Ohhhh this is good. :biggrin:
QuoteLYNCHBURG, Virginia — In what was clearly meant to be an attack on Sen. Ted Cruz's presidential campaign, announced shortly after midnight, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) may have accidentally admitted that it's worried about a Cruz GOP presidential campaign—noting in an email to supporters that his announcement "sent shivers down" their spines.
"If you're like us, just reading that phrase probably sent shivers down your spine or produced a pretty serious roll of the eyes," the DNC said in what it calls a "Factivist" email to supporters early on Monday. "But as of this moment, Texas Senator Ted Cruz is officially running for president, and if we don't do everything in our power to stop him, the possibility of President Ted Cruz could become a reality."
Here are the talking points, and if this is the worst they can do, they're in big trouble. :biggrin:
Quote"He has obstructed everything from raising the minimum wage to paycheck fairness to immigration reform. He would give corporations and the richest Americans huge tax breaks, at the expense of working Americans."
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/democrats-on-cruz-presidential-campaign-announcement-sent-shivers-down-our-spine/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/democrats-on-cruz-presidential-campaign-announcement-sent-shivers-down-our-spine/)
No two ways about it. The Democrats are scared shitless! The reason is simple - with the exception of Scott Walker (who hasn't announced he's running, yet) Cruz has one thing that all of the other GOP hopefulls lack...
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-Just heard/saw the announcement-speech and it was amazing. Far exceeding everyone's expectations, I believe. Inspirational and stoic. Highlighted by a bold abolish the IRS declaration, which brought the house down. The NON-TELEPROMPTER speech lasted about 50-minutes, in a theater-in-the-round format so he addressed the audience directly in the eye whichever way he turned. Indescribably refreshing, to me.
He promised to repeal 'every single word of obamacare' and to banish the entire concept of commoncore, which also brought thunderous approvals from the crowd.
Exceptionally well-done, overall. I'm sure that Dems will react immaturely to it.
His leadership will be sorely missed in the Senate, but I think that is a small price to pay to have a man of his caliber in the White House!
:thumbup:
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 23, 2015, 08:45:40 AM
-Just heard/saw the announcement-speech and it was amazing. Far exceeding everyone's expectations, I believe. Inspirational and stoic. Highlighted by a bold abolish the IRS declaration, which brought the house down. The NON-TELEPROMPTER speech lasted about 50-minutes, in a theater-in-the-round format so he addressed the audience directly in the eye whichever way he turned. Indescribably refreshing, to me.
He promised to repeal 'every single word of obamacare' and to banish the entire concept of commoncore, which also brought thunderous approvals from the crowd.
Exceptionally well-done, overall. I'm sure that Dems will react immaturely to it.
You summed it up perfectly. And yes, the libs are in panic mode over this.
One of the issues that really seem too set them off is where he announced his WH run, and the fact that he's a Christian.
I have to ask, is this really that big an issue, and will it actually anger more of the country over the leftists reaction and vitriol towards Christianity?
I don't want to turn this into a discussion over religion, but I don't see this as a winning issue for the Dim party.
Quote from: Darth Fife on March 23, 2015, 07:43:31 AM
No two ways about it. The Democrats are scared shitless! The reason is simple - with the exception of Scott Walker (who hasn't announced he's running, yet) Cruz has one thing that all of the other GOP hopefulls lack...
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I don't know Dr. Carson has a spine. He didn't and won't back down on his views about gays. (which he's right about btw) :lol:
That said, you guys are right, the dimwits are scared shitless. Because those in power at the DNC know, that they know, they are in the minority, and in trouble, serious trouble with the voters in America. :woot: :thumbsup: :biggrin:
Why would the left be afraid of Cruz? He's at the opposite end of where they are. I would think he would be the one they would want Hillary to run against.
Quote from: Dori on March 23, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
Why would the left be afraid of Cruz? He's at the opposite end of where they are. I would think he would be the one they would want Hillary to run against.
