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Title: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 06:36:46 AM
https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/ted-cruz-claims-multiple-grounds-to-impeach-joe-biden/

"When asked about the possibility of impeaching the president, Cruz said, "I do think there's a chance of that."

"Whether it's justified or not, Democrats weaponized impeachment," the senator added."

I think it would  be a  horrible  idea for  reps to take the house and then impeach Biden. Its the  only thing that would make  him for  sympathetic. Investigate? Sure. Even if they come  up with a  legal and easily  proven reason to impeach him the  votes wont  be there  in the senate to convict.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 07:25:39 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 06:36:46 AMhttps://nypost.com/2022/01/04/ted-cruz-claims-multiple-grounds-to-impeach-joe-biden/

"When asked about the possibility of impeaching the president, Cruz said, "I do think there's a chance of that."

"Whether it's justified or not, Democrats weaponized impeachment," the senator added."

I think it would  be a  horrible  idea for  reps to take the house and then impeach Biden. Its the  only thing that would make  him for  sympathetic. Investigate? Sure. Even if they come  up with a  legal and easily  proven reason to impeach him the  votes wont  be there  in the senate to convict.

I agree. If there is no chance of conviction it becomes a waste of time and a distraction. The House can do investigations and serve the same purpose of exposing this administration.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Possum on January 05, 2022, 07:29:11 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 06:36:46 AMhttps://nypost.com/2022/01/04/ted-cruz-claims-multiple-grounds-to-impeach-joe-biden/

"When asked about the possibility of impeaching the president, Cruz said, "I do think there's a chance of that."

"Whether it's justified or not, Democrats weaponized impeachment," the senator added."

I think it would  be a  horrible  idea for  reps to take the house and then impeach Biden. Its the  only thing that would make  him for  sympathetic. Investigate? Sure. Even if they come  up with a  legal and easily  proven reason to impeach him the  votes wont  be there  in the senate to convict.
Any investigation will show Biden has violated the constitution and would be found guilty of such. Yet you think he should not be brought to trial? Is he that special or are there that many rinos who will vote whit the democrats?
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 09:11:26 AM
Quote from: Possum on January 05, 2022, 07:29:11 AMAny investigation will show Biden has violated the constitution and would be found guilty of such. Yet you think he should not be brought to trial? Is he that special or are there that many rinos who will vote whit the democrats?

It doesn't take any RINO's not to convict as it takes 67 votes to convict.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Bronx on January 05, 2022, 10:00:39 AM
If there is an impeachable offense than congress must impeach. Impeachment brings out all the evidence for the American people to see.

IMO....when the democrats brought out impeachment charges against President Trump the American people was able to see the truth at hand and made the democrats look like Fido's asshole with their chumped up charges. IMO....a lot of Blue Dog democrats got "Red Pilled".
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
Quote from: Bronx on January 05, 2022, 10:00:39 AMIf there is an impeachable offense than congress must impeach. Impeachment brings out all the evidence for the American people to see.

IMO....when the democrats brought out impeachment charges against President Trump the American people was able to see the truth at hand and made the democrats look like Fido's asshole with their chumped up charges. IMO....a lot of Blue Dog democrats got "Red Pilled".

Will it really "brings out  all the evidence for the  American people to see"? Or, will it  be  blacked  out by the  media  and  big tech? What  impeachment will do is  give Biden or  his dem admin something to rally around. Reps would be far  better served to not  go down the lets  impeach the  president every time the  opposite  party  holds the house.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 07:25:39 AMI agree. If there is no chance of conviction it becomes a waste of time and a distraction. The House can do investigations and serve the same purpose of exposing this administration.

