Next month, June of 2015, will mark 6th year and 6th month of the administration of Barack Obama. We might call it 6/6/5 to distinguish it from next years mark, which will be 6/6/6. In June, America will be counting down from one year and six months to go on the historic administration of America's first black President.

The reference D.E.W. Line is World War Two jargon standing for Distant Early Warning Line, which was a perimeter of aircraft spotters, in the Pacific.  If the observers could spot enemy aircraft at that distance, air power would have a chance to intercept them before they reached America. I submit that we are crossing the DEW Line. This is a time to begin assessing consequences, a time to go into the mode of damage control.

I think now it would be judicious and prudent to open a discussion of possible long term consequences of actions, appointments, and policies put in place over the past years by Barack Obama as he has has gone about the business of transforming America.

There is no question in my mind that America let its guard down when it elected, then re-elected this man. We haven't seen this kind of directed leftist agenda since FDR. That was eighty years ago. Americans had forgotten what power a president possesses, if he has the will to use it and the weak and feckless Congress to allow it.  Now, that same Congress must be our greatest resource in unraveling the  entanglements, since they are closest to the problems.

This is not a legacy thread. I am looking for real actions that forecast disaster and can be undone by the next administration. This is not a softball topic. What hangs in the balance is the motivation and will of voters to get out and vote in 2016.

Right off the bat, I see, one, sabotaged efforts to control spending; and, two, aided and abetted the galvanization of the Caliphate.

Quote from: red_dirt on May 17, 2015, 07:21:47 AM
Next month, June of 2015, will mark 6th year and 6th month of the administration of Barack Obama. We might call it 6/6/5 to distinguish it from next years mark, which will be 6/6/6. In June, America will be counting down from one year and six months to go on the historic administration of America's first black President.

The reference D.E.W. Line is World War Two jargon standing for Distant Early Warning Line, which was a perimeter of aircraft spotters, in the Pacific.  If the observers could spot enemy aircraft at that distance, air power would have a chance to intercept them before they reached America. I submit that we are crossing the DEW Line. This is a time to begin assessing consequences, a time to go into the mode of damage control.

I think now it would be judicious and prudent to open a discussion of possible long term consequences of actions, appointments, and policies put in place over the past years by Barack Obama as he has has gone about the business of transforming America.

There is no question in my mind that America let its guard down when it elected, then re-elected this man. We haven't seen this kind of directed leftist agenda since FDR. That was eighty years ago. Americans had forgotten what power a president possesses, if he has the will to use it and the weak and feckless Congress to allow it.  Now, that same Congress must be our greatest resource in unraveling the  entanglements, since they are closest to the problems.

This is not a legacy thread. I am looking for real actions that forecast disaster and can be undone by the next administration. This is not a softball topic. What hangs in the balance is the motivation and will of voters to get out and vote in 2016.

Right off the bat, I see, one, sabotaged efforts to control spending; and, two, aided and abetted the galvanization of the Caliphate.

The caliphate? You are a lunatic.

I think also if someone was knowledgeable and/or looked into into it, we would find policies that  contributed to the division of the races. Most of what first comes to mind will likely blow over.
What long term policies has Obama put into place that will continue to erode racial unease?

Quote from: red_dirt on May 17, 2015, 09:10:48 AM
I think also if someone was knowledgeable and/or looked into into it, we would find policies that  contributed to the division of the races. Most of what first comes to mind will likely blow over.
What long term policies has Obama put into place that will continue to erode racial unease?

I dont think Obama put in any long term policies that will erode racial unease. 

I called you a lunatic because you referred to his Presdiency as a caliphate.

I'd be glad to give you policies that I think would if implemented help end racial unease.  I dont think Obama cares about ending racial unease any more then I thin hes a marxist or the leader of a caliphate.

Quote from: steve folkster on May 17, 2015, 09:56:15 AM
I dont think Obama put in any long term policies that will erode racial unease.

The "racial unease" as you call it, is a direct result of Obama's policies, exacerbated by his lapdog media.

Despite what the MSM will have you believe, unjustified shootings, and questionable use of force by police officers don't only happen to black males. Plenty of white males (and white females) end up on the wrong end of Justice, but you never hear about them because they can't be used to divide the country racial - a prime objective of the Obama Administration.   

QuoteI called you a lunatic because you referred to his Presdiency as a caliphate.

I think Red_Dirt was talking about Obama's incompetent foreign policy which has pissed away the achievements of the Bush Administration and allowed to rise ISIS in the Middle East - their stated goal is to reestablish the Islamic Caliphate.

