful tugs arrive and the high tide aids the recovery.

https://container-news.com/salvors-free-stern-of-ever-given/

Update to EVER GIVEN's status in the Suez Canal
28th March 2021
Having removed more than 20,000 tons of sand and mud, the
dredging operation underway has succeeded in loosening the EVER
GIVEN's bow within the bank of the Suez Canal and the ship's stern
has been cleared from the sand bank. The rudder and propeller of the
vessel are fully functional and expected to provide additional support
to tugboats assigned to move the container ship from the accident site
so that normal transit may again resume within the canal.

The rescue team is continuing the dredging efforts and will
resume attempts to refloat the vessel at 14:00 local time in Egypt
(20:00 Taipei time).

https://www.evergreen-marine.com/tuf1/jsp/TUF1_News.jsp?newsType=G2&newsId=NEWS2021032800007982&lang=en
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: walkstall on March 28, 2021, 06:38:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 05:31:41 AM
Hopes of re-floating the stranded 20,388TEU Ever Given following this weekend increased when salvage teams using Suez Canal tugs reportedly succeeded in freeing the stern and rudder section of the vessel.

Salvage teams from the Suez Canal Authority (SCA) have said that they have successfully moved the bow of the stricken ship five metres as the tide rises, but the best chance for removing the vessel will come later today as more powerful tugs arrive and the high tide aids the recovery.

https://container-news.com/salvors-free-stern-of-ever-given/

Update to EVER GIVEN's status in the Suez Canal
28th March 2021
Having removed more than 20,000 tons of sand and mud, the
dredging operation underway has succeeded in loosening the EVER
GIVEN's bow within the bank of the Suez Canal and the ship's stern
has been cleared from the sand bank. The rudder and propeller of the
vessel are fully functional and expected to provide additional support
to tugboats assigned to move the container ship from the accident site
so that normal transit may again resume within the canal.

The rescue team is continuing the dredging efforts and will
resume attempts to refloat the vessel at 14:00 local time in Egypt
(20:00 Taipei time).

https://www.evergreen-marine.com/tuf1/jsp/TUF1_News.jsp?newsType=G2&newsId=NEWS2021032800007982&lang=en


I would think that if the wind did it.  There would have been one hell of a storm  in that area.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 28, 2021, 06:38:11 AM

I would think that if the wind did it.  There would have been one hell of a storm  in that area.
Witnesses, locals, security guards, all said that it wasn't all that windy, that they've seen much worse and it never effects these ships.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2021, 12:05:51 AM
(https://container-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Ever-Given-refloated-29-March-2021.jpg)

Earlier reports that the Ever Given has been fully re-floated appear to have been a little premature as shipmanager Bernard Schulte Shipmanagment (BSM) confirms that while progress has been made the vessel is not fully afloat.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Bluepig on March 29, 2021, 12:09:55 AM
I love the note to the excavator to dig on the other side of the ship. I suspect they had a dredger on the other side, as well as a barge mounted excavator. But that does not show as well for the sensationalists as a land based Trackhoe.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: winterset on March 29, 2021, 02:38:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 09:09:41 AM
Witnesses, locals, security guards, all said that it wasn't all that windy, that they've seen much worse and it never effects these ships.

These ships are very tall; catch the wind easily. And they like super tankers are horribly under powered; and have terrible maneuverability.

The best guess on what happened is that the pilots who were supposedly in charge got careless or stupid.  By the time they realized something was going wrong it was too late to stop it happening.

So anyone claiming that even a moderate wind would have no effect is either ignorant or a liar 
 
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2021, 02:54:23 AM
Quote from: winterset on March 29, 2021, 02:38:01 AM
These ships are very tall; catch the wind easily. And they like super tankers are horribly under powered; and have terrible maneuverability.

The best guess on what happened is that the pilots who were supposedly in charge got careless or stupid.  By the time they realized something was going wrong it was too late to stop it happening.

So anyone claiming that even a moderate wind would have no effect is either ignorant or a liar 

Did you watch the video of the satellite feed of their course?
That wasn't due to wind...
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 29, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
Quote from: winterset on March 29, 2021, 02:38:01 AM
These ships are very tall; catch the wind easily. And they like super tankers are horribly under powered; and have terrible maneuverability.

The best guess on what happened is that the pilots who were supposedly in charge got careless or stupid.  By the time they realized something was going wrong it was too late to stop it happening.

