Quote from: quiller on April 04, 2016, 07:44:12 AM
Noted and retained.

Howsomefreakingever here----let me specifically object to this blood-lusting misleading thread title and suggest editorial insertion of quote marks  ( " ) around the word kills.

Screw Homeland Security. Those dimwits wouldn't recognize hyperbole if it bit them and we got enough grief while Hussein's still around, as it is.

Now stop being PC literal. Libs may take offense to it, knowing it's not true, but Cons will revel in the idea of deliberate erratum.

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 07:52:41 AM

Now stop being PC literal. Libs may take offense to it, knowing it's not true, but Cons will revel in the idea of deliberate erratum.

I saw a picture today of Bonnie and Clyde's car and admit I got a bit tetchy there. 

As for PC, just how far do I go here, pointing out BORED federal halfwits are DANGEROUS halfwits, and if the Obama thugs at IRS can get down on conservatives then the DHS maroons can damn sure do so with us over a bogus charge of threatening. Come on, here---DHS hired what was LEFT after the real services had had their pick.

I can think of a whole lot of people who would be relieved if Ted Cruz challenged and successfully fought a .51-calibre musket-duel with Trump. I am fully confident he would never do so. Pistol-WHIP the hairy freak, maybe, but not punch a hole through him. That part all depends on what oozes from Trump's mouth next, or what Katrina Pierson can invent about Cruz's imaginary love-life.

 

Quote from: supsalemgr on April 04, 2016, 04:29:06 AM
Can you not accept the fact that Roe Vs Wade is not going to be overturned? As much as we might be opposed to abortion, nothing will be changed. This issue has been an albatross for republicans for 40 years. It has caused an untold number ofunnecessary GOP losses. We should be satisfied with a person who is pro-life and conducts his/her affairs with those principles that carry over to there issues.

yeah that's not prolife that's a complacent and content liberal. If he isn't going to do anything about abortion he is as good as Hillary maybe worst. All other issues really aren't that important when there's millions dying from this everyday

Quote from: Sauce on April 03, 2016, 05:32:58 PM

...Where is the loud Gong and the big hook?

That kind of sounds xenophobic. Trump is not xenophobic he's against illegal immigration. Trump is the son of an immigrant so therefore he's for immigration he's against legal immigration. I am a firm believer in legal immigration. I think the good immigrants should ONLY be the ones to be granted a path through LEGAL immigration not illegal immigration. Which is what he says he'll do. That he'll let the good ones back in. I am all for that. I am Slovene American myself and we all come from immigrants well all white americans do at least. Which is a large portion of this country. Why should we now try to change that? Just think if America did that when your family come over. You wouldn't even be discussing this.


And like I said cruz is soft on immigration the language he used in the video I posted showed what he really thinks which makes sense his father is only legal on a technicality. You can't do the same action as another and somehow be tough on someone who did the same thing as you did. Do you know how his dad even got over here? It wasn't in any way legal imo. He got amnesty basically later on. And that's why cruz talks about illegal aliens living in the shadows he wants them to get the same benefits his dad got.

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 05:36:17 AM
And every bit of it is BS rhetoric/lies!!!
What his actual plan entails is an underhanded move called "Touchback Amnesty" where they leave, but are allowed back in, jumping in line ahead of those following the law and playing by thr rules to get legal status.
http://patriotretort.com/donald-trumps-deportation-plan-touchback-amnesty/

As to the rest of your BS about Cruz, you completely ignored my links, the links that expose you as a Trump shill, or an idiot lib, your choice.

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 07:38:28 AM
Don't let the troll divert this topic to abortion, as is apparently his plan.

I'm not a troll you're just upset I'm not fooled by any of the candidates. I care about abortion. I'm not trying to argue it's a very big issue it doesn't seem cruz cares so I'm skeptical about him on that.

Seriously it's very obvious that ted cruz doesn't want to be anything but president. What he actually wants to do while president isn't known. Take a look at his speeches. They are so crafted to the point how he pauses and in the south he was preacherlike in how he delivered his speeches. Where is that now? He transforms over and over again. And I don't see a clear wqay to see who he truly is.

I am very critical of ted cruz but I actually like him more than any of the other candidates. Well I'll correct that I like what he is saying on all basis I side with him the most out of any candidate I am very critical of him because of that. Also because idk what ted cruz will be as president while I feel I know more of how Donald trump and john Kasich would be as presidents. I just have issues with that.