They are scared because, unlike RINO's, they know conservatism wins.
Quote from: Dori on March 23, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
Why would the left be afraid of Cruz? He's at the opposite end of where they are. I would think he would be the one they would want Hillary to run against.
Think two bloody midterms where the Conservative base turned out and left the leftists in a bloody heap.
That's what the left is afraid of, the base rallying around Ted, theincluding rino establishment is worried as well, because as Rush pointed out, Cruz could force others to run further right, leaving rino like Bush left looking like an out of touch fool.
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2015, 11:14:24 AM
Think two bloody midterms where the Conservative base turned out and left the leftists in a bloody heap.
That's what the left is afraid of, the base rallying around Ted, theincluding rino establishment is worried as well, because as Rush pointed out, Cruz could force others to run further right, leaving rino like Bush left looking like an out of touch fool.
Another reason for the dems (hope you're reading this dems) to be somewhat anxious is the fact that Ted Cruz gets along famously with Bibi. I'm sure that Bibi would appreciate the common sense of Ted Cruz in supporting, actually standing by, our ally-Israel.
Well, the dems might have time to recuperate from this announcement but on it's heels will be another big announcement of or made by Scott Walker. My, my, are we having fun yet? :tounge:
Quote from: keyboarder on March 23, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
Another reason for the dems (hope you're reading this dems) to be somewhat anxious is the fact that Ted Cruz gets along famously with Bibi. I'm sure that Bibi would appreciate the common sense of Ted Cruz in supporting, actually standing by, our ally-Israel.
Well, the dems might have time to recuperate from this announcement but on it's heels will be another big announcement of or made by Scott Walker. My, my, are we having fun yet? :tounge:
I think BIBI will find support from any conservative running. One big question will be the Jewish vote in 2016! Have they had enough of the Dim's And could a Jewish crossover offset the democrat push for Hispanic votes? :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: redbeard on March 23, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
I think BIBI will find support from any conservative running. One big question will be the Jewish vote in 2016! Have they had enough of the Dim's And could a Jewish crossover offset the democrat push for Hispanic votes? :popcorn: :popcorn:
I guess Ted will just have to speak directly to them in Spanish.
Quote from: taxed on March 23, 2015, 01:42:43 PM
I guess Ted will just have to speak directly to them in Spanish.
Which he did in his very first ad. But you knew that, didn't ya? :wink: :biggrin:
Mr.Cruz welcome aboard. I look ffor to seeing you in the White House.
The funny part of this whole Cruz running for president is watch the liberal "birthers" come out of tghe woodwork.
Quote from: Bronx on March 23, 2015, 01:59:44 PM
Mr.Cruz welcome aboard. I look ffor to seeing you in the White House.
The funny part of this whole Cruz running for president is watch the liberal "birthers" come out of tghe woodwork.
"Birthers" will make some noise. Cruz will quickly set the record straight, but the distraction will continue. It will have no impact during the primaries.
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2015, 01:54:54 PM
Which he did in his very first ad. But you knew that, didn't ya? :wink: :biggrin:
Ha, actually, no! Where?
Quote from: Dori on March 23, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
Why would the left be afraid of Cruz? He's at the opposite end of where they are. I would think he would be the one they would want Hillary to run against.
The only way the Democrats can win is if the Republicans run a "Democrat Lite"; someone who pretty much agrees with the Democrat agenda, concedes most of their talking points but wants to put a GOP "spin" on it.
Given a choice between a "True" Democrat and a Republican pretending to be a Democrat, the American voter will go for the Real McCoy every time. Not so much because the believe in the Democrat Platform, but because the can see that the Republican is an obvious phoney!
That is what happened in our last two presidential elections. (I might even go so far as to say the last 4 presidential elections - 2000 should have never been that close and the only reason Bush won in 2004 was due to 9/11 and the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.)
This time, if all goes well, Americans will have a real choice and I think we will all be pleasantly surprised with the choice they (we!) make!
