Quote from: drjim893 on July 30, 2014, 08:27:57 AM
Solar,
I do not know how to use the quote function. Would appreciate help, and thanks.

Click the quote button.  It's so easy, an AGW believer can do it.

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Sun is not the sole driver of climate.

To all you who wonder why we let libs post, here ya go.  They never, ever disappoint.

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If I understand the science we do know about the topic.

Quick question, what happens if all the sea ice in all the world melts?

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When the early steel mills developed along the low lying Ohio River, their pollution hung in the air, making dark days and pollutant filled air to breathe. When industry used our rivers and  streams to dump toxic waste fishing died and our drinking water was in jeopardy. When factories closed and left behind land on which nothing would grow we had to clean up brownfields.

What does pollution have to do with the man made global warming scam?

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Today, with ocean temperatures rising some coral is in danger as are some species of water life.
Cutting down the Amazon rain forest is effecting more than the local region.

My point is, humans can and do have an effect upon the planet, and if we have an effect we can alter that effect by changing our behaviors.

You have no point.  You are sounding insane.

Quote from: drjim893 on July 30, 2014, 08:27:57 AM
Solar,
I do not know how to use the quote function. Would appreciate help, and thanks.

Sun is not the sole driver of climate. If I understand the science we do know about the topic.
When the early steel mills developed along the low lying Ohio River, their pollution hung in the air, making dark days and pollutant filled air to breathe. When industry used our rivers and  streams to dump toxic waste fishing died and our drinking water was in jeopardy. When factories closed and left behind land on which nothing would grow we had to clean up brownfields.

Today, with ocean temperatures rising some coral is in danger as are some species of water life.
Cutting down the Amazon rain forest is effecting more than the local region.

My point is, humans can and do have an effect upon the planet, and if we have an effect we can alter that effect by changing our behaviors.

Tell me, what kind of climate would the earth have if there was no sun?

Here we just this past week, set an all-time., new record for the low temp.

Said that it was actually colder, that night, than any other night on record.

That the record which was broken, had been around since back when they'd first started keeping such records in this state.


But watch out, drive that car and you'll be making it oh so hot and terrible for us all. 

Since summer temperatures have been cooler, how is that affecting last winter's snowfall; because that is the precursor of an ice age.

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2014, 08:52:19 AM
Tell me, what kind of climate would the earth have if there was no sun?

Solar, liberals don't like for one to ask that question. Because that one, lone, question destroys their entire anthro-climate change theory.

Throws it right into the circular file, with the rest of the junk science projects these liberals have latched onto in history.

(Like Eugenics but I digress)

Solar in answer:

Answer: There would be no climate, there would be no atmosphere to have a climate.

Since our parent star is in part the reason why there even IS a planet here we call Earth.

And since if we had no star, and thus no radiation or way to even create a gas.

There would be no atmosphere.

All the water on Earth would freeze and either be on the ground as snow, or on the ground as an ice sheet many hundreds of MILES and MILES and MILES thick.

Which has actually happened on Earth in it's geologic past.

Only when that one happened we did have a sun.

No we didn't have any men around to help warm things up either.

Without our parent star though...well lets just say Ut oh....

FWIW though solar the global warming nuts are correct, in about oh another 7-10 billion years from now, the sun will swell into whats called a Red Giant, at that point the Earth's orbit will be roughly like that of Mercury today.

Closer in fact as when Sol does this, the Earth will actually be within the upper atmosphere of Sol.

So in the end Global warming will destroy the planet.

It's just that no one, absolutely no one alive today, will know about it when it does happen.

Since the radiation and solar wind from Sol, will rip the Earth's atmosphere from our planet,long, long, long, long  before Sol grows into that. ;)

So ok I say fine to the libs, we'll worry about the global warming when it actually starts to happen.

In oh about another six  billion or so years.


Until that time however, the liberals just need to shut the hell up.

Mind their own business, stay out of mine and that of everyone else.

And worry about something that really and truly matters to us all.

Like whether we will have a nation to live in, in the next decades to come.

Like whether or not we the American people are going to live as free and libertine individuals, or serfs in bondage to the state.

Quote from: daidalos on July 30, 2014, 04:03:20 PM


And worry about something that really and truly matters to us all.

Like whether we will have a nation to live in, in the next decades to come.

Like whether or not we the American people are going to live as free and libertine individuals, or serfs in bondage to the state.

And that my friend, is the objective behind the AGW scam.
To steal our ability to produce.

QuoteSun is not the sole driver of climate.

Um...

Reminds me of this article:
http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/

Quote from: ConservativeMe on July 30, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Um...

Reminds me of this article:
http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/

Oh wow.

Quote from: ConservativeMe on July 30, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Um...

Reminds me of this article:
http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/

That's freakin hilarious!

Quote from: taxed on July 30, 2014, 05:14:51 PM
Oh wow.

I just skimmed the article. Honestly, I thought it was from the Onion when he posted it.
That's just sad, and to think, this guy is a physicist.

We literally could cover the entire planet with panels, every sq inch, and still maybe capture one, one trillionth of it's energy.

Quote from: ConservativeMe on July 30, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Um...

Reminds me of this article:
http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/

Swell. Anthopogenic global warming is just small potatoes now. We're on to solar cooling, from a distance of 93,000,000 miles.

Crackpots come in the most amazing variety.

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
I just skimmed the article. Honestly, I thought it was from the Onion when he posted it.
That's just sad, and to think, this guy is a physicist.

We literally could cover the entire planet with panels, every sq inch, and still maybe capture one, one trillionth of it's energy.

The Sci Fi Fans of the world buy into this stuff with no thinking.  It's unreal.

Quote from: taxed on July 30, 2014, 05:59:10 PM
The Sci Fi Fans of the world buy into this stuff with no thinking.  It's unreal.

Where is he, this purported scientists needs him?

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2014, 06:00:43 PM
Where is he, this purported scientists needs him?

His professor is giving him some more fake science to parrot.

Quote from: taxed on July 30, 2014, 06:01:58 PM
His professor is giving him some more fake science to parrot.

No, I think his professor is busy with another project at the moment.