To me what it's gotten to is there are three boats. One is terrible the people are basically all but dead and held hostage and will be dead right away before the boat sets for sail. That's Kasich. The second boat is like half the people are hog tied and gagged and will be dead before the boat even sails. That's Trump. Then the third boat is unknown from the surface it looks like a cruise ship however you can see ropes and guns hanging around in the basement. Maybe you'll make across sea most likely you may not. That's Ted Cruz.


None are good issues. All the good boats set sail and you can't get on. You are forced to get on one of the three. They're crappy choices.

Quote from: justme21 on April 04, 2016, 11:06:41 AM
You kind of sound xenophobic. Trump is not xenophobic he's against illegal immigration. Trump is the son of an immigrant so therefore he's for immigration he's against legal immigration. I am a firm believer in legal immigration.

Straw man!!! Where did I say a thing about being afraid of immigrants?

QuoteI think the good immigrants should ONLY be the ones to be granted a path through LEGAL immigration not illegal immigration. Which is what he says he'll do. That he'll let the good ones back in. I am all for that. I am Slovene American myself and we all come from immigrants well all white americans do at least. Which is a large portion of this country. Why should we now try to change that? Just think if America did that when your family come over. You wouldn't even be discussing this.

So now you're backing Trump's Amnesty plan?

And like I said cruz is soft on immigration the language he used in the video I posted showed what he really thinks which makes sense his father is only legal on a technicality. You can't do the same action as another and somehow be tough on someone who did the same thing as you did. Do you know how his dad even got over here? It wasn't in any way legal imo. He got amnesty basically later on. And that's why cruz talks about illegal aliens living in the shadows he wants them to get the same benefits his dad got.

Let me blunt Troll, your posting of that video expose you for the Trumpaloon you truly are.
Only a Trumpaloon would fail to understand what Cruz was doing in his sabotaging of the Bill.

But it's your selective parsing of my posts to avoid exposing your inability for debate, or the fact that you were proven wrong that tells the truth about who and what you are TROLL.

You did by saying his letting the legal immigrants back is amnesty when it's not. It's legal immigration. I'm for legal immigration. Not illegal immigration.

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 11:20:01 AM
Straw man!!! Where did I say a thing about being afraid of immigrants?
So now you're backing Trump's Amnesty plan?

And like I said cruz is soft on immigration the language he used in the video I posted showed what he really thinks which makes sense his father is only legal on a technicality. You can't do the same action as another and somehow be tough on someone who did the same thing as you did. Do you know how his dad even got over here? It wasn't in any way legal imo. He got amnesty basically later on. And that's why cruz talks about illegal aliens living in the shadows he wants them to get the same benefits his dad got.

Let me blunt Troll, your posting of that video expose you for the Trumpaloon you truly are.
Only a Trumpaloon would fail to understand what Cruz was doing in his sabotaging of the Bill.

But it's your selective parsing of my posts to avoid exposing your inability for debate, or the fact that you were proven wrong that tells the truth about who and what you are TROLL.

you seem like trump to me. You have a lot in common with him. As when he doesn't agree with someone he calls people names evwen if he has no evidence of such accusations. I find him immature in that sense. You seem very similar to him so what's your problem with him?

You're not debating. You're name calling not debating. I've already said why I don't like any of the candidates and never voted for them. You seem to not comprehend that.

I explained how I feel about the three candidates. I'll paste it here. Because I feel you didn't read it.


To me what it's gotten to is there are three boats. One is terrible the people are basically all but dead and held hostage and will be dead right away before the boat sets for sail. That's Kasich. The second boat is like half the people are hog tied and gagged and will be dead before the boat even sails. That's Trump. Then the third boat is unknown from the surface it looks like a cruise ship however you can see ropes and guns hanging around in the basement. Maybe you'll make across sea most likely you may not. That's Ted Cruz.


None are good issues. All the good boats set sail and you can't get on. You are forced to get on one of the three. They're crappy choices. All of them. I'm sorry I look beyond the surface.

Quote from: justme21 on April 04, 2016, 11:14:12 AM

I'm not a troll you're just upset I'm not fooled by any of the candidates. I care about abortion. I'm not trying to argue it's a very big issue it doesn't seem cruz cares so I'm skeptical about him on that.

