Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 03:53:00 PMDo they?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

LOL! 538?        

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 04:50:23 PMWhy would DeSantis benefit? My opinion of Trump has no impact on my opinion of anyone else in the world.

Try to follow along, you claimed the indictments were hurting Trump, someone should benefit in the polls from that if it is true. Should be DeSantis, but it is not showing up in the polls. Stands to reason, Trump is not losing support from the phony indictments.

Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2023, 06:07:39 PMTry to follow along, you claimed the indictments were hurting Trump, someone should benefit in the polls from that if it is true. Should be DeSantis, but it is not showing up in the polls. Stands to reason, Trump is not losing support from the phony indictments.

That's not true. My view of Trump is completely independent of my view of anyone else on the planet. My view of Trump can go up and down on any given day, and in absolutely no way does that impact my view of any other candidates or any other person.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 07:38:37 PMThat's not true. My view of Trump is completely independent of my view of anyone else on the planet. My view of Trump can go up and down on any given day, and in absolutely no way does that impact my view of any other candidates or any other person.

If Trump was actually losing support, wouldn't the polls show a gain for Biteme?            

Quote from: Solar on August 29, 2023, 08:02:55 PMIf Trump was actually losing support, wouldn't the polls show a gain for Biteme?            

He's not losing or gaining support.  That's my point.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 08:23:55 PMHe's not losing or gaining support.  That's my point.

Yet he is, had you bothered to look at the stats from RCP.
If DeSantis is toast, and Biteme is plummeting in the polls, where does that support go, when one considers the future of our once great Nation?

This is no longer a left/right issue fool, this is the future of our Nation. Whether we retain a Republic, or fall into a communist shithole.

It's odd, everyone else can see it, yet you blindly wade through the shit and pretend it doesn't smell all that bad.
Why are you so much in fuckin denial?

Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2023, 04:51:57 AMYet he is, had you bothered to look at the stats from RCP.
If DeSantis is toast, and Biteme is plummeting in the polls, where does that support go, when one considers the future of our once great Nation?

This is no longer a left/right issue fool, this is the future of our Nation. Whether we retain a Republic, or fall into a communist shithole.

It's odd, everyone else can see it, yet you blindly wade through the shit and pretend it doesn't smell all that bad.
Why are you so much in fuckin denial?

Not everyone shares your views.  By one person's estimation, only about 26% of the country does.


The Right Wing
26 percent of Republicans
Examples: Ted Cruz, the Freedom Caucus and Newt Gingrich

This group of Fox News, Newsmax and talk radio fans needs no introduction. It is relatively old and working class. It's convinced that the nation is on the brink of catastrophe. And it's deeply loyal to Mr. Trump.

Three-quarters of this group identify as "very conservative"; no more than a quarter of another group does so. Not surprisingly, it's likeliest to say compromise is just "selling out." Virtually none believe Mr. Trump — who was recently indicted for the fourth time — has committed serious federal crimes.


If it feels as if this group dominates the Republican Party beyond its numbers, that's because it does. This is the most highly engaged group of Republicans, routinely making it a kingmaker in Republican primaries. Overall, the Right Wing represents over a third of the Republican primary electorate, even though it's about a quarter of Republican-leaning registered voters.

There aren't many fissures within this group of MAGA hat owners and Trump flag fliers, at least not on the questions we asked in this survey. In the scheme of the Republican Party today, their differences don't loom especially large.

But in the past, the Right Wing has been quite divided. It most likely split between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz eight years ago. Earlier this year, many in this group probably entertained supporting Mr. DeSantis as well.

Whatever their reservations were about Mr. Trump in the past, they seem to have largely coalesced behind him today. That's bad news for Mr. DeSantis, who might count himself as a member of this group.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/17/upshot/six-kinds-of-republican-voters.html

Oh, BTW, DeSantis isn't dropping out any time soon.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 30, 2023, 06:03:47 AMNot everyone shares your views.  By one person's estimation, only about 26% of the country does.


The Right Wing
26 percent of Republicans
Examples: Ted Cruz, the Freedom Caucus and Newt Gingrich

This group of Fox News, Newsmax and talk radio fans needs no introduction. It is relatively old and working class. It's convinced that the nation is on the brink of catastrophe. And it's deeply loyal to Mr. Trump.

Three-quarters of this group identify as "very conservative"; no more than a quarter of another group does so. Not surprisingly, it's likeliest to say compromise is just "selling out." Virtually none believe Mr. Trump — who was recently indicted for the fourth time — has committed serious federal crimes.


If it feels as if this group dominates the Republican Party beyond its numbers, that's because it does. This is the most highly engaged group of Republicans, routinely making it a kingmaker in Republican primaries. Overall, the Right Wing represents over a third of the Republican primary electorate, even though it's about a quarter of Republican-leaning registered voters.

