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TAPACHULA, Mexico (AP) — A ragged army of Honduran migrants streamed through southern Mexico on Sunday heading toward the United States, after making an end-run around Mexican agents who briefly blocked them at the Guatemalan border.
They received help at every turn from sympathetic Mexicans who offered food, water and clothing. Hundreds of locals driving pickups, vans and cargo trucks stopped to let them clamber aboard.
[...] Hundreds of migrants from the caravan applied for refugee status in Mexico in the southern city of Ciudad Hidalgo.
But a far bigger group forded the Suchiate River from Guatemala to the Mexican side individually and dozens at a time, and resumed the trek at first light, marching 10 abreast on the highway.
"Si se pudo!" they chanted in Spanish — "Yes, we could!"
The throng grew even larger than when the migrants arrived at the border bridge Friday, swelling overnight to 5,000 or so. It was not immediately clear where the additional travelers came from since about 2,000 had been gathered on the Mexican side Saturday night. But people have been joining and leaving the caravan daily, some moving at their own pace and strung out in a series of columns.
Federal police monitored the caravan's progress from a helicopter and had a few units escorting it. Outside Tapachula, about 500 black-uniformed officers briefly gathered along the highway on buses and in patrol units, but they said their orders were to maintain traffic and not to stop the caravan. They moved on toward the city before the caravan reached them.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/21/growing-invasion-force-overwhelms-mexican-authorities-approximately-10000-now-traveling-through-mexico-to-u-s-southern-border/
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So what Mexico is saying is that they have NO control of there borders.
This morning's mail contained a news blurb (I lost it) which showed two "migrants" burning an American flag upon which they had painted a swastika.
I see no other way to stop this mob-- the latest iteration of the progressive bum-rushing mob- than to completely shut down the border with Mexico. Yes, we'll need deployed troops, but isn't that what those troops are assigned to do?
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
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That sign answers the question as to why they should not be allowed in the country.
Quote from: Belenus on October 22, 2018, 11:47:52 AM
This morning's mail contained a news blurb (I lost it) which showed two "migrants" burning an American flag upon which they had painted a swastika.
I see no other way to stop this mob-- the latest iteration of the progressive bum-rushing mob- than to completely shut down the border with Mexico. Yes, we'll need deployed troops, but isn't that what those troops are assigned to do?
Yeah, I saw that too and looked for it, I'm sure someone will post it shortly.
This is just more proof we need a wall, if for no other reason, than to force these armies into crossing at designated ports.
More with President Trump's tweets (two) and several comments.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrant-caravan-increase/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=criticalimpact&utm_campaign=TPI_Afternoon_Newsletter_10_22_2018&utm_content=e5252b460855fe7fa6473c7b9fa19141&source=CI
Meanwhile, do we have water cannon, non-lethal materiel in sufficient numbers to repel this