Seriously it's very obvious that ted cruz doesn't want to be anything but president. What he actually wants to do while president isn't known. Take a look at his speeches. They are so crafted to the point how he pauses and in the south he was preacherlike in how he delivered his speeches. Where is that now? He transforms over and over again. And I don't see a clear wqay to see who he truly is.

I am very critical of ted cruz but I actually like him more than any of the other candidates. Well I'll correct that I like what he is saying on all basis I side with him the most out of any candidate I am very critical of him because of that. Also because idk what ted cruz will be as president while I feel I know more of how Donald trump and john Kasich would be as presidents. I just have issues with that.


To me what it's gotten to is there are three boats. One is terrible the people are basically all but dead and held hostage and will be dead right away before the boat sets for sail. That's Kasich. The second boat is like half the people are hog tied and gagged and will be dead before the boat even sails. That's Trump. Then the third boat is unknown from the surface it looks like a cruise ship however you can see ropes and guns hanging around in the basement. Maybe you'll make across sea most likely you may not. That's Ted Cruz.


None are good issues. All the good boats set sail and you can't get on. You are forced to get on one of the three. They're crappy choices.

Cut the crap Lib Troll, you're as transparent as glass.
Cruz, form a Conservative POV is the candidate we've been waiting for since Reagan.
I'd suggest you do more reading than posting, my patience are running out.

I gave you solid links that prove you wrong about Cruz, and you still refuse to read them.
Your time is running out and wasting time posting BS unfounded BS on this forum is frowned upon.

Now if you want to debate. I want to ask you a few things. What is conservative about ted cruz? Name something anything and show what he's done as a senator to show he's conservative? And please don't mention the poison pill bill. Because many people who are liberal don't like citizenship for illegal immigrants. Being conservative would mean wanting the illegals deported and not even granting legal status of which it may appear he once supported. I would like to hear how ted cruz is conservative not start a fight. I actually want to know his appeal. I have other conservative beliefs that I vote on. And I am most interested in him over the 3 candidates left in the race.


Please list

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 11:20:01 AM
Straw man!!! Where did I say a thing about being afraid of immigrants?
So now you're backing Trump's Amnesty plan?

And like I said cruz is soft on immigration the language he used in the video I posted showed what he really thinks which makes sense his father is only legal on a technicality. You can't do the same action as another and somehow be tough on someone who did the same thing as you did. Do you know how his dad even got over here? It wasn't in any way legal imo. He got amnesty basically later on. And that's why cruz talks about illegal aliens living in the shadows he wants them to get the same benefits his dad got.

Let me blunt Troll, your posting of that video expose you for the Trumpaloon you truly are.
Only a Trumpaloon would fail to understand what Cruz was doing in his sabotaging of the Bill.

But it's your selective parsing of my posts to avoid exposing your inability for debate, or the fact that you were proven wrong that tells the truth about who and what you are TROLL.

Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2016, 11:31:55 AM
Cut the crap Lib Troll, you're as transparent as glass.
Cruz, form a Conservative POV is the candidate we've been waiting for since Reagan.
I'd suggest you do more reading than posting, my patience are running out.

I gave you solid links that prove you wrong about Cruz, and you still refuse to read them.
Your time is running out and wasting time posting BS unfounded BS on this forum is frowned upon.

And my links are stronger than yours. It's on tape a while back. I like to know what people say a long time ago not during election season. They are trying to sell themselves. Now if you could. Explain what issues he is actually conservative on. I'd truly appreciate it. But I think you'll likely fail.

Quote from: justme21 on April 04, 2016, 11:33:21 AM
Now if you want to debate. I want to ask you a few things. What is conservative about ted cruz? Name something anything and show what he's done as a senator to show he's conservative? And please don't mention the poison pill bill. Because many people who are liberal don't like citizenship for illegal immigrants. Being conservative would mean wanting the illegals deported and not even granting legal status of which it may appear he once supported. I would like to hear how ted cruz is conservative not start a fight. I actually want to know his appeal. I have other conservative beliefs that I vote on. And I am most interested in him over the 3 candidates left in the race.


Please list

NO! I have better things to do than educate one lib at a time.
The onus is on you to educate and elucidate yourself on the issues, however, I'll give you a starting place.

https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/