QuoteI'd be glad to give you policies that I think would if implemented help end racial unease.  I don't think Obama cares about ending racial unease any more then I think he's a Marxist or the leader of a Caliphate.

Obama is undoubtedly a Marxist! His policies echo that of the old Soviet Union, and if he were ever to tell the truth, I would imagine he sees himself as America's Stalin. He doesn't see himself as a leader of the Caliphate, but I believe he views himself as a necessary element to bring about its return. 

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 17, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
The "racial unease" as you call it, is a direct result of Obama's policies, exacerbated by his lapdog media.

Despite what the MSM will have you believe, unjustified shootings, and questionable use of force by police officers don't only happen to black males. Plenty of white males (and white females) end up on the wrong end of Justice, but you never hear about them because they can't be used to divide the country racial - a prime objective of the Obama Administration.   

I think Red_Dirt was talking about Obama's incompetent foreign policy which has pissed away the achievements of the Bush Administration and allowed to rise ISIS in the Middle East - their stated goal is to reestablish the Islamic Caliphate.

Obama is undoubtedly a Marxist! His policies echo that of the old Soviet Union, and if he were ever to tell the truth, I would imagine he sees himself as America's Stalin. He doesn't see himself as a leader of the Caliphate, but I believe he views himself as a necessary element to bring about its return.

All you said and I don't know why anyone else could see it any differently.  Time has long past to give Obola any kind of benefit of doubt.     

Quote from: keyboarder on May 17, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
All you said and I don't know why anyone else could see it any differently.  Time has long past to give Obola any kind of benefit of doubt.   

No truer words have ever been said! 

I'm gratified there is some agreement on that.  I've had my suspicions, watching the left wing and the touchy feely libs, at least as early as the Arab Spring. Here it is, a few years later, and guests are appearing in print and on the radio, stating the opinion that the wool was pulled over our eyes by the Arab Spring. Then, there is the Moslem Brotherhood and Iran, and Israel.....
Talk about a Chinese fire drill! 

Let's say best case scenario, the administration changes hands  and we see a shakeup at DOD, State Dept., and Immigration. Will that be enough? Or has Obama put policies in place to defeat any measures of damage control?   That is a good place to start the assessments.   By the way, damage control can start any time.  Example, Sen. Cotton's letter to Iran cautioning them against  going too far along based on unauthorized handshake with the State Department.

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 17, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
The "racial unease" as you call it, is a direct result of Obama's policies, exacerbated by his lapdog media.
Despite what the MSM will have you believe, unjustified shootings, and questionable use of force by police officers don't only happen to black males. Plenty of white males (and white females) end up on the wrong end of Justice, but you never hear about them because they can't be used to divide the country racial - a prime objective of the Obama Administration.   

With this administration, we don't know how much is being done on purpose or how much is attributed to incompetence.  The one I keep going back to is this nationalization of local police, because that seems to have broad leftist support.  How broad? How intractable? How inevitable?
Is this a deep agenda and Obama simply using the crises to sneak it through without discussion?
I'll bet Senator Cruz and his Dad would have some choice words based on Cuba's experience.

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 17, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
I think Red_Dirt was talking about Obama's incompetent foreign policy which has pissed away the achievements of the Bush Administration and allowed to rise ISIS in the Middle East - their stated goal is to reestablish the Islamic Caliphate.

Well, that is exactly it. The parrots kept it up about "it's all Bush's fault," to cover the retreat as the vacuum was created, leaving all those soldiers and their families asking, "Was everything we did for nothing?"

Quote from: red_dirt on May 17, 2015, 12:17:09 PM
With this administration, we don't know how much is being done on purpose or how much is attributed to incompetence.  The one I keep going back to is this nationalization of local police, because that seems to have broad leftist support.  How broad? How intractable? How inevitable?
Is this a deep agenda and Obama simply using the crises to sneak it through without discussion?
I'll bet Senator Cruz and his Dad would have some choice words based on Cuba's experience.

Well, that is exactly it. The parrots kept it up about "it's all Bush's fault," to cover the retreat as the vacuum was created, leaving all those soldiers and their families asking, "Was everything we did for nothing?"

All those soldiers are definitely scratching their heads over the prospect of coming home and maybe now living next door to some that they have fought overseas.  Now their government is allowing some of these same enemies to integrate our communities, not assimilate .  It will still be a war but on our land.

Quote from: keyboarder on May 17, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
All those soldiers are definitely scratching their heads over the prospect of coming home and maybe now living next door to some that they have fought overseas. Now their government is allowing some of these same enemies to integrate our communities, not assimilate .  It will still be a war but on our land.

