Quote from: quiller on July 19, 2016, 06:28:05 AM
You may recall that before the 2004 election, at Another Undisclosed Location™ where you, me and others usedta hang out, right about this time the programmed teams of people came in with raft after raft of long well-written posts covering topics the opinion pollsters SERIOUSLY wanted us to discuss.

He wasn't among them.

He is not even at a Romper Room Kid Debater™ level yet.

Quote from: gandb77 on July 19, 2016, 05:01:12 AM
To Jonathan. don't feel bad that you have been banned from this forum. Just understand that this is a closed forum and is populated by a group of individuals that all think the  same and allow no contrary thinking.
As you will note most all comments come from Solar, Walkstall, Quiller, Ms Independence, and Double D.
A closed group that talks to each other and allows no discussion.
The ( Chattering nabobs)
If you disagree with their comments you are idiotic, stupid, ill informed, immature and or some other vile name.  Don't sweat it,  Just move on.

Thank you for the recognition. I might be famous one day!

Quote from: walkstall on July 19, 2016, 06:36:04 AM
He is not even at a Romper Room Kid Debater™ level yet.

As far as leftists go, debate means how fast you can make the other party agree to your ridiculous position, short of physical violence. For that you unionize.

Quote from: gandb77 on July 19, 2016, 05:01:12 AM
To Jonathan. don't feel bad that you have been banned from this forum. Just understand that this is a closed forum and is populated by a group of individuals that all think the  same and allow no contrary thinking.
As you will note most all comments come from Solar, Walkstall, Quiller, Ms Independence, and Double D.
A closed group that talks to each other and allows no discussion.
The ( Chattering nabobs)
If you disagree with their comments you are idiotic, stupid, ill informed, immature and or some other vile name.  Don't sweat it,  Just move on.

No kidding!  I'm new to this forum and already I have been labeled and accused by a liberal! How flattering!  Perhaps 'Conservative Political Forum' - should have been your first clue.  Trying to persuade conservatives to a liberal viewpoint, especially in this political climate is futile...in fact...it is an insult!

Quote from: Ms.Independence on July 19, 2016, 04:16:57 PM
No kidding!  I'm new to this forum and already I have been labeled and accused by a liberal! How flattering!  Perhaps 'Conservative Political Forum' - should have been your first clue.  Trying to persuade conservatives to a liberal viewpoint, especially in this political climate is futile...in fact...it is an insult!

Flatter right back. Make the little buggers regret they were ever born.

Quote from: gandb77 on July 19, 2016, 05:01:12 AM
To Jonathan. don't feel bad that you have been banned from this forum. Just understand that this is a closed forum and is populated by a group of individuals that all think the  same and allow no contrary thinking.
As you will note most all comments come from Solar, Walkstall, Quiller, Ms Independence, and Double D.
A closed group that talks to each other and allows no discussion.
The ( Chattering nabobs)
If you disagree with their comments you are idiotic, stupid, ill informed, immature and or some other vile name.  Don't sweat it,  Just move on.

Please wait 15 minutes after taking your meds before posting...

Quote from: taxed on July 19, 2016, 06:55:33 PM
Please wait 15 minutes after taking your meds before posting...

He has made his last post.  So he can skip his meds. 

With the debacle at the convention and outright suppression of the entire base by leftist Dims running the GOP, does anyone think this just might backfire on these scum when the majority do a protest vote and write in Cruz?
Lets be honest, like Paulettes, the trumpanzees are a vocal lot yet surprisingly small in numbers, and after reading Tacs latest thread, it's obvious they weren't even actual people, but rather paid trolls.
Yes, the base, the majority of Pub voters did not support Trump, yet the RNC gave the vote to Trump because the libs swayed the vote, voters that would never support Trump during the upcoming election.

Does anyone need more proof that the DNC runs the RNC? So what happens now?
TEA has had it's fill of libs being propped up over Conservatives which is why Mitten lost and why Jeb was stuck in a pile of shit at the starting gate and never even participated in the running. Yes, the base refuses to support liberals...
No, the base won't be supporting the lib this time around either, and with the tiny percentile of GOP voters that actually participated in supporting the NY lib, it's obvious he hasn't a prayer. So why even waste your vote on the loser, why not vote for Cruz and walk away with a clear conscience?

Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2016, 06:06:27 AM
With the debacle at the convention and outright suppression of the entire base by leftist Dims running the GOP, does anyone think this just might backfire on these scum when the majority do a protest vote and write in Cruz?
Lets be honest, like Paulettes, the trumpanzees are a vocal lot yet surprisingly small in numbers, and after reading Tacs latest thread, it's obvious they weren't even actual people, but rather paid trolls.
Yes, the base, the majority of Pub voters did not support Trump, yet the RNC gave the vote to Trump because the libs swayed the vote, voters that would never support Trump during the upcoming election.