Quote from: taxed on March 23, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
Ha, actually, no! Where?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-for-president-spanish-ad-highlights-immigrant-roots-family/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-for-president-spanish-ad-highlights-immigrant-roots-family/)
They are scared of Cruz because he will not act like Mittens Romney in any debate....Ted will call 'em out, get in their face and make them implode....I'd love to see him tear Hillary apart...she'd have a melt down live in front of billions of people who would see what a sick twisted lying rat she really is. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-for-president-spanish-ad-highlights-immigrant-roots-family/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-for-president-spanish-ad-highlights-immigrant-roots-family/)
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 23, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
They are scared of Cruz because he will not act like Mittens Romney in any debate....Ted will call 'em out, get in their face and make them implode....I'd love to see him tear Hillary apart...she'd have a melt down live in front of billions of people who would see what a sick twisted lying rat she really is. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Uh, if they can't now they're blind as a bat.
We had muscums attack, and overrun an American embassy. Which is, per international law not only an attack upon the sovereign territory of the United States, but is also an act of war. Who then murdered American Citizen's there. Which is bad enough by itself, but these citizen's also happened to be an American Ambassador, and two former navy seals who went/were sent (we don't know) there to protect that Ambassador, that Citizen of the United States.
On HER watch, and to date lets see what she did.
Lied, right along with this President, to the American people, claiming this was all incited by a video that had recently been released on YouTube. (which I believe was an attack on YouTube because they allow anti-obammy video's to be posted, despite their request to YouTube that they not allow that, but I digress into a free speech issue there and a diff topic)
Then when questioned by Congress about this (what we now know to be a lie as the video had actually been released a year prior not just then as both Shillary and The Obammy claimed) she tried to obfuscate. And weasel her way out of any responsibility at all.
For this administrations decision, not to send those seals and that ambassador the help they were desperately calling for apparently.
Despite the fact that a Air Craft Carrier battle group was like seven miles away. Her carpet bagging/baggage and all the crap that went on the last time Shillary was in the White House (see attempted theft of White House Property which we the people actually own) Not withstanding that stuff.
After Benghazi and what happened there.
While she was secretary of state, should be all the reason one needs NOT to vote for her. When you look at the complete picture of shillary, you find a cold, thieving, evil bitch. One who is complicit in the murder of three American citizen's, one of whom was an ambassador.
A woman who deserves not our votes, but our scorn, derision, disapproval, and disdain. Shillary is clearly a woman who should be voted down/against. A woman who we the people, shouldn't allow to hold any office within our government ever again.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 23, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
They are scared of Cruz because he will not act like Mittens Romney in any debate....Ted will call 'em out, get in their face and make them implode....I'd love to see him tear Hillary apart...she'd have a melt down live in front of billions of people who would see what a sick twisted lying rat she really is. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
I had not given a debate between Hillary and Cruz much thought, but is sounds delicious. She is a sham and with his intellect and debate skills she would be mince meat. And then the "war on women" screams would be unbelievable.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 05:03:50 AM
I had not given a debate between Hillary and Cruz much thought, but is sounds delicious. She is a sham and with his intellect and debate skills she would be mince meat. And then the "war on women" screams would be unbelievable.
That sums up the entire race on the left.
The Dims know Hitlery doesn't have a prayer unless a soft spoken Bush, willingly plays PC during debates, otherwise a Ted Cruz missile is inevitably going to strike the Dim party and sink it. (see that play on words? clever, eh?) :rolleyes: :biggrin: "sarc"
But seriously, the left is counting on a rino to use kid gloves in a campaign debate, and we know just how well that works out every four years.
A Ted Cruz terrifies the Hell out of the leftists, because he can articulately paint a picture of a Marxist party out to destroy our very way of life, while a rino shares the same concepts and would never expose the truth, a truth they share..
Just realized three other casualties of the Cruz announcement.
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Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
Just realized three other casualties of the Cruz announcement.
