Quote from: Possum on May 27, 2023, 10:13:11 AMTrump backed 24 candidates for the senate, sixteen won. He backed 175 for the house, eleven lost. He split on governors 10 to 10, but three of the states he picked Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, had little chance to go conservative.

I would have to say you are just posting without any knowledge of what the facts are.

There are some states/districts where Trump support played really well.  Those are the red states/districts.  In swing/purple districts his candidates lost consistently.

Quote from: Possum on May 26, 2023, 04:28:54 PMGuess you're not keeping up with the little story about voter fraud. Pity.

So, try again, show one poll, article, showing Biden would win. While you're at it, explain how someone with a 35 voter approval can beat someone who is polling the best he has ever.   

To whatever degree there was legitimate voter fraud vs illegal voting rules changes, I don't believe the total of the two is anywhere close to the popular vote gap.

DeSantis Responds To Trump Insults With Bone Deep Cut: 'Juvenile' Conduct One Reason He's Not In White House Right Now
Caleb Howe

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was in New Hampshire on Thursday as part of the first week of his presidential campaign and slammed ex-president and chief rival for the GOP nomination Donald Trump over "juvenile" conduct that may have cost him the presidency.

DeSantis spoke with radio host Jack Heath on Thursday's Good Morning New Hampshire on WTSN, during which he discussed the FBI, China, Hunter Biden, and other campaign subjects — and of course Donald Trump.

Trump made fun of how the Florida governor's name is pronounced — a habit he's had for a while — which sites like Axios ran with. And Axios correspondent Alex Thompson flagged the New Hampshire interview on Twitter.

Heath asked about that hit and other insults Trump has leveled at DeSantis over the last few months leading up to the primary campaign.

"I think it's so petty. I think it's so juvenile. I don't think that's what voters want," said DeSantis. "And honestly, I think that that his conduct, which he's been doing for years now, I think that's one of the reasons he's not in the White House now."

HEATH: I want to talk about former President Donald Trump just for a moment. He's been – since you, since you were on my show last, you said pretty much, Governor DeSantis, that based on all the attacks he's making against you, it's clear that you're the one he's worried about here who can win this nomination. And he continues, Former President Trump yesterday was criticizing your name. He's nicknamed you, saying – he did a release yesterday, actually, commenting on, he was like fixated on your last name, whether it's Dah-Santis Dee-Santis, DeSanctis, he's, he keeps coming at you. What's your reaction to attacks like that, even on your name? Do you think that's sort of beneath the former president? Or do you, is that what you expect?

DESANTIS: I think it's so petty. I think it's so juvenile. I don't think that's what voters want. And honestly, I think that that his conduct, which he's been doing for years now, I think that's one of the reasons he's not in the White House now. Because I think he alienated too many voters for things that really don't matter. So I don't get in the gutter on any of that.


https://www.mediaite.com/radio/desantis-responds-to-trump-insults-with-bone-deep-cut-juvenile-conduct-one-reason-hes-not-in-white-house-right-now/?utm_source=mediaite_smartnews_redirect

Quote from: ZenMode on June 01, 2023, 03:22:24 PMTo whatever degree there was legitimate voter fraud vs illegal voting rules changes, I don't believe the total of the two is anywhere close to the popular vote gap.

And that just shot the hell out of your credibility as it tells us you have no proof. Why is it those with no proof to the legitimacy of the illegal voting rules change are so dead set against an investigation? 

Quote from: ZenMode on June 01, 2023, 03:23:09 PMDeSantis Responds To Trump Insults With Bone Deep Cut: 'Juvenile' Conduct One Reason He's Not In White House Right Now
Caleb Howe

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was in New Hampshire on Thursday as part of the first week of his presidential campaign and slammed ex-president and chief rival for the GOP nomination Donald Trump over "juvenile" conduct that may have cost him the presidency.

DeSantis spoke with radio host Jack Heath on Thursday's Good Morning New Hampshire on WTSN, during which he discussed the FBI, China, Hunter Biden, and other campaign subjects — and of course Donald Trump.

Trump made fun of how the Florida governor's name is pronounced — a habit he's had for a while — which sites like Axios ran with. And Axios correspondent Alex Thompson flagged the New Hampshire interview on Twitter.

Heath asked about that hit and other insults Trump has leveled at DeSantis over the last few months leading up to the primary campaign.

"I think it's so petty. I think it's so juvenile. I don't think that's what voters want," said DeSantis. "And honestly, I think that that his conduct, which he's been doing for years now, I think that's one of the reasons he's not in the White House now."

HEATH: I want to talk about former President Donald Trump just for a moment. He's been – since you, since you were on my show last, you said pretty much, Governor DeSantis, that based on all the attacks he's making against you, it's clear that you're the one he's worried about here who can win this nomination. And he continues, Former President Trump yesterday was criticizing your name. He's nicknamed you, saying – he did a release yesterday, actually, commenting on, he was like fixated on your last name, whether it's Dah-Santis Dee-Santis, DeSanctis, he's, he keeps coming at you. What's your reaction to attacks like that, even on your name? Do you think that's sort of beneath the former president? Or do you, is that what you expect?

