Cruz Campaign Vetting Carly for VP
Ted Cruz's presidential campaign is vetting Carly Fiorina as a potential running mate, THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned.
According to a spokeswoman for Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO and one-time presidential candidate is being vetted by Cruz's campaign.
"Normal stuff," said Sarah Isgur Flores, who served as deputy campaign manager during Fiorina's bid, when asked about the process. She added that Fiorina has met with members of the Cruz campaign and has given them financial disclosures and other documentation. Flores added that "no offers" have been made.
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Interesting.....
She would not be my first choice, but I can see where Cruz would appreciate what she brings to the table, they are much alike in many ways, particularly focus, she has the bite of a Pit bull when it comes to finishing a project and never giving up, and that would be a huge benefit to Cruz.
Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
Interesting.....
She would not be my first choice, but I can see where Cruz would appreciate what she brings to the table, they are much alike in many ways, particularly focus, she has the bite of a Pit bull when it comes to finishing a project and never giving up, and that would be a huge benefit to Cruz.
I kind of like it. It would defuse the "war against women" victim hood" pitch the dems would cry. Also, she can take on Hillary directly and let Cruz stay above the fray on issues.
Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
Interesting.....
She would not be my first choice, but I can see where Cruz would appreciate what she brings to the table, they are much alike in many ways, particularly focus, she has the bite of a Pit bull when it comes to finishing a project and never giving up, and that would be a huge benefit to Cruz.
Likely his camp sees her as the attack dog that Hillary will have a hard time using the gender card against. She's no conservative but I have to admit I did like her aggressive, no nonsense style.
Quote from: Dubinsky on April 26, 2016, 04:34:37 AM
Likely his camp sees her as the attack dog that Hillary will have a hard time using the gender card against. She's no conservative but I have to admit I did like her aggressive, no nonsense style.
Yep, that's her trademark in business. I've no doubt Cruz sees it as an asset.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2016, 06:23:36 AM
Yep, that's her trademark in business. I've no doubt Cruz sees it as an asset.
After Dole, McCain and Romney we sure need some of her style. Democrats will not know how to react to candidates not treating them with kid gloves.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 26, 2016, 07:09:31 AM
After Dole, McCain and Romney we sure need some of her style. Democrats will not know how to react to candidates not treating them with kid gloves.
:thumbsup:
Excellent point. She's worked with these people and thoroughly understands them and how to manipulate them.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 26, 2016, 07:09:31 AM
After Dole, McCain and Romney we sure need some of her style. Democrats will not know how to react to candidates not treating them with kid gloves.
I can imagine these Trump supporters suddenly turning around, and running to a Cruz/Fiorina ticket. If they like a pit bull, this is
a smart one who still has teeth. Good move on Cruz's part, float that possibility out there now, the results should be positive.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 12:03:04 PM
i think it causes too many problems. You have that whole 500k thing his superpac donated to hers and then of course the whole national enquirer thing.
If Fiorina were bringing something extremely special to the mix which would offset all these things being brought up again, just when the public was forgetting them, then maybe. It doesnt seem that way though. Plenty of other qualified candidates.
Who are you posting to....
Please learn to use the quote function when posting.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
to the entire thread on the topic of fiorina being the vp? Do you always need to quote someone?
It keep posters from the need to go back through the topic.
I told my Mom that a Cruz-Rubio ticket would be great. And she said she would prefer a Cruz-Fiorina ticket. If the reports are true, Mom's gonna be super happy! :)
Fiorina is one smart lady who would complement Cruz nicely.
Quote from: Jasmine on April 26, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
I told my Mom that a Cruz-Rubio ticket would be great. And she said she would prefer a Cruz-Fiorina ticket. If the reports are true, Mom's gonna be super happy! :)
Fiorina is one smart lady who would complement Cruz nicely.
Jas, it pays to listen to mom. :biggrin:
Quote from: walkstall on April 26, 2016, 03:42:01 PM
Jas, it pays to listen to mom. :biggrin:
Oh, no doubt. :)
Mom has always been smarter than me. But I'd support Cruz-Fiorina, Cruz-Rubio, Cruz-Kasich, Cruz-Christie, Cruz-Walker - basically, Cruz-Anybody. Cruz may not be the perfect presidential candidate, but he's close enough in my book.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 12:03:04 PM
i think it causes too many problems. You have that whole 500k thing his superpac donated to hers and then of course the whole national enquirer thing.
If Fiorina were bringing something extremely special to the mix which would offset all these things being brought up again, just when the public was forgetting them, then maybe. It doesnt seem that way though. Plenty of other qualified candidates.
I don't read the national enquirer, really don't care about pacs or super pacs. How long did the enquirer article stay a news story? Other qualified candidates... not with name recognition. Unlike Palin, Carly has name recognition in California. Could help Cruz a lot!
I'd take it to the bank that Walker will be the pick, but I'd be good with Fiorina.