So anyone claiming that even a moderate wind would have no effect is either ignorant or a liar 


Quite a sweeping statement - ignorant or a liar - is that assuming no ships pass through that canal unless it's 100% calm, since a moderate wind (whatever that is), would have a profound effect on any ship movement...?  I've been boating for 40yrs, on inland lakes and the big pond - waves are the biggest threat, not the wind.

Running it around, in a canal that sees daily use ... meh.... as Solar suggested as a possibility... yeah, maybe someone wanted to find out how prepared the Canal Authority was for such an event.  Even it wasn't "planned" - I'd put money on it, certain political groups & terrorists have been watching this very closely.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: supsalemgr on March 29, 2021, 04:59:04 AM
Quote from: esbad63 on March 29, 2021, 04:43:05 AM
Considering that.....

#1. Our current government is widely suspected of rigging an election. Regardless of what you actually believe, a significant % of the population (possibly the majority) remain convinced the election was stolen.

#2. Our current government is allowing potentially a million or more illegal immigrants to enter the USA while currently providing the first 100,000 free room and board in HOTELS along with $1400 checks.

#3. Point #2 is being flaunted in spite of the Covid plandemic that was only important for a single reason (to remove Trump and institute a new world order). This all proved the Dims only care about themselves (votes and power) while WE THE PEOPLE are put LAST every time.

Considering all of that (plus a thousand other things I could write on) why would anyone put complete TRUST in anything our government is telling us about ANYTHING?

What is the connection for the post with the thread subject?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2021, 09:59:33 AM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1376539373206962178
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 29, 2021, 11:24:47 PM
waiting... waiting... waiting...

a.  For the ship to finally make it to the destination, slowly sinking from damage, or just breaks up from stress damage.

b.  Two Canal Pilots tried and convicted for "something" ... but, were flogged and confessions beaten out of them ... or just found dead of lead poisoning...?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: je_freedom on March 30, 2021, 06:48:44 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2021, 11:07:03 PM
I read that NY Slimes article yesterday, and wonder why they're calling it the Ever Given, when it clearly states Evergreen on the ship?
Nah, never mind, it's the commie rag Slimes, they want to hide something.

Ever Given is the name of the ship.
Evergreen is the name of the company that owns the ship.
(Actually, a pretty large fleet of ships.)
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: je_freedom on March 30, 2021, 07:11:00 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 29, 2021, 04:59:04 AM
What is the connection for the post with the thread subject?

Looks to me like  esbad63  was making the point that,
because of the examples he cited,
he doesn't believe ANYTHING the establishment mouthpieces say about ANY subject, including ships.

Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2021, 07:22:23 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on March 30, 2021, 06:48:44 AM
Ever Given is the name of the ship.
Evergreen is the name of the company that owns the ship.
(Actually, a pretty large fleet of ships.)
Yeah, saw that yesterday, it has a sister ship called (I think) Ever Global, or something like that.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 07:28:22 AM
For awhile there, I thought renaming it might be appropiate.

a.  "Ever Stuck"
b.  "almost sunk"
c.  "Never again"

Waiting to hear what kind of $$$ is gonna get paid out, and for the insurance settlements - if it's ever released to the public.  Sadly, those costs are just passed on to the consumers.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2021, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 07:28:22 AM
For awhile there, I thought renaming it might be appropiate.

a.  "Ever Stuck"
b.  "almost sunk"
c.  "Never again"

Waiting to hear what kind of $$$ is gonna get paid out, and for the insurance settlements - if it's ever released to the public.  Sadly, those costs are just passed on to the consumers.
Ever Anchor...
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: winterset on March 30, 2021, 08:01:10 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 29, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
Quite a sweeping statement - ignorant or a liar - is that assuming no ships pass through that canal unless it's 100% calm, since a moderate wind (whatever that is), would have a profound effect on any ship movement...?  I've been boating for 40yrs, on inland lakes and the big pond - waves are the biggest threat, not the wind.

Running it around, in a canal that sees daily use ... meh.... as Solar suggested as a possibility... yeah, maybe someone wanted to find out how prepared the Canal Authority was for such an event.  Even it wasn't "planned" - I'd put money on it, certain political groups & terrorists have been watching this very closely.

so because you have a boat 30 feet log you know how a ship 1200 feet long and over 200 feet high with its container handles?
Talk about arrogant.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: winterset on March 30, 2021, 08:04:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2021, 02:54:23 AM
Did you watch the video of the satellite feed of their course?
That wasn't due to wind...

