Holder/Obama May Be In Trouble

Started by supsalemgr, April 08, 2015, 11:21:28 AM

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supsalemgr

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/texas-judge-doj-misconduct-immigration-dispute-116755.html

We may have a smoking gun here on Obama's illegal implementation of his amnesty plan. Judge Hanen has declared that DOJ lawyers were guilty of misconduct. Below is a key paragraph from the article:

"Hanen's order imposed an unusual sanction for what he deemed to be the government's misdeeds: a complete disclosure of who was involved in drafting the March 3 advisory about the three-year grants, including the details of when and how they were involved. The judge's demand intrudes into material the Justice Department would ordinarily consider privileged from disclosure under several different legal theories."

The lawyers must disclose who was involved in drafting the advisory. That could get real close to Holder.  :popcorn: :popcorn:
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redbeard

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 08, 2015, 11:21:28 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/texas-judge-doj-misconduct-immigration-dispute-116755.html

We may have a smoking gun here on Obama's illegal implementation of his amnesty plan. Judge Hanen has declared that DOJ lawyers were guilty of misconduct. Below is a key paragraph from the article:

"Hanen's order imposed an unusual sanction for what he deemed to be the government's misdeeds: a complete disclosure of who was involved in drafting the March 3 advisory about the three-year grants, including the details of when and how they were involved. The judge's demand intrudes into material the Justice Department would ordinarily consider privileged from disclosure under several different legal theories."

The lawyers must disclose who was involved in drafting the advisory. That could get real close to Holder.  :popcorn: :popcorn:


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Hanen's order imposed an unusual sanction for what he deemed to be the government's misdeeds: a complete disclosure of who was involved in drafting the March 3 advisory about the three-year grants, including the details of when and how they were involved. The judge's demand intrudes into material the Justice Department would ordinarily consider privileged from disclosure under several different legal theories.

However, Hanen — a George W. Bush appointee — ordered all such information preserved and said that if it is privileged it should be produced to him "in camera" for private review.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/texas-judge-doj-misconduct-immigration-dispute-116755.html#ixzz3WkZWBd7D
This coming just a day after the appellate court took up the appeal! Thing the judge was sending a message that the DOJ atty's. can't be trusted!! My mom always told me not to believe in coincidences! Timing is averything!! :popcorn: :popcorn:

redbeard

Just read where it will be just a 3 judge panel picked at random for the appeals court sure wish is was the full circuit. I guess we will have to see who they pick on Monday!
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ff-immigration-ruling-20150408-story.html#page=1 :blink: :blink:

kroz

Obama takes another major hit on his amnesty.  Those three randomly picked Federal Judges once again rule against him.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/obama-amnesty-takes-another-hit-in-court/


keyboarder

Quote from: kroz on May 26, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
Obama takes another major hit on his amnesty.  Those three randomly picked Federal Judges once again rule against him.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/obama-amnesty-takes-another-hit-in-court/

No amnesty!  It won't work  the way Obola and cronies are planning it to do.  There's the little matter of public outrage not to mention those that will champion the right way to go about immigration matters. 
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kroz

Quote from: keyboarder on May 28, 2015, 08:15:37 AM
No amnesty!  It won't work  the way Obola and cronies are planning it to do.  There's the little matter of public outrage not to mention those that will champion the right way to go about immigration matters.

It looks good but we must not lose sight of the fact that Obama does not seemed to be moved by court rulings.  I'm not so sure the courts will be any more effective than Congress has been on this issue of illegal immigration.  Obama sticks his nose in the air and dares anyone to stop him!!

daidalos

Quote from: kroz on May 28, 2015, 11:59:24 AM
It looks good but we must not lose sight of the fact that Obama does not seemed to be moved by court rulings.  I'm not so sure the courts will be any more effective than Congress has been on this issue of illegal immigration.  Obama sticks his nose in the air and dares anyone to stop him!!
He knows the Congress lacks the backbone to stop him. Plain and simple, what do you think is going to happen even if they rule against him in the Supreme Court of the United States?