Quote from: taxed on April 26, 2016, 04:14:28 PM
I'd take it to the bank that Walker will be the pick, but I'd be good with Fiorina.
Walker would be a great pick strategically, in my opinion. Picking Walker would definitely put Wisconsin very much in play. While I'd be fine with Fiorina, there's no state that she would help put in play.
Quote from: mrconservative on April 26, 2016, 04:20:55 PM
Walker would be a great pick strategically, in my opinion. Picking Walker would definitely put Wisconsin very much in play. While I'd be fine with Fiorina, there's no state that she would help put in play.
Cruz already "owns" Wisconsin.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 12:03:04 PM
i think it causes too many problems. You have that whole 500k thing his superpac donated to hers and then of course the whole national enquirer thing.
If Fiorina were bringing something extremely special to the mix which would offset all these things being brought up again, just when the public was forgetting them, then maybe. It doesnt seem that way though. Plenty of other qualified candidates.
She has more baggage than Hillary?
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
of course not but the choice for vp is not hillary and fiorina. Its fiorina and someone else. I think fiorina brings up too many old issues that cruz would rather forget about.
For instance?
Then why is she even being considered?
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 12:03:04 PM
i think it causes too many problems. You have that whole 500k thing his superpac donated to hers and then of course the whole national enquirer thing.
If Fiorina were bringing something extremely special to the mix which would offset all these things being brought up again, just when the public was forgetting them, then maybe. It doesnt seem that way though. Plenty of other qualified candidates.
I don't remember those issues.
I do remember something about job losses at Hewlett-Packard,
and Carly's Establishment connections.
I'm sure the Dems would bring those things up again.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
yup. carly brings way more negative to the table than positive.
walker would be better.
Still waiting on you to enumerate what those issues are.
Quote from: tsuke on April 26, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
yup. carly brings way more negative to the table than positive.
walker would be better.
Don't be silly, there's a reason Walker lost, and they're identical to Fiorina, he's squishy.
Oh sure, he signed great Legislation as Governor, but he did so kicking and screaming like a little girl.
While speaking with the media this morning, Cruz announced this morning that he will be making a "major announcement" at 4 PM Easten. Also while speaking with the media, Cruz spoke about what to look for in a running mate and that "he or she should be prepared to...fulfill role as president."
In my opinion, instead of saying "they should be prepared...", Cruz said "he or she should be prepared..." that gives good indication that all signs point to Carly as VP.
Quote from: mrconservative on April 27, 2016, 07:22:12 AM
While speaking with the media this morning, Cruz announced this morning that he will be making a "major announcement" at 4 PM Easten. Also while speaking with the media, Cruz spoke about what to look for in a running mate and that "he or she should be prepared to...fulfill role as president."
In my opinion, instead of saying "they should be prepared...", Cruz said "he or she should be prepared..." that gives good indication that all signs point to Carly as VP.
So you are thinking he announces Carly as his VP choice if nominated today?
Quote from: Sauce on April 27, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
So you are thinking he announces Carly as his VP choice if nominated today?
The office of Indiana Gov Mike Pence said that Pence will not be at Cruz's 4 PM rally, therefore thatll scratch a Pence endorsement off as part of the big announcement today. So yes, I believe that all signs point to Cruz announcing at 4 PM that Carly will be his VP in the event he wins the nomination at the convention.
All but a formality now:
QuoteJosh McElveen (WMUR) @JoshMcElveen
Sources confirm to myself & @jdistaso that @tedcruz intends to name @CarlyFiorina as VP pick if #GOP picks him. #nhpolitics #fitn
QuoteGary Aminoff @aminoff
Senator Ted Cruz will make an announcement this afternoon that Carly Fiorina will be his VP running mate.
Picking a VP now seems premature to me.
Isn't that usually done after the Primaries are over?
Quote from: Dori on April 27, 2016, 10:47:25 AM
Picking a VP now seems premature to me.
Isn't that usually done after the Primaries are over?
Technically they are over, Trump will never get the needed delegates, and by announcing today, Cruz steals the narrative.
Quote from: mrconservative on April 27, 2016, 08:33:04 AM
The office of Indiana Gov Mike Pence said that Pence will not be at Cruz's 4 PM rally, therefore thatll scratch a Pence endorsement off as part of the big announcement today. So yes, I believe that all signs point to Cruz announcing at 4 PM that Carly will be his VP in the event he wins the nomination at the convention.
So...we have one candidate who is announcing a woman for vp and another candidate who is shooting off his mouth alienating many women around the country. Just watch Christies wife in the background rolling her eyes when Trump says Hillary has nothing going for her other than being a woman...not that I disagree with that really. :lol:
But it gives you a good idea how women are going to respond to that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gwz5IIH6Jk
Quote from: Dori on April 27, 2016, 10:47:25 AM
Picking a VP now seems premature to me.
Isn't that usually done after the Primaries are over?