Wow love how you think you know everything from one video with no other knowledge.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: winterset on March 30, 2021, 08:01:10 AM
so because you have a boat 30 feet log you know how a ship 1200 feet long and over 200 feet high with its container handles?
Talk about arrogant.
So... you just came here to run your mouth, or actually be engaging in a meaningful conversation?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2021, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: winterset on March 30, 2021, 08:04:09 AM
Wow love how you think you know everything from one video with no other knowledge.
So you didn't watch the Official Tracking video I see.
As witnesses have stated, the wind was not that strong, didn't effect any of the other ships on the canal, and I'm the one refusing to gather knowledge?

Do you have any clue of the billions of dollars involved here? If you wanted to takeover another company that was already struggling, what better way to put pressure on them, and that's just one of the theories floating around the container shipping industry.

Or maybe it had to do with rates? Point is, Always Follow The money!
https://container-news.com/cma-cgm-and-hapag-lloyd-increase-charges-in-north-europe-and-mediterranean/
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Bluepig on March 30, 2021, 01:35:19 PM
Ever Cockeyed?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: Bluepig on March 30, 2021, 01:35:19 PM
Ever Cockeyed?
Ever Clear (as in grain alcohol)

If they have ship board cameras & recording devices ... I'd sure like to see the last hour, right up to getting stuck.  It's quite an even to watch a wreck in slow motion.  Wifey and I had a front row seat to a 65 footer house boat hitting a dock with 2 ft diameter poles - they were literally exploding as the boat crunched into them at 1 mph.   "Creeeek... boom! crunch, creeeek... kaboom!"  Wood splinters everywhere.  The captain was drunk, kept saying, "I got this..! shut up, I got this!"
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target Chi-Fil-Lay
Post by: Hoofer on March 31, 2021, 10:36:12 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/blockage-cleared-ships-moving-at-record-speed-as-chick-fil-a-workers-put-in-charge-of-suez-canal
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-8279-1.jpg)

"EGYPT—When massive shipping container vessel the Ever Given got stuck, authorities had no idea how they were going to free it and get traffic moving through the Suez Canal again. But then one of them had a great idea: he called a Chick-fil-A location in America to ask if they'd loan them a few drive-thru workers.

"Sure, it'd be our pleasure," said the manager of the Chick-fil-A as he motioned for his drive-thru workers to get a move on. The employees sprinted to the airport and jumped on the next plane bound for Egypt. When they arrived, they rushed to tame some wild camels and took them across the desert to the location of the blockage.

"Hi! How can we help you today?" said Kyle Barton, drive-thru manager, as he arrived. "Oh, golly gee! It looks like ya got stuck there! We're on it!" The Chick-fil-A workers got to work, humming praise songs as they went, and got the ship unstuck in no time. Then, they worked with Suez Canal authorities to streamline the process of moving ships through the canal, identifying hundreds of inefficiencies and ways to improve the customer experience of shipping containers through the important trade route.

Now, according to sources, every ship captain and crew member will receive a complimentary chicken sandwich, large waffle fry, and frozen lemonade at the end of the journey."

:woot:
Title: Re: Egypt impounds Ever Given ship
Post by: Hoofer on April 13, 2021, 09:31:44 AM
A modest sum
Egypt Impounds Ever Given Ship Stuck In Suez Canal, Demands $900 Million For Traffic Jam
https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/13/egypt-ever-given-suez-canal-compensation/ (https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/13/egypt-ever-given-suez-canal-compensation/)
"Egypt's Suez Canal Authority (SCA) announced Tuesday that the Ever Given, a cargo ship that wedged itself in the canal late March, had been impounded pending $900 million in compensation.

The figure covers the costs of dislodging and maintaining the ship, along with the losses Egypt bore as a result of the six-day blockage, chairman of the SCA Osama Rabie told local outlet Al-Ahram.

The Panama-flagged cargo ship is owned by a Japanese firm Shoei Kisen. It got stuck Mar. 23 while carrying cargo worth more than $3.5 billion, the report says. "


Chump change... $900 million is getting off cheap.
Title: Re: Egypt impounds Ever Given ship
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2021, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 13, 2021, 09:31:44 AM
A modest sum
Egypt Impounds Ever Given Ship Stuck In Suez Canal, Demands $900 Million For Traffic Jam
https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/13/egypt-ever-given-suez-canal-compensation/ (https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/13/egypt-ever-given-suez-canal-compensation/)
"Egypt's Suez Canal Authority (SCA) announced Tuesday that the Ever Given, a cargo ship that wedged itself in the canal late March, had been impounded pending $900 million in compensation.