Nada, zip.

He'll do just like Lincoln, and just like Jackson and say, basically "oh well, that's nice, now enforce it".

One allowed the attempted mass genocide of the Cherokee Nation, and the annihilation of it's culture. The other resulted in a civil war between the States.

Elections have Consequences, and so does, who sits in our Congress. Acting as the representatives of us, and the individual States. Because, well we see what happen's when a spineless RINO infested Congress is combined with criminal President's.
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kroz

Quote from: daidalos on May 28, 2015, 12:09:22 PM
He knows the Congress lacks the backbone to stop him. Plain and simple, what do you think is going to happen even if they rule against him in the Supreme Court of the United States?

Nada, zip.

He'll do just like Lincoln, and just like Jackson and say, basically "oh well, that's nice, now enforce it".

One allowed the attempted mass genocide of the Cherokee Nation, and the annihilation of it's culture. The other resulted in a civil war between the States.

Elections have Consequences, and so does, who sits in our Congress. Acting as the representatives of us, and the individual States. Because, well we see what happen's when a spineless RINO infested Congress is combined with criminal President's.

You overlooked the destruction of FDR.  ....... He compounded the devastation of the Great Depression and proceeded to spend the Nation into oblivion AND tried to stack the SCOTUS by adding more seats to the Court.   Had he not died in office, there is no telling how much more damage he would have done.  He was extremely dangerous to this Nation..... and the whole time had the uninformed voters eating out of his hand!!!

quiller

Quote from: kroz on May 28, 2015, 12:16:21 PM
You overlooked the destruction of FDR.  ....... He compounded the devastation of the Great Depression and proceeded to spend the Nation into oblivion AND tried to stack the SCOTUS by adding more seats to the Court.   Had he not died in office, there is no telling how much more damage he would have done.  He was extremely dangerous to this Nation..... and the whole time had the uninformed voters eating out of his hand!!!

Odd thing how the news media actively hid Roosevelt's physical infirmities from the public. Had he been photographed with two canes or other proof of fallibility, would America have treated him as kindly? I can see not dumping him during wartime, despite MacArthur's intransigence, but after 1945 he should have been booted and things returned to two-terms-and-gone.

kroz

Quote from: quiller on May 28, 2015, 12:28:00 PM
Odd thing how the news media actively hid Roosevelt's physical infirmities from the public. Had he been photographed with two canes or other proof of fallibility, would America have treated him as kindly? I can see not dumping him during wartime, despite MacArthur's intransigence, but after 1945 he should have been booted and things returned to two-terms-and-gone.

How do you boot him?   Believe me, Congress would have loved to dump him but the voters would not!

There were no term limits then, but as soon as he died they enacted the two term limit.  Until then, FDR would have vetoed it.  FDR had everyone over a barrel..... much as it seems Obama does today.  No one had the ability to stop FDRs radical agenda....... nor Obama's.    :ohmy:

quiller

Quote from: kroz on May 28, 2015, 12:43:48 PM
How do you boot him?   Believe me, Congress would have loved to dump him but the voters would not!

There were no term limits then, but as soon as he died they enacted the two term limit.  Until then, FDR would have vetoed it.  FDR had everyone over a barrel..... much as it seems Obama does today.  No one had the ability to stop FDRs radical agenda....... nor Obama's.    :ohmy:
He had media eating from his hand (call them the internal Walter Durantys). This was still the Radio Age and newsreels in theaters, so whatever photos were allowed to be used always showed Roosevelt seated or propped up somehow to look as if he were active.

America didn't care much for liars of any party back then. Unfortunately they were also not as open-minded. You NEVER saw any cripple in a film that was not there to make others look like saints for even tolerating them. It took Jimmy Stewart in "Rear Window" to get people to watch a film where the central character was in a chair...a decade (1955) after FDR.

True photos would have worked and they'd have voted him out for the chicanery, JUST as much as poli-junkies would have voted him out over Court-stacking and his other BS.