Quote from: gandb77 on April 18, 2016, 04:17:30 PM
Neither Trump or Cruz are favorites of the establishment of the republican party,   When it comes to the second and or third votes at the convention, it is totally unlikely that the party regulars will select Trump or Cruz.   There will be rules changes that will allow a third person to be nominated.  Someone more palatable to the party.

Sounds like you think the delegates are synonymous with "establishment." It is totally LIKELY that delegates will fulfill their obligated (first) vote and then keep voting until they get the man they want. (Pronoun deliberate.) There are many Presidential conventions where this has gone into several rounds.

At that point the party is obliged to accept what their delegates want---the more closely-aligned part of their party is telling them, you screwed up and here's the guy we think our people back home will vote for. Simple. Inevitable if the party bosses don't want to get voted out or die friendless at these confabs.

Look it up. Learn something unless you think it might injure you there in your cocoon.

Hi, I'm kinda new here, Richard's my name.

If we are not permitted to by majority vote in the primaries choose our Candidate, and that Majority it is has been shown to be Donald Trump.

Clinton will win.

Yes, the other establishment choice could win, but not likely.

The media has told us: We don't like Trump.

The Establishment on both sides say they'll find a way to subvert our vote.

The Crazies have said they will burn buildings again if we choose him.

Not all but a couple of those who ran against him are still hoping to stop the majority vote from counting.

Enemies overseas have said they want don't want us to have this man, the hell with them.

The Clintons don't want to run against him.

What is shown by the majority of the Non Left American Voters is Donald trump is their choice~And those mentioned above DO NOT WANT OUR/YOUR WILL EXPRESSED.

Think about it or it's a vote more than likely for Clinton.

Quote from: valley on April 28, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
Hi, I'm kinda new here, Richard's my name.

If we are not permitted to by majority vote in the primaries choose our Candidate, and that Majority it is has been shown to be Donald Trump.

Clinton will win.

Yes, the other establishment choice could win, but not likely.

The media has told us: We don't like Trump.

The Establishment on both sides say they'll find a way to subvert our vote.

The Crazies have said they will burn buildings again if we choose him.

Not all but a couple of those who ran against him are still hoping to stop the majority vote from counting.

Enemies overseas have said they want don't want us to have this man, the hell with them.

The Clintons don't want to run against him.

What is shown by the majority of the Non Left American Voters is Donald trump is their choice~And those mentioned above DO NOT WANT OUR/YOUR WILL EXPRESSED.

Think about it or it's a vote more than likely for Clinton.

Taxed, Solar, Hoofer.....we have a hang'n curve ball waiting to get driv'n to RIGHT field..... break out the quotes and send him on his way

Quote from: Solar on April 02, 2016, 07:33:53 AM
Yes, it's a bit premature, but lets be honest, the GOP Establishment writes the rules and they've already told us, they elect the candidate, not us.
Without going into details and rules that would put a meth head to sleep, suffice it to say they will fight with every dirty trick in the book to keep a Constitutional Conservative out of power.

As it stands, Trump will be yesterdays news in short time, Cruz will run the board and expose the game both party's have been running, and despite the sudden groundswell of support for Cruz emerging, the Establishment and LSM have the lies at the ready, even Cruz epitaph.

So lets take a stand here and now to WRITE IN CRUZ regardless and make him the next POTUS.

God knows, I hope I'm wrong, but since when has the Establishment ever been on the side of Conservatism?

Yep. If there were ever a candidate who was likely to be assassinated by the NWO, it would be Ted Cruz. No doubt they are looking for someone to dose with Ketamine / PCP / LSD and work over with sleep deprivation/subliminal assassin programming, as we speak.

Quote from: valley on April 28, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
Hi, I'm kinda new here, Richard's my name.

We'll call ya Dick for short.

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If we are not permitted to by majority vote in the primaries choose our Candidate, and that Majority it is has been shown to be Donald Trump.

Explain.

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Clinton will win.

No she won't.  Trump won't be the nominee.

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Yes, the other establishment choice could win, but not likely.

Kasich is pretty far back.  I wouldn't pay him too much mind, except for when his delegates come on over to Cruz.

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The media has told us: We don't like Trump.

Well, we actually told the media that.  They just don't listen very well.  In all fairness, nobody likes Trump.  Not even his home state, where Hillary TROUNCED him in vote count in the primary.  Bernie even trounced Donnie.  I guess people in his home state know him too well.  Anyway, if Trump was nominated, he proved he loses his home state.  But tell us again how he beats Hillary?

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The Establishment on both sides say they'll find a way to subvert our vote.

They have?

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The Crazies have said they will burn buildings again if we choose him.

I'm really scared.  I guess I'll vote for the radical liberal then.

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Not all but a couple of those who ran against him are still hoping to stop the majority vote from counting.

Explain.

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Enemies overseas have said they want don't want us to have this man, the hell with them.

And our allies.  Nobody wants him.

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The Clintons don't want to run against him.