I agree. I think Cruz said this to appeal to the base as  he  is  probably  going to run for  president.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Possum on January 05, 2022, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 11:04:07 AMWill it really "brings out  all the evidence for the  American people to see"? Or, will it  be  blacked  out by the  media  and  big tech? What  impeachment will do is  give Biden or  his dem admin something to rally around. Reps would be far  better served to not  go down the lets  impeach the  president every time the  opposite  party  holds the house.
The question is not will it look bad. The question is whether there is enough evidence to warrant impeachment hearings. Congress owes it to the people of the United States to see that justice is done. This is the only way to bring a corrupt president to justice. We should not worry who will see it or what the press will say, we should worry will the next generation live in a free republic.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: Possum on January 05, 2022, 12:04:02 PMThe question is not will it look bad. The question is whether there is enough evidence to warrant impeachment hearings. Congress owes it to the people of the United States to see that justice is done. This is the only way to bring a corrupt president to justice. We should not worry who will see it or what the press will say, we should worry will the next generation live in a free republic.

History is to learn from. Remember the impeachment of Clinton energized democrats. No need to repeat that mistake. The democrat party is in shambles. No need to help them rebuild.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: ldub23 on January 05, 2022, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 12:14:27 PMHistory is to learn from. Remember the impeachment of Clinton energized democrats. No need to repeat that mistake. The democrat party is in shambles. No need to help them rebuild.

Yea, impeachment  might  be the  life  jacket  Biden needs.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Possum on January 05, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 05, 2022, 12:14:27 PMHistory is to learn from. Remember the impeachment of Clinton energized democrats. No need to repeat that mistake. The democrat party is in shambles. No need to help them rebuild.
When trying to decide if impeachment proceedings should start the only concern should be for justice. Not how it looks. If there is evidence Biden committed crimes against the United States it is up to congress to do their job and investigate. We let democrats walk for various felony crimes because we do not want to look like the bad guys. Where has that got us? It has resulted in more democrats committing more felonies and a bunch of republicans too scared to do their job. And if I remember right, after Clinton was impeached it energized democrats so much a loser like Bush was elected.
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Solar on January 05, 2022, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: Possum on January 05, 2022, 02:42:57 PMWhen trying to decide if impeachment proceedings should start the only concern should be for justice. Not how it looks. If there is evidence Biden committed crimes against the United States it is up to congress to do their job and investigate. We let democrats walk for various felony crimes because we do not want to look like the bad guys. Where has that got us? It has resulted in more democrats committing more felonies and a bunch of republicans too scared to do their job. And if I remember right, after Clinton was impeached it energized democrats so much a loser like Bush was elected.
I agree! Not to mention, who takes his place? It's one thing have a complete incompetent at the helm, but replacing him with a conniving skank, or worse yet, Fuglosi?
Nah, I think Cruz is floating distractions, and forcing their media to focus on it doesn't help their cause, especially if this takes traction. :lol:
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Billy's bayonet on January 07, 2022, 05:21:01 AM
Dont fight a battle you cant win, the Dem controlled house will not vote to impeach him no matter what
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: supsalemgr on January 07, 2022, 05:22:16 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 07, 2022, 05:21:01 AMDont fight a battle you cant win, the Dem controlled house will not vote to impeach him no matter what

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Possum on January 07, 2022, 06:19:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 05, 2022, 03:11:11 PMI agree! Not to mention, who takes his place? It's one thing have a complete incompetent at the helm, but replacing him with a conniving skank, or worse yet, Fuglosi?
Nah, I think Cruz is floating distractions, and forcing their media to focus on it doesn't help their cause, especially if this takes traction. :lol:
After the midterms pelosi will be long gone.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: ldub23 on January 07, 2022, 06:36:18 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 07, 2022, 05:21:01 AMDont fight a battle you cant win, the Dem controlled house will not vote to impeach him no matter what

Cruz  is saying after reps  take the  house  in 2022. Still a  bad  idea though
Title: Re: Cruz's impeach Biden idea. Really a bad idea
Post by: Possum on January 07, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on January 07, 2022, 06:36:18 AMCruz  is saying after reps  take the  house  in 2022. Still a  bad  idea though
As of now I am neither in favor or against the house starting impeachment proceedings. However, the argument that it will make us look bad should not considered. The argument should be whether a felony was committed. Impeachment proceedings should be about justice, not a popularity contest.