DESANTIS: I think it's so petty. I think it's so juvenile. I don't think that's what voters want. And honestly, I think that that his conduct, which he's been doing for years now, I think that's one of the reasons he's not in the White House now. Because I think he alienated too many voters for things that really don't matter. So I don't get in the gutter on any of that.


https://www.mediaite.com/radio/desantis-responds-to-trump-insults-with-bone-deep-cut-juvenile-conduct-one-reason-hes-not-in-white-house-right-now/?utm_source=mediaite_smartnews_redirect

If you had been apart of this forum back in 2015 you would have seen I was dead set against Trump, partly for those reasons. What changed my opinion on him? the way he ran this nation. He is not perfect, but he was/is perfect for the job.

Quote from: Possum on June 01, 2023, 03:44:36 PMIf you had been apart of this forum back in 2015 you would have seen I was dead set against Trump, partly for those reasons. What changed my opinion on him? the way he ran this nation. He is not perfect, but he was/is perfect for the job.

Mediate.com?            

Call it what you like, but Trump's attacks, and they are, very, VERY effective. He knows DeSantis ego can't handle it and will crack at any given moment in public.
Watch, it will happen.

Quote from: Possum on June 01, 2023, 03:44:36 PMIf you had been apart of this forum back in 2015 you would have seen I was dead set against Trump, partly for those reasons. What changed my opinion on him? the way he ran this nation. He is not perfect, but he was/is perfect for the job.

sure. There is a segment of the population who are all in on Trump. But, in order to win the election, you have to be able to attract the center and undecided voters. I think a significant portion of them are very turned off by Trump and his behavior.

Quote from: ZenMode on June 01, 2023, 04:06:54 PMsure. There is a segment of the population who are all in on Trump. But, in order to win the election, you have to be able to attract the center and undecided voters. I think a significant portion of them are very turned off by Trump and his behavior.

Are you forgetting 1) he has won before, 2) he GAINED MORE votes for his second run, 3) he is out polling everyone else PUT TOGETHER. And THAT is what you call significant!

Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2023, 03:53:36 PMMediate.com?            

Call it what you like, but Trump's attacks, and they are, very, VERY effective. He knows DeSantis ego can't handle it and will crack at any given moment in public.
Watch, it will happen.

Yeah, it will. So many times people will play out an upcoming discussion in their head, to prepare remarks they will use. You can not prepare for Trump. He will be in control. He does not care what the other person will say because he will not give them a chance to say it. He will give them a train wreak between the ears.

Quote from: Possum on June 01, 2023, 05:15:03 PMAre you forgetting 1) he has won before, 2) he GAINED MORE votes for his second run, 3) he is out polling everyone else PUT TOGETHER. And THAT is what you call significant!

I'm looking at more recent results. The fact that he lost by millions of votes to a potted plant and the fact that his candidates, in non-deep red locations, lost to some embarrassing competition.

Quote from: ZenMode on June 01, 2023, 06:19:37 PMI'm looking at more recent results. The fact that he lost by millions of votes to a potted plant and the fact that his candidates, in non-deep red locations, lost to some embarrassing competition.

There are many places where NO republican can win. Just look at most of the major liberal hell holes.

Quote from: ZenMode on June 01, 2023, 06:19:37 PMI'm looking at more recent results. The fact that he lost by millions of votes to a potted plant and the fact that his candidates, in non-deep red locations, lost to some embarrassing competition.

Oh Good God, are you back to being delusional thinking 2020 was above board again?                

Quote from: Possum on June 02, 2023, 04:29:59 AMThere are many places where NO republican can win. Just look at most of the major liberal hell holes.

Right. There are many places where no Dem can win. Neither of those places is what I'm talking about.

Quote from: Possum on June 01, 2023, 05:50:46 PMYeah, it will. So many times people will play out an upcoming discussion in their head, to prepare remarks they will use. You can not prepare for Trump. He will be in control. He does not care what the other person will say because he will not give them a chance to say it. He will give them a train wreak between the ears.

Isn't that the truth! He'll eat that kid alive! Trump has amazing recall, while DeSantis will be prepped with talking points, Trump will seize the moment and derail the kids thought process and force him to divulge the truth.

I can't say enough "Age Vs Wisdom", the kid politician is going to get his ass handed to him.

Quote from: Solar on June 02, 2023, 05:15:02 AMOh Good God, are you back to being delusional thinking 2020 was above board again?                

Nope. What I said in post #31 is an accurate description of my opinion (with one word change):

"To whatever degree there was legitimate voter fraud (or) illegal voting rules changes, I don't believe the total of the two is anywhere close to the popular vote gap."