There aren't many fissures within this group of MAGA hat owners and Trump flag fliers, at least not on the questions we asked in this survey. In the scheme of the Republican Party today, their differences don't loom especially large.

But in the past, the Right Wing has been quite divided. It most likely split between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz eight years ago. Earlier this year, many in this group probably entertained supporting Mr. DeSantis as well.

Whatever their reservations were about Mr. Trump in the past, they seem to have largely coalesced behind him today. That's bad news for Mr. DeSantis, who might count himself as a member of this group.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/17/upshot/six-kinds-of-republican-voters.html

Oh, BTW, DeSantis isn't dropping out any time soon.

NY Slimes, and you expect to be taken seriously?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 30, 2023, 06:03:47 AMNot everyone shares your views.  By one person's estimation, only about 26% of the country does.


The Right Wing
26 percent of Republicans
Examples: Ted Cruz, the Freedom Caucus and Newt Gingrich

This group of Fox News, Newsmax and talk radio fans needs no introduction. It is relatively old and working class. It's convinced that the nation is on the brink of catastrophe. And it's deeply loyal to Mr. Trump.

Three-quarters of this group identify as "very conservative"; no more than a quarter of another group does so. Not surprisingly, it's likeliest to say compromise is just "selling out." Virtually none believe Mr. Trump — who was recently indicted for the fourth time — has committed serious federal crimes.


If it feels as if this group dominates the Republican Party beyond its numbers, that's because it does. This is the most highly engaged group of Republicans, routinely making it a kingmaker in Republican primaries. Overall, the Right Wing represents over a third of the Republican primary electorate, even though it's about a quarter of Republican-leaning registered voters.

There aren't many fissures within this group of MAGA hat owners and Trump flag fliers, at least not on the questions we asked in this survey. In the scheme of the Republican Party today, their differences don't loom especially large.

But in the past, the Right Wing has been quite divided. It most likely split between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz eight years ago. Earlier this year, many in this group probably entertained supporting Mr. DeSantis as well.

Whatever their reservations were about Mr. Trump in the past, they seem to have largely coalesced behind him today. That's bad news for Mr. DeSantis, who might count himself as a member of this group.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/17/upshot/six-kinds-of-republican-voters.html

Oh, BTW, DeSantis isn't dropping out any time soon.

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 08:23:55 PMHe's not losing or gaining support.  That's my point.

                 

Trump Raised $7.1 Million After Mugshot

Now, Politico reports that as of Saturday, Trump has raised $7.1 million since the mugshot - with $4.18 of it coming in on Friday, the single-highest 24-hour period of his campaign to date, according to a person familiar with the totals.

The campaign's fundraising has been powered by merchandise it has been selling through his online store. After Trump was taken into custody, the campaign began selling shirts, posters, bumper stickers and beverage coolers bearing Trump's scowling mugshot. The items bear the tagline "NEVER SURRENDER!" and range in price from $12 to $34.

The campaign has also been prodding online donors with emails and text messages. And on Thursday night, while flying back from Atlanta to Bedminster, N.J. Trump sent out his first tweet in more than two years directing supporters to his website. The site's landing page includes the mugshot and asks supporters to "make a contribution to evict Crooked Joe Biden from the White House and SAVE AMERICA during this dark chapter in our nation's history."

The fundraising blitz illustrates how Trump has parlayed his four indictments into campaign cash, rallying his hardcore supporters.

Trump's campaign says it has raised nearly $20 million in the last three weeks, during which time Trump was indicted on charges related to his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and for trying to overturn the Georgia vote count in the 2020 election. That figure is more than half of what Trump raised during his first seven months in the 2024 race.

"It's a bunch of bullshit," indeed...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-raised-71-million-after-mugshot

Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2023, 07:18:47 PMWe warned them, but they refused to listen!              

Who?

Quote from: ZenMode on August 29, 2023, 02:11:39 PMVivek has no chance.  That's why Trump and the media aren't attacking him. He's irrelevant.  However, Trump and the liberal media is ALL OVER DeSantis, because DeSantis is the real threat.

He's neck-and-neck, and in some places leading, DeSantis...                         

Quote from: taxed on September 03, 2023, 12:49:54 PMWho?

Oh, I remember...
Yeah, that RINO backed by the establishment, because Trump called them names.    

Quote from: taxed on September 03, 2023, 12:51:16 PMHe's neck-and-neck, and in some places leading, DeSantis...                         

Trump said Vivek is possible VP material.

Quote from: Solar on September 03, 2023, 12:53:56 PMTrump said Vivek is possible VP material.

That was a running kick to DeSantis' nuts...

Quote from: taxed on September 03, 2023, 01:00:06 PMThat was a running kick to DeSantis' nuts...

I swear, libs just don't understand MAGA.