Does anyone need more proof that the DNC runs the RNC? So what happens now?
TEA has had it's fill of libs being propped up over Conservatives which is why Mitten lost and why Jeb was stuck in a pile of shit at the starting gate and never even participated in the running. Yes, the base refuses to support liberals...
No, the base won't be supporting the lib this time around either, and with the tiny percentile of GOP voters that actually participated in supporting the NY lib, it's obvious he hasn't a prayer. So why even waste your vote on the loser, why not vote for Cruz and walk away with a clear conscience?

So No roll call vote No Accountability.  That like letting people walk in with NO ID and just vote.   So "He with the Loudest Voice Wins" (Voices)  What a way to run a party No Accountability.

Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2016, 06:06:27 AM
With the debacle at the convention and outright suppression of the entire base by leftist Dims running the GOP, does anyone think this just might backfire on these scum when the majority do a protest vote and write in Cruz?
Lets be honest, like Paulettes, the trumpanzees are a vocal lot yet surprisingly small in numbers, and after reading Tacs latest thread, it's obvious they weren't even actual people, but rather paid trolls.
Yes, the base, the majority of Pub voters did not support Trump, yet the RNC gave the vote to Trump because the libs swayed the vote, voters that would never support Trump during the upcoming election.

Does anyone need more proof that the DNC runs the RNC? So what happens now?
TEA has had it's fill of libs being propped up over Conservatives which is why Mitten lost and why Jeb was stuck in a pile of shit at the starting gate and never even participated in the running. Yes, the base refuses to support liberals...
No, the base won't be supporting the lib this time around either, and with the tiny percentile of GOP voters that actually participated in supporting the NY lib, it's obvious he hasn't a prayer. So why even waste your vote on the loser, why not vote for Cruz and walk away with a clear conscience?

I have planned on writing in Cruz for months.  However, the magnitude of what happened at the convention and for that matter this primary cannot be ignored. The GOP died and along with it a vital piece of our Republic; the electoral process. A political coup took place; delegates were threatened, Cruz was stripped of his delegates, delegates were denied a roll call and the RNC ignored their own rules in order to hand the nomination to Trump. Preibus was bought a long time ago by the Clinton/Trump machine. I have zero confidence that any write in votes will even be counted.  I have a hunch that during the general election  precinct captains, poll workers and voters will be intimidated by the Trump thugs.

This only reinforces my conservative convictions.  I will continue to vote my conscious regardless.  I see it as my duty to my country.   #NeverTrump

Cruz.  Reigniting the Promise of America!!!

Quote from: Ms.Independence on July 20, 2016, 07:13:16 AM
I have planned on writing in Cruz for months.  However, the magnitude of what happened at the convention and for that matter this primary cannot be ignored. The GOP died and along with it a vital piece of our Republic; the electoral process. A political coup took place; delegates were threatened, Cruz was stripped of his delegates, delegates were denied a roll call and the RNC ignored their own rules in order to hand the nomination to Trump. Preibus was bought a long time ago by the Clinton/Trump machine. I have zero confidence that any write in votes will even be counted.  I have a hunch that during the general election  precinct captains, poll workers and voters will be intimidated by the Trump thugs.

This only reinforces my conservative convictions.  I will continue to vote my conscious regardless.  I see it as my duty to my country.   #NeverTrump

Cruz.  Reigniting the Promise of America!!!

Nah, the RNC is now despised by the States, and State operatives are pissed, for example.

It has been reported that Alaska did not turn in its required signatures to contribute toward the rules committee roll call vote.
As a rules committee member, I had secured more than enough signatures from Alaska delegates, but the convention secretary was not at the designated location where I was told to submit them.
Some said she was hiding. Others said she was protected by guards. Regardless, I was told I could also present the signatures from the floor.
Nevertheless, when the vote occurred, my mic was not turned on. When I attempted to present these signatures at the stage, my effort was ignored by the chair, and the security guard turned me away.
The effort was made even more difficult by Alaska's late-arriving bus and slow security lines at the entrance.
Overall, this was not a good demonstration of delegate accommodation, nor of full, open, honest debate of the rules as was promised during the rules committee orientation.
Fred Brown
Rules Committee
Member, Alaska

Conventions are their own dynamics and when it comes to disputes are anything but fair. They are what they are. Endless scheming, plotting, tempers flaring. Always happens if there are disputes. I've been to many of them but most watched with a 3rd eye view like watching a circus. Very interesting. Little to do with fairness.

It is important to remember Cruz dropped out, though he would have won more delegates if he hadn't, to prevent coming to be losing too much to preserve himself for future elections But, then, if a person sacrifices taking risks now instead to gamble on the future, he doesn't have a good case to complaint about losing in the now. A person who concedes doesn't really have a complaint about losing. To win a floor fight he would have needed to fight to very end - not give up and then somehow figure he should win anyway.