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And that is fine. Santorum has no wide appeal, Huckabee is a closet RINO and Carson just doesn't have the political moxie to be an effective candidate.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
And that is fine. Santorum has no wide appeal, Huckabee is a closet RINO and Carson just doesn't have the political moxie to be an effective candidate.
I also believe Carson to be a GOP plant as a way of watering down the Conservative vote.
Glad to see all three take a shit.
I wonder if TEA could get all the Drive In Diner's throughout America to sponsor "CRUZ NIGHTS" (instead of "Cruise Nights") Now, that's a CHANGE I could BELIEVE in; I sure HOPE they will get behind it! :rolleyes: :cool: You know; to celebrate..Global Warming (after this long, harsh, winter) :cool:
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Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
I also believe Carson to be a GOP plant as a way of watering down the Conservative vote.
Glad to see all three take a shit.
Carson is too naïve for politics. He might be a good Surgeon General or something similar. The other two are a waste of time.
I agree with you (and respectfully, have to disagree with my friend, Solar). Ben Carson is a good man and has an incredible story of accomplishment and achievement! Solar may be reacting to the fact that so many insiders have gotten behind him that he thinks Carson has been manufactured by them. He's not. Ben Carson is the genuine article, just like Sarah Palin is! Unfortunately, Carson has proven that he doesn't have the political savy necessary to win; it's just not his forte! Sarah Palin, on the other hand...did (and still does) that is why the media and the rest of the Democrats have so badly slimed her that they have poisoned the well with the otherwise uninformed voters. Sarah has therefore made herself a valuable booster, rather than the standard bearer. I hope Dr. Carson will do the same and help our nominee defeat the Communist Insurgants!
Quote from: wally on March 24, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
I agree with you (and respectfully, have to disagree with my friend, Solar). Ben Carson is a good man and has an incredible story of accomplishment and achievement! Solar may be reacting to the fact that so many insiders have gotten behind him that he thinks Carson has been manufactured by them. He's not. Ben Carson is the genuine article, just like Sarah Palin is! Unfortunately, Carson has proven that he doesn't have the political savy necessary to win; it's just not his forte! Sarah Palin, on the other hand...did (and still does) that is why the media and the rest of the Democrats have so badly slimed her that they have poisoned the well with the otherwise uninformed voters. Sarah has therefore made herself a valuable booster, rather than the standard bearer. I hope Dr. Carson will do the same and help our nominee defeat the Communist Insurgants!
Two reasons I don't back Carson. One, he doesn't understand the term "Core Values" as in understanding of the Bill of Rights.
The other, is the fact that it was the GOP that backed him speaking at WH prayer breakfasts over the years.
So what we have here is an unvetted by Conservatives, but vetted by the Establishment candidate.
Connect the dots, they will lead you back to the GOP.
Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Carson is too naïve for politics. He might be a good Surgeon General or something similar. The other two are a waste of time.
I agree, aside the fact he has zero experience where leading the most powerful nation on earth is concerned..
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 10:32:02 AM
Two reasons I don't back Carson. One, he doesn't understand the term "Core Values" as in understanding of the Bill of Rights.
The other, is the fact that it was the GOP that backed him speaking at WH prayer breakfasts over the years.
So what we have here is an unvetted by Conservatives, but vetted by the Establishment candidate.
Connect the dots, they will lead you back to the GOP.
I believe Ben Carson can be a valuable asset to the GOP nominee. He is articulate with a great story. His story can assist in further siphoning off votes from the Black community for the GOP. I can see him as a good secretary of HHS. Quite frankly I do not think he is tough enough to take on the democrats. We have tried that in the last two elections and we see what result that strategy brought us.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
I believe Ben Carson can be a valuable asset to the GOP nominee. He is articulate with a great story. His story can assist in further siphoning off votes from the Black community for the GOP. I can see him as a good secretary of HHS. Quite frankly I do not think he is tough enough to take on the democrats. We have tried that in the last two elections and we see what result that strategy brought us.