We are compiling the bullet points.

And is this not (the underlined) the expressed agenda of the Nation of Islam, where the Obama's went to Sunday School in Chicago?  How much of what we are seeing is unspoken black nationalism?  Nice trick, setting up your own nation within a nation, if you can get away with it. I'll take Manhattan, and Staten Island, too.

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 17, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
The "racial unease" as you call it, is a direct result of Obama's policies, exacerbated by his lapdog media.

Despite what the MSM will have you believe, unjustified shootings, and questionable use of force by police officers don't only happen to black males. Plenty of white males (and white females) end up on the wrong end of Justice, but you never hear about them because they can't be used to divide the country racial - a prime objective of the Obama Administration.   

I think Red_Dirt was talking about Obama's incompetent foreign policy which has pissed away the achievements of the Bush Administration and allowed to rise ISIS in the Middle East - their stated goal is to reestablish the Islamic Caliphate.

Obama is undoubtedly a Marxist! His policies echo that of the old Soviet Union, and if he were ever to tell the truth, I would imagine he sees himself as America's Stalin. He doesn't see himself as a leader of the Caliphate, but I believe he views himself as a necessary element to bring about its return.

Another black male was just choked to death in Texas today.  A war vet.  While I dont doubt that white males too suffer from indisrcimate force the stasticis nationwide show that black men are targeted overhwelmingly by the cops.  Youll ignore this because it is a research study and you defend it by claiming all research is garbage.

Stalin was not a communist.  If you think he was then you know even less then I thought.

Stalin was a leader who used the rhetoric of communism.  He and his cronies were super rich fat cats.  Indeed when the Soviet Union fell, and thank god it did, the former communist mkembers became the wealth captalists.

There has in my view never been a communist society in terms of the actual teachings of Marx.  Thats a good thing too.

If Obama is a Marxist, explain why the super rich funded his campaign?  Explain why since he took power the top 1 percent has gained 95 percent of the wealth overseen by him since his tenure.  Explain why he staffed his white house with banking insiders?

Explain why he is letting coprorate lawyers write the free trade agtreement and why he let the health care industry write Obamacare.

Quote from: Darth Fife on May 17, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
The "racial unease" as you call it, is a direct result of Obama's policies, exacerbated by his lapdog media.

Would it be better termed "racial dis-ease?" 

Just trying to avoid the lawsuit.

The racial divide under Obama has widened considerably. This is do in my opinion to The Obama's and Holder's massive racial chip that they carry on their shoulder. This plus the left used their skin color as a shield whenever they policies and decisions were questioned or criticized.  It worked for the first few years. When it stopped working they ramped up the racial narrative by turning against the police. This was exacerbated by the increase in poverty and unemployment in the black community. A direct result of Obama's economic policies.

Quote from: steve folkster on May 17, 2015, 01:08:39 PM
Another black male was just choked to death in Texas today.  A war vet.  While I dont doubt that white males too suffer from indisrcimate force the stasticis nationwide show that black men are targeted overhwelmingly by the cops. Youll ignore this because it is a research study and you defend it by claiming all research is garbage.

You are going to need to source that, my friend!

QuoteStalin was not a communist.  If you think he was then you know even less then I thought.

A favorite tactic of the Marxist/Communist apologist! If a adherent of their ideology is shown to be an out and out reprobate with no socially redeeming qualities, simply claim that person wasn't really a Communist and that our understanding of what Communism really is is flawed. Or we are too stupid to understand the difference.

That is kind of like saying Hitler wasn't really a NAZI!

QuoteIf Obama is a Marxist, explain why the super rich funded his campaign?  Explain why since he took power the top 1 percent has gained 95 percent of the wealth overseen by him since his tenure.  Explain why he staffed his white house with banking insiders?

Explain why he is letting corporate lawyers write the free trade agreement and why he let the health care industry write Obamacare.

The immediate aim of the Communists is the same as that of all other proletarian parties: formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political power by the proletariat.

-The Manifesto of the Communist Party

There are very few true capitalists these days. The so-called 1 - Percent who support Obama do so because they know that all they have can be taken by the Government on little more than the word of an Administration official. As a result, he and his Marxist gain that which they lust for - POWER.

Regulation, intimidation, confiscation, these are the weapons that have replaced the pitchforks and axes of the Communist Revolution! The On Percenters who support Obama are not unlike the Jews, who early on supported the NAZI Party - thinking they could control it and morph it into something benign.