Yes they do.  They need someone with higher unfavorables and more baggage than Hillary.  She also takes his home state.  Actually, he should be her VP.

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What is shown by the majority of the Non Left American Voters is Donald trump is their choice~And those mentioned above DO NOT WANT OUR/YOUR WILL EXPRESSED.

Donnie doesn't have a lot of support.  I'm sorry, Hannity lied to you.

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Think about it or it's a vote more than likely for Clinton.

We do think.  That's why we wouldn't vote for a radical liberal.

Quote from: valley on April 28, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
Hi, I'm kinda new here, Richard's my name.

If we are not permitted to by majority vote in the primaries choose our Candidate, and that Majority it is has been shown to be Donald Trump.

Clinton will win.

Yes, the other establishment choice could win, but not likely.

The media has told us: We don't like Trump.

The Establishment on both sides say they'll find a way to subvert our vote.

The Crazies have said they will burn buildings again if we choose him.

Not all but a couple of those who ran against him are still hoping to stop the majority vote from counting.

Enemies overseas have said they want don't want us to have this man, the hell with them.

The Clintons don't want to run against him.

What is shown by the majority of the Non Left American Voters is Donald trump is their choice~And those mentioned above DO NOT WANT OUR/YOUR WILL EXPRESSED.

Think about it or it's a vote more than likely for Clinton.

Good God, this is like playing T-Ball...
Wheres the challenge?

If CO allows a write in, I will do that.

Go to your local secretary of state or other voting authority and get the OFFICIAL ways to get a write-in candidate registered in your county. This is NOT as easy as you'd expect for obvious incumbent-protection reasons. Next, get the local media into it and announce you are seeking signatures at address-thus-and-so.

Then watch them not bother remembering you, the week before they anoint Hillary. You need to hammer them with calls from more than just a few people to get them aware voters ARE serious. Newsroom attitudes will be: why are you bothering, when we anoint our next President for you?

Quote from: valley on April 28, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
Hi, I'm kinda new here, Richard's my name.

If we are not permitted to by majority vote in the primaries choose our Candidate, and that Majority it is has been shown to be Donald Trump.

I believe for the Primaries, all the ballots have been printed. 

I vote in CA on June 7.  Cruz, Carson and Kasich are on the Primary ballot.

This is from wiki

In 1928, Herbert Hoover won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary on write-ins, polling 100,279.
In 1940, Franklin D. Roosevelt won the Democratic New Jersey presidential primary with 34,278 write-ins.
In 1944, Thomas Dewey won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 146,706 write-ins. He also won the Oregon Republican presidential primary with 50,001 write-ins.
In 1948, Harold Stassen won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 81,242 write-ins.
In 1952, Robert A. Taft won the Republican Nebraska presidential primary with 79,357 write-ins.
Also in 1952, Estes Kefauver won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 93,160 write-ins.
Also in 1952, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 254,898 write-ins.
In 1956, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 51,951 write-ins.
In 1960, Richard Nixon won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 53,164 write-ins.
Also in 1960, John F. Kennedy won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 183,073 write-ins, and he won the Democratic Massachusetts presidential primary with 91,607 write-ins.
In 1964, a write-in campaign organized by supporters of former U.S. Senator and vice presidential nominee Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. won Republican primaries for President in New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, defeating declared candidates Barry Goldwater, Nelson Rockefeller, and Margaret Chase Smith.
In 1968 in the Democratic presidential primary in New Hampshire, incumbent President Lyndon Johnson did not file, but received write-ins totaling 50% of all Democratic votes cast. Senator Eugene McCarthy, who campaigned actively against Johnson's Vietnam war policies, was on the ballot. He received an impressive 41% of the vote and gained more delegates than the President. Johnson was so stunned that he did not run for reelection.[2]
Consumer advocate Ralph Nader ran a write-in campaign in 1992 during the New Hampshire primary for the presidential nomination of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Declaring himself the "none of the above candidate" and using the Concord Principles as his platform, Nader received 3,054 votes from Democrats and 3,258 votes from Republicans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Quote from: Dori on May 08, 2016, 07:11:48 AM
I believe for the Primaries, all the ballots have been printed. 

I vote in CA on June 7.  Cruz, Carson and Kasich are on the Primary ballot.

