Quote from: JakeJ on July 22, 2016, 01:04:08 PM
Looking over some of the messages I wonder if some members so intensely bitter over Cruz losing who plan to write in Cruz and hoping Hillary Clinton becomes president can stand their now TWO candidates both losing in same election without a true emotional breakdown. 

Maybe those on the Bush/Kasich/Cruz losers-R-Us team should get a room to watch the returns together on election might shouting Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! to try to bury the pain of Bush, Kasich and Cruz losing again - until the projections that come in that Donald J. Trump has won. Then all of you can go get together with the Democrats declaring Trump can never win re-election to continue the "Trump can't win" going on now for a year and before each time has won again.

Or maybe it should be Bush/Kasich/Cruz Quitters-R-Us club.

I doubt Trump has much use for quitters and bad losers malcontents. At least I don't anyway.

Trump has his club, kinda private....  practice makes perfect..... Bankruptcy-R-Trump's

OMG!!!  He's a loser-ala-KING.  He QUITS after he loses his own money and his investors money.  Now he's asking for donations...?   

They walk among us, and sometimes... step right in it.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 22, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
Trump has his club, kinda private....  practice makes perfect..... Bankruptcy-R-Trump's

OMG!!!  He's a loser-ala-KING.  He QUITS after he loses his own money and his investors money.  Now he's asking for donations...?   

They walk among us, and sometimes... step right in it.

I still have yet to hear about a successful Trump venture....

Quote from: taxed on July 22, 2016, 02:32:37 PM


I still have yet to hear about a successful Trump venture....

.... thanks man, I'm getting a headache trying to think of one.

Quote from: taxed on July 22, 2016, 02:32:37 PM


I still have yet to hear about a successful Trump venture....

The only one I know of was stealing the election from Cruz by enlisting the Dim party to funnel lib votes in open primary.
Beyond that, got nutin...

Quote from: taxed on July 22, 2016, 02:32:37 PM


I still have yet to hear about a successful Trump venture....

Well he did get a new wife.   

Quote from: Solar on April 02, 2016, 07:33:53 AM
Yes, it's a bit premature, but lets be honest, the GOP Establishment writes the rules and they've already told us, they elect the candidate, not us.
Without going into details and rules that would put a meth head to sleep, suffice it to say they will fight with every dirty trick in the book to keep a Constitutional Conservative out of power.

As it stands, Trump will be yesterdays news in short time, Cruz will run the board and expose the game both party's have been running, and despite the sudden groundswell of support for Cruz emerging, the Establishment and LSM have the lies at the ready, even Cruz epitaph.

So lets take a stand here and now to WRITE IN CRUZ regardless and make him the next POTUS.

God knows, I hope I'm wrong, but since when has the Establishment ever been on the side of Conservatism?

I'm just curious why Senator Cruz gets a pass by so many when he ignores both the text and documented legislative intent of our Constitution on two key issues, federal taxation and "legal tender", both of which are the very tools used by the Washington Establishment  to plunder the real material wealth created by America's labor, businesses and investors.

When it comes to Cruz's tax reform plan, he keeps alive the socialist friendly tax calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other "incomes" and ignores the rule of apportioning any direct tax laid among the states.  Likewise, when it comes to our nation's medium of exchange, he ignores the founder's specific rule to forbid notes of any kind to be made a legal tender.

I don't know how many posters here have studied the making of our Constitution and how the founders addressed the evils of a corruptible and oppressive system of taxation or a dishonest and thieving money system, but those who have I am inclined to believe realize these two issues are at the heart of most of our nation's sufferings.


JWK

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."___James Madison
   

 

Quote from: johnwk on July 25, 2016, 06:23:24 AM

I'm just curious why Senator Cruz gets a pass by so many when he ignores both the text and documented legislative intent of our Constitution on two key issues, federal taxation and "legal tender", both of which are the very tools used by the Washington Establishment  to plunder the real material wealth created by America's labor, businesses and investors.

When it comes to Cruz's tax reform plan, he keeps alive the socialist friendly tax calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other "incomes" and ignores the rule of apportioning any direct tax laid among the states.  Likewise, when it comes to our nation's medium of exchange, he ignores the founder's specific rule to forbid notes of any kind to be made a legal tender.