The figure covers the costs of dislodging and maintaining the ship, along with the losses Egypt bore as a result of the six-day blockage, chairman of the SCA Osama Rabie told local outlet Al-Ahram.

The Panama-flagged cargo ship is owned by a Japanese firm Shoei Kisen. It got stuck Mar. 23 while carrying cargo worth more than $3.5 billion, the report says. "


Chump change... $900 million is getting off cheap.
At first it was a solid billion, now they knocked it down 10%. :biggrin:

Now that most of the contents have either spoiled or the buyers ordered replacements thanks to insurance, it would appear Evergiven is threatening to unload the ship in the Saudis hands as a loss and let insurance cover the loss.

What a headache...
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 13, 2021, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: winterset on March 30, 2021, 08:01:10 AM
so because you have a boat 30 feet log you know how a ship 1200 feet long and over 200 feet high with its container handles?
Talk about arrogant.

Oh so I suppose you know how such a vessel handles....enlighten us please.

No chance this was a deliberate act I suppose.....nahhhh couldnt be
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: supsalemgr on April 13, 2021, 09:47:57 PM
I don't know the SOP are for the Suez Canal. That being said I would expect the Egyptian government require an Egyptian pilot for vessels in the canal. Then who would be responsible?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on April 13, 2021, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 13, 2021, 09:47:57 PM
I don't know the SOP are for the Suez Canal. That being said I would expect the Egyptian government require an Egyptian pilot for vessels in the canal. Then who would be responsible?
News articles are all over the place on it, nobody wants to admit to anything.
One didn't mention any, another said 5 Canal pilots, the most recent said 2 Canal pilots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/29/suez-canal-pilots/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/29/suez-canal-pilots/)
"A high-ranking canal pilot working for the Suez Canal Authority said the two pilots aboard the Ever Given were both senior chief pilots with 30-plus years of experience. "They had the experience and qualifications to guide this ship," he said.

The senior pilot said the job of navigating ships through canals had become more taxing in recent years. The vessels today are much larger and carry more cargo than those traversing the canal in the 1990s. Back then, he recalled, an oil tanker had blocked the canal and a single tugboat towed the vessel and cleared the waterway.

"The ships today are bigger than they used to be," the pilot said. "This is something new. We haven't seen this before."

Strong winds, he said, could have easily propelled the Ever Given toward the bank, leaving the canal blocked. "This is something that happens to massive ships of this kind," said the senior pilot, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment to the media. "They can run aground when winds exceed 30 or 40 knots."


Either someone's gonna be beaten till they fall on the sword, or they better prove there was a HUGE gust of wind to get them off the hook.

"He noted that canal pilots have guided the Ever Given through the canal before. "The ship has crossed the Suez Canal previous times but never under such weather conditions," he said."

-snip-

"Contrary to their titles, the pilots do not actually steer the vessel in the Suez Canal. The pilot serves more as a consultant, using his experience and practical knowledge of the canal to give advice, for instance on how to maneuver the vessel or what course to steer.

The captain has to be present at all times on the bridge and give the orders to the helm, to the engines and tugs, taking into account the pilot's directions, according to international maritime law. The captain has to keep the pilot informed of any problems with the handling of the vessel "so that the pilot might be in a position to give better advice to control the navigation and movement of the vessel," the law reads. Ultimately, "the responsibility falls completely" on the captain, it adds.

"The captain has the sole responsibility for directing the ship," the senior pilot said. "The pilots can offer their guidance and opinions, but the captain can choose to refuse it."

Among some seafarers, the role of the pilots can be somewhat mysterious."


It's CYA time!!!
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2021, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 13, 2021, 10:06:21 PM
News articles are all over the place on it, nobody wants to admit to anything.
One didn't mention any, another said 5 Canal pilots, the most recent said 2 Canal pilots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/29/suez-canal-pilots/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/29/suez-canal-pilots/)
"A high-ranking canal pilot working for the Suez Canal Authority said the two pilots aboard the Ever Given were both senior chief pilots with 30-plus years of experience. "They had the experience and qualifications to guide this ship," he said.

The senior pilot said the job of navigating ships through canals had become more taxing in recent years. The vessels today are much larger and carry more cargo than those traversing the canal in the 1990s. Back then, he recalled, an oil tanker had blocked the canal and a single tugboat towed the vessel and cleared the waterway.

"The ships today are bigger than they used to be," the pilot said. "This is something new. We haven't seen this before."