That is the reason I believe he is a GOP plant, he was chosen to split the ignorant side of the LIBertarian vote.
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
That is the reason I believe he is a GOP plant, he was chosen to split the ignorant side of the LIBertarian vote.
I don't think Carson will last long if he decides to run. I just don't believe the field will be as large as the pundits say. Santorum, Huckabee, Fiorina, et all can't raise the money. Paul will last a little while because the "kids" will support him for awhile. I am not sure Christie can raise the money with Bush in. That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.
I'd be willing to bet that Jeb will eventually slip on a banana-peel with something like:
" They say I'm not a true Conservative... and they're right. " 400 days is a long time for someone like him
not to have a 'hot-mike moment' in a Primary-race like this.
As for Walker and Cruz, I think whoever expresses the tougher, more traditional type of
foreign policy stances will separate the two. I look forward to see the Senator visit England. There'll be
gotcha-answers to any
gotcha-questions this time.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 24, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
I don't think Carson will last long if he decides to run. I just don't believe the field will be as large as the pundits say. Santorum, Huckabee, Fiorina, et all can't raise the money. Paul will last a little while because the "kids" will support him for awhile. I am not sure Christie can raise the money with Bush in. That leaves Bush, Walker and Cruz. That is somewhat alarming as I can see the conservative vote being split and here comes another well funded RINO.
Agree, but I see Rand making it to the debates, but against Cruz, he'll be eaten alive, as well as Bush.
Walker on the other hand, like Cruz has core values, so the answers will come quick and from the gut.
Carson will stay, to bleed off votes for Bush, the GOP will see that he stay in the race via monitory channels.
Granted we're a long way out, but I see Walker and Cruz in it till the end, assuming nothing tragic happens.
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 24, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
I'd be willing to bet that Jeb will eventually slip on a banana-peel with something like: " They say I'm not a true Conservative... and they're right. " 400 days is a long time for someone like him not to have a 'hot-mike moment' in a Primary-race like this.
As for Walker and Cruz, I think whoever expresses the tougher, more traditional type of foreign policy stances will separate the two. I look forward to see the Senator visit England. There'll be gotcha-answers to any gotcha-questions this time.
Yeah, he's bound to show the real rino within, if it's possible to show more than he has already.
But who is waiting in the wings when it becomes obvious he hasn't a proverbial snowflakes chance?
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:23:14 PM
Yeah, he's bound to show the real rino within, if it's possible to show more than he has already.
But who is waiting in the wings when it becomes obvious he hasn't a proverbial snowflakes chance?
For the RINO's? They'd be stuck with Christie and Perry. -But would probably drift to Walker.
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:18:34 PM
Agree, but I see Rand making it to the debates, but against Cruz, he'll be eaten alive, as well as Bush.
Walker on the other hand, like Cruz has core values, so the answers will come quick and from the gut.
Carson will stay, to bleed off votes for Bush, the GOP will see that he stay in the race via monitory channels.
Granted we're a long way out, but I see Walker and Cruz in it till the end, assuming nothing tragic happens.
I agree but I think Paul will last a bit longer than most think.
Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 03:36:15 PM
I agree but I think Paul will last a bit longer than most think.
Oh, I agree, he has Mc CONells support and backing.
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2015, 03:42:10 PM
Oh, I agree, he has Mc CONells support and backing.
That and I think unlike his dad he has more support than just the pothead young crowd. But Walker and Cruz are the main contenders right now. At least for me.
Quote from: Dubinsky on March 24, 2015, 04:14:29 PM
That and I think unlike his dad he has more support than just the pothead young crowd. But Walker and Cruz are the main contenders right now. At least for me.
Yeah, he seemed to try and play the middle early on, and I think it was bad advice by the rino.
I believe they saw him as an early threat and needed to corral him, so McCONell made some magical deal with him and Rand accepted.
He originally had solid TEA support, but that quickly faded when he befriended the enemy.
Sadly the rino win on this one, because Rand will siphon off some votes, just hopefully not many.