Why did Cruz quit and stop trying to get delegates in the remaining states?

I am very familiar with Texas politics and watched the rise and then self entrapment of Ron Paul. He gave up being a potential president to instead foster the cheers of the furthest right seeing him uniquely as the ONLY TRUE conservative - for which then all other Republicans and everyone who doesn't agree 100% is evil. He went off the reservation.

When I knew that was his future was when he was traveling about the state trying to get statewide following and I heard 2 of his early era speeches. In it, he said among other things that only land should be allowed to vote, that Lincoln was essentially a mass murderer, and a person should have to pass tests before being allowed to vote (literacy tests).

Yes, some saw him as their one true champion. And I saw a person who is going to become basically a very limited ideological cult leader of extremely devoted followers but no more - and that's what happened. This is exactly the same path I see Cruz traveling down. He is buying his own hype and going further and further in the direction of the most militant and intolerant activists. He likes their raving praises of him. But it's a trap.

He would be far wiser to consider such political advise as mine than those who furiously declare he is the only true conservative furiously cursing anyone who disagrees with anything he says or does. If he is against everyone but his own most militant activists that means everyone else is against him. It is easy for a candidate to nobly lose to the cheers of his activists.

Quote from: JakeJ on July 21, 2016, 10:38:11 PM
I am very familiar with Texas politics and watched the rise and then self entrapment of Ron Paul. He gave up being a potential president to instead foster the cheers of the furthest right seeing him uniquely as the ONLY TRUE conservative - for which then all other Republicans and everyone who doesn't agree 100% is evil. He went off the reservation.

When I knew that was his future was when he was traveling about the state trying to get statewide following and I heard 2 of his early era speeches. In it, he said among other things that only land should be allowed to vote, that Lincoln was essentially a mass murderer, and a person should have to pass tests before being allowed to vote (literacy tests).

Yes, some saw him as their one true champion. And I saw a person who is going to become basically a very limited ideological cult leader of extremely devoted followers but no more - and that's what happened. This is exactly the same path I see Cruz traveling down. He is buying his own hype and going further and further in the direction of the most militant and intolerant activists. He likes their raving praises of him. But it's a trap.

He would be far wiser to consider such political advise as mine than those who furiously declare he is the only true conservative furiously cursing anyone who disagrees with anything he says or does. If he is against everyone but his own most militant activists that means everyone else is against him. It is easy for a candidate to nobly lose to the cheers of his activists.

You don't see Cruz on the same path.  Please quit lying.  They are very different, and conservatives know that.

Quote from: JakeJ on July 21, 2016, 10:38:11 PM
I am very familiar with Texas politics and watched the rise and then self entrapment of Ron Paul. He gave up being a potential president to instead foster the cheers of the furthest right seeing him uniquely as the ONLY TRUE conservative - for which then all other Republicans and everyone who doesn't agree 100% is evil. He went off the reservation.

When I knew that was his future was when he was traveling about the state trying to get statewide following and I heard 2 of his early era speeches. In it, he said among other things that only land should be allowed to vote, that Lincoln was essentially a mass murderer, and a person should have to pass tests before being allowed to vote (literacy tests).

Yes, some saw him as their one true champion. And I saw a person who is going to become basically a very limited ideological cult leader of extremely devoted followers but no more - and that's what happened. This is exactly the same path I see Cruz traveling down. He is buying his own hype and going further and further in the direction of the most militant and intolerant activists. He likes their raving praises of him. But it's a trap.

He would be far wiser to consider such political advise as mine than those who furiously declare he is the only true conservative furiously cursing anyone who disagrees with anything he says or does. If he is against everyone but his own most militant activists that means everyone else is against him. It is easy for a candidate to nobly lose to the cheers of his activists.

So in essence what you're implying, is f Cruz wants to win, he needs to be more Establishment like, lie to his constituents, tell them all kinds of crap, and govern to the left when elected?
Well that's brilliant, look how well that's worked out for the party as a whole, how despised they are by their very own base, so much so, they had to support a child molesting NY Lib for the ticket.

Nah, that's not true, they supported the lib, because that's who the Establishment are, a bunch of fuckin traitorous libs without values or principles.
But you knew that, that's why you're here, you were sent out to quell the anger Conservatives have for the leadership of the party.
Well you can go back and tell them you failed, but take heart, it wasn't for lack of trying, nor was it your fault you couldn't convince us like Jim Jones did his followers, no, we refuse to swallow the leftist poison.
You can tell them we intend to fight to the death, that being the death of the party, of which we will rebuild in the image of our Founders.