Strong winds, he said, could have easily propelled the Ever Given toward the bank, leaving the canal blocked. "This is something that happens to massive ships of this kind," said the senior pilot, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment to the media. "They can run aground when winds exceed 30 or 40 knots."


Either someone's gonna be beaten till they fall on the sword, or they better prove there was a HUGE gust of wind to get them off the hook.

"He noted that canal pilots have guided the Ever Given through the canal before. "The ship has crossed the Suez Canal previous times but never under such weather conditions," he said."

-snip-

"Contrary to their titles, the pilots do not actually steer the vessel in the Suez Canal. The pilot serves more as a consultant, using his experience and practical knowledge of the canal to give advice, for instance on how to maneuver the vessel or what course to steer.

The captain has to be present at all times on the bridge and give the orders to the helm, to the engines and tugs, taking into account the pilot's directions, according to international maritime law. The captain has to keep the pilot informed of any problems with the handling of the vessel "so that the pilot might be in a position to give better advice to control the navigation and movement of the vessel," the law reads. Ultimately, "the responsibility falls completely" on the captain, it adds.

"The captain has the sole responsibility for directing the ship," the senior pilot said. "The pilots can offer their guidance and opinions, but the captain can choose to refuse it."

Among some seafarers, the role of the pilots can be somewhat mysterious."


It's CYA time!!!
I think I'll get a job as an "Anonymous Source", it seems to pay well. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Possum on April 13, 2021, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2021, 11:07:00 PM
I think I'll get a job as an "Anonymous Source", it seems to pay well. :biggrin:
It's well quoted!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2021, 11:46:22 PM
Taiwanese sources say that Evergreen, the charterer of the Japanese-owned Ever Given which ran aground in the Suez Canal on 23 March, is seeking to separate the cargo interests from the vessel owning interests, following the impounding of the ship by an Ismailia court.

If Evergreen's move proves successful the cargo could be offloaded and delivered to consignees, according to the source.

An Evergreen statement read, "In accordance with information from UK P&I Club, the protection and indemnity insurer for the vessel [Ever Given], the shipowners received a claim from Suez Canal Authority ("SCA") for the sum of US$916 million on 7 April, 2021, to cover losses during Ever Given's grounding in the Suez Canal."

According to Evergreen the amount includes a US$300 million claim for a salvage bonus and a US$300 million claim for loss of reputation.

https://container-news.com/evergreen-seeks-to-free-cargo-as-sca-impounds-ever-given/
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2021, 11:07:00 PM
I think I'll get a job as an "Anonymous Source", it seems to pay well. :biggrin:
and they get to say all kinds of CRAP without ever being called on the carpet for LYING.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2021, 01:49:01 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 12:57:03 AM
and they get to say all kinds of CRAP without ever being called on the carpet for LYING.
:biggrin:
That's the beauty of it all. The NY Slimes learned long ago, that paying for the lies, was well, stupid, especially when they can save thousands by writing their own. :lol:

E.G.: NY Slimes: "Biden caught in bed with a toddler", anonymous sources tell us....

Didn't cost me a dime... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 01:54:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2021, 01:49:01 AM
:biggrin:
That's the beauty of it all. The NY Slimes learned long ago, that paying for the lies, was well, stupid, especially when they can save thousands by writing their own. :lol:

E.G.: NY Slimes: "Biden caught in bed with a toddler", anonymous sources tell us....

Didn't cost me a dime... :biggrin:

Now that we know what a SNAKE Mittens is ... should we *thank* Harry Reid for torpedoing his Presidential run with his, "I hear he doesn't pay his taxes" rumor?
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2021, 03:42:39 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 01:54:16 AM
Now that we know what a SNAKE Mittens is ... should we *thank* Harry Reid for torpedoing his Presidential run with his, "I hear he doesn't pay his taxes" rumor?
Yep, Obozo was horrible, but every RINO that slips in, just does the bidding of the Marxists and we sit silently by, biding our time.
At least Joe has exposed the left for what they are.
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: je_freedom on April 14, 2021, 07:11:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2021, 11:46:22 PM
If Evergreen's move proves successful the cargo could be offloaded and delivered to consignees, according to the source.

Look for some big sales at Big Lots!

https://local.biglots.com/
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2021, 07:48:11 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on April 14, 2021, 07:11:15 AM
Look for some big sales at Big Lots!

https://local.biglots.com/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Every Ship Is A Target
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 07:29:31 AM
Accident, My Ass!
If these guys can pilot a ship through this, they can certainly stay within a 1000' wide canal. :rolleyes:


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