I don't know how many posters here have studied the making of our Constitution and how the founders addressed the evils of a corruptible and oppressive system of taxation or a dishonest and thieving money system, but those who have I am inclined to believe realize these two issues are at the heart of most of our nation's sufferings.


JWK

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."___James Madison
   

Seriously, are you really that obtuse? Is that supposed to change minds when the two nominees, one a Marxist, the other a leftist fascist are running, and you come up with this petty nonsense?

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2016, 06:27:35 AM
Seriously, are you really that obtuse? Is that supposed to change minds when the two nominees, one a Marxist, the other a leftist fascist are running, and you come up with this petty nonsense?

Cruz was facing other GOPers who were raving-lunatic moderates with Chamber of Commerce brands on each cheek of each subservient ass. And no, he wasn't perfect, and probably still isn't...but Ted Cruz remains the only conservative worth listening to. End of statement.

We take the people we can get. Plain and simple. There are men and women out there who would NEVER subject themselves to the rigors of public scrutiny which any candidate endures...and yet those same reluctant folks are probably ten times better at doing something than a federal employee actually doing (or failing to do) it.

Our next President coulda been a waitress in Waukegan. A liquor store clerk in Miami. But nah, they didn't want every atom of their lives dissected, so Ted Cruz is the one who stepped forward and that's who we wound up with to carry the principles conservatives do believe and do practice in their private lives.

Same thing for money, actually. You're welcome to offer substitutes but as yet no viable alternate has been found, so whining about that detail is as picayune as the notion that we should accept less than the best that's being offered.

Ted Cruz isn't perfect. But he's the only conservative in the game, and for that he has my unqualified heartfelt support.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2016, 06:27:35 AM
Seriously, are you really that obtuse? Is that supposed to change minds when the two nominees, one a Marxist, the other a leftist fascist are running, and you come up with this petty nonsense?

Petty nonsense?  The "Marxist" and "leftist fascist" you refer to ignore these two vital issues, just like Cruz ignores them.  Seems that all three have something in common ___ a disregard for our Constitution when it comes to taxation and legal tender which are the tools used by our notoriously evil federal government to plunder and control our nation's population.


JWK



"Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."_____ Daniel  Webster.

What do you propose to do to change all this, johnwk?

Quote from: johnwk on July 25, 2016, 07:09:01 AM
Petty nonsense?  The "Marxist" and "leftist fascist" you refer to ignore these two vital issues, just like Cruz ignores them.  Seems that all three have something in common ___ a disregard for our Constitution when it comes to taxation and legal tender which are the tools used by our notoriously evil federal government to plunder and control our nation's population.


JWK



"Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."_____ Daniel  Webster.

uiller covered it, but...
You have a serious screw loose, if you think eliminating the IRS is somehow comparable to that of the plans in place by a Marxist and a Fascist leftist to grow both, govt and the IRS, and continuing it's use as a weapon to beat Conservatives into submission.
I've heard your claims, now back that bull shit up!

Quote from: quiller on July 25, 2016, 07:21:14 AM
What do you propose to do to change all this, johnwk?

How about working to elect public servants who will support and defend the text of our Constitution and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text?


JWK




Those who reject and ignore abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to "interpret" the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean. 

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2016, 08:53:17 AM
uiller covered it, but...
You have a serious screw loose, if you think eliminating the IRS is somehow comparable to that of the plans in place by a Marxist and a Fascist leftist to grow both, govt and the IRS, and continuing it's use as a weapon to beat Conservatives into submission.
I've heard your claims, now back that bull shit up!

Exactly what am I to back up?  Quote my words which you are referring to.


JWK




  "The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)

Quote from: johnwk on July 25, 2016, 11:49:28 AM
Exactly what am I to back up?  Quote my words which you are referring to.


JWK




  "The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)

All I hear is a lot of whining and no solutions. So, what do you suggest he do?

Quote from: johnwk on July 25, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
How about working to elect public servants who will support and defend the text of our Constitution and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text?


JWK




Those who reject and ignore abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to "interpret" the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean. 

In other words you want your unrealistic idealism to outweigh the practical issues involved in ANY change from our existing monetary system. To do so requires a compliant Congress and Supreme Court. How would you propose to get those  bodies to agree?