Yes, but Cruz
has to do something to change the narrative away from Trump. Theres 2 things that could do that 1) a Pence endorsement, and 2) a VP announcement. Pence is MIA right now. He is showing that he cares more about his re-election than taking a stand for Cruz and conservatism. So, the only option left is announcing a running mate should he become the nominee at the convention.
It had already leaked that Fiorina was on the short list of possible running mates being vetted. When choosing a running mate, typically that eventual person will be on the road with candidate campaigning so the candidate can get a feel for how they work with the person. Theres only been 2 viable options that have been on the trail with Cruz - Walker and Fiorina.
IMO, Cruz went with Fiorina for a few reasons - 1) it takes away, or severely hinders, Hillarys ability to play the woman card, 2) it gives Cruz a shot in the arm in California as well as possibly Washington, and 3) it gives Cruz a running mate that is more than willing to "get in the face" of Trump (right now) and Hillary (in the future). Someone who will be more than willing to take the gloves off and hit those 2 between the eyes.
Yes, while it is a bit premature to announce a VP choice at this time, Cruz has to do something to shift the narrative away from Trump right now.
Quote from: mrconservative on April 27, 2016, 10:58:06 AMYes, while it is a bit premature to announce a VP choice at this time, Cruz has to do something to shift the narrative away from Trump right now.
I can see that. It's now a media game.
Trump just gave a 45 minute speech on foreign policy, which all the talking heads are dissecting.
Trump does have a knack for getting attention, so I guess that's how to get people to pay attention to you.
Quote from: Dori on April 27, 2016, 11:20:35 AM
I can see that. It's now a media game.
Trump just gave a 45 minute speech on foreign policy, which all the talking heads are dissecting.
Trump does have a knack for getting attention, so I guess that's how to get people to pay attention to you.
Trumps also doing a full 1 hour town hall on reGreta tonight. Im sure he will attempt to say something to take attention away from Cruz's Fiorina announcement. If you're wondering "I thought Trump did a town hall with reGreta on Monday", thats cause he did but is now doing another tonight.
Quote from: tsuke on April 27, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
this is it for me. I would have preferred someone else but at least he gets a news cycle out of it. I thought Trumps foriegn policy speech was decent too so it takes away from that.
You really think his "foriegn policy" speech was decent...? You do realize Trump thinks and said the Italians were attack on 9/11 in that speech.
Trump BLURTS out 9/11 was tragic because ITALIANS were attacked in foreign policy speech!Read more: http://therightscoop.com/trump-blurts-out-911-was-tragic-because-italians-were-attacked-in-foreign-policy-speech/#ixzz473wMkmEf
Quote from: tsuke on April 27, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
i liked some of the ideas. My favorite was
"when the other side knows your not willing to walk it becomes impossible to win"
Foreign Policy means anything having to do with any country outside of the United States.
You do know that during his Foreign Policy rambling, there was not one mention, zero mention of Mexico or the wall - the main thing, the top thing that Trump is running on...?
Quote from: mrconservative on April 27, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
Foreign Policy means anything having to do with any country outside of the United States.
You do know that during his Foreign Policy rambling, there was not one mention, zero mention of Mexico or the wall - the main thing, the top thing that Trump is running on...?
It's gone. Bait and switch. Cheap Mexican labor is here to stay, they got more Trump properties to clean...
Seriously, to start billing foreign countries for our protection or anything like that - WHAT A MORON.
Putin is licking his chops, "Hey little dictator, we'll do it for nothing! Just give us a few acres for a handul of ICBMs." From the guy who ought to know, "Money
Talks Commands", these half-broke little countries rely on foreign aid.
Quote from: Bronx on April 27, 2016, 01:55:52 PMTrump BLURTS out 9/11 was tragic because ITALIANS were attacked in foreign policy speech!
What am I missing? I couldn't find any reference to "Italians".
This is a close as I could find in his speech....
"A pause for reassessment will help us to prevent the next San Bernardino or frankly, much worse. All you have to do is look at the World Trade Center and September 11th, one of the great catastrophes, in my opinion, the single greatest military catastrophe in the history of our country; worse than Pearl Harbor because you take a look at what's happened, and citizens were attacked, as opposed to the military being attacked — one of the true great catastrophes."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html?_r=0
Quote from: Dori on April 27, 2016, 04:29:18 PM
What am I missing? I couldn't find any reference to "Italians".
This is a close as I could find in his speech....
"A pause for reassessment will help us to prevent the next San Bernardino or frankly, much worse. All you have to do is look at the World Trade Center and September 11th, one of the great catastrophes, in my opinion, the single greatest military catastrophe in the history of our country; worse than Pearl Harbor because you take a look at what's happened, and citizens were attacked, as opposed to the military being attacked — one of the true great catastrophes."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html?_r=0
If you watch the video they have posted listen closely and trump makes the goof in the very beginning. He does catch himself so you have to listen carefully