This is from wiki

In 1928, Herbert Hoover won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary on write-ins, polling 100,279.
In 1940, Franklin D. Roosevelt won the Democratic New Jersey presidential primary with 34,278 write-ins.
In 1944, Thomas Dewey won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 146,706 write-ins. He also won the Oregon Republican presidential primary with 50,001 write-ins.
In 1948, Harold Stassen won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 81,242 write-ins.
In 1952, Robert A. Taft won the Republican Nebraska presidential primary with 79,357 write-ins.
Also in 1952, Estes Kefauver won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 93,160 write-ins.
Also in 1952, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 254,898 write-ins.
In 1956, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 51,951 write-ins.
In 1960, Richard Nixon won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 53,164 write-ins.
Also in 1960, John F. Kennedy won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 183,073 write-ins, and he won the Democratic Massachusetts presidential primary with 91,607 write-ins.
In 1964, a write-in campaign organized by supporters of former U.S. Senator and vice presidential nominee Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. won Republican primaries for President in New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, defeating declared candidates Barry Goldwater, Nelson Rockefeller, and Margaret Chase Smith.
In 1968 in the Democratic presidential primary in New Hampshire, incumbent President Lyndon Johnson did not file, but received write-ins totaling 50% of all Democratic votes cast. Senator Eugene McCarthy, who campaigned actively against Johnson's Vietnam war policies, was on the ballot. He received an impressive 41% of the vote and gained more delegates than the President. Johnson was so stunned that he did not run for reelection.[2]
Consumer advocate Ralph Nader ran a write-in campaign in 1992 during the New Hampshire primary for the presidential nomination of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Declaring himself the "none of the above candidate" and using the Concord Principles as his platform, Nader received 3,054 votes from Democrats and 3,258 votes from Republicans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

We received our ballots in Oregon the day before Cruz announced his suspension. We all voted for Cruz :)  I also plan to write in his name in the General if he isn't on the ballot.. I think if enough people do this we can prove the movement is not a majority for trump and regardless of what the MSM tells you, he has never been able to get about 40% nationwide. He will get annihilated in a General election

Quote from: AmericanMom on May 08, 2016, 08:10:25 AM
We received our ballots in Oregon the day before Cruz announced his suspension. We all voted for Cruz :)  I also plan to write in his name in the General if he isn't on the ballot.. I think if enough people do this we can prove the movement is not a majority for trump and regardless of what the MSM tells you, he has never been able to get about 40% nationwide. He will get annihilated in a General election

AMom, your in Oregon and I am in Washington state.  It my age I know I am living on borrowed time.    But I will not ever hold my nose and vote again.  Cruz will be my write in.   Is it a vote for Hillary?  NO it's a vote for Cruz and The Constitution of the United States.

Quote from: walkstall on May 08, 2016, 08:43:08 AM
AMom, your in Oregon and I am in Washington state.  It my age I know I am living on borrowed time.    But I will not ever hold my nose and vote again.  Cruz will be my write in.   Is it a vote for Hillary?  NO it's a vote for Cruz and The Constitution of the United States.

Doctrinaire. Purely. I like you and have the greatest respect for you and this forum, but you have articulated the very thing that the 'Crats have been dreaming of since the day their 2016 campaign began - a divided GOP that refuses to stand united against the 'Crat candidate because of fractious, DOCTRINAIRE divisions in their own ranks.

Sure, it FEELS good to "take a stand" but the strategic effect this indulgence in feelings produces is to hand victory to Hillary Clinton.

Long ago, before the primary process began, I realized that there was a best scenario and a worst scenario for my candidate. It was Scott Walker first, then Cruz. I decided that I would follow the Buckley Rule regardless of who the nominee was, regardless of my own feelings. I trust the wisdom of the Buckley Rule far more than my own feelings or personal judgment.

I derive my good feelings, my PATRIOTIC feelings, from knowing that I fought the good fight and chose the path that was most likely to win the war, not the path that was the most gratifying to me personally.

Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on May 09, 2016, 06:59:57 AM
Doctrinaire. Purely. I like you and have the greatest respect for you and this forum, but you have articulated the very thing that the 'Crats have been dreaming of since the day their 2016 campaign began - a divided GOP that refuses to stand united against the 'Crat candidate because of fractious, DOCTRINAIRE divisions in their own ranks.

Sure, it FEELS good to "take a stand" but the strategic effect this indulgence in feelings produces is to hand victory to Hillary Clinton.

Long ago, before the primary process began, I realized that there was a best scenario and a worst scenario for my candidate. It was Scott Walker first, then Cruz. I decided that I would follow the Buckley Rule regardless of who the nominee was, regardless of my own feelings. I trust the wisdom of the Buckley Rule far more than my own feelings or personal judgment.

I derive my good feelings, my PATRIOTIC feelings, from knowing that I fought the good fight and chose the path that was most likely to win the war, not the path that was the most gratifying to me personally.

What makes you so certain the GOPe is not the Dim party in disguise?
If you think supporting Trump against Hillary is somehow fighting Progressivism, is akin to picking a turd up by the clean end.

Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on May 09, 2016, 06:59:57 AM
Sure, it FEELS good to "take a stand" but the strategic effect this indulgence in feelings produces is to hand victory to Hillary Clinton.

So tell us what you KNOW that Trump will do in office if elected.

I believe him to be dangerous for the country.  He knows nothing about our geo-political history and how that affects us today.

The last person I want in office is someone who shoots first and damned the consequences.  I don't want a trade war with China.  The man may be able to make real estate deals, (many of which are underhanded and suspect) but I have zero confidence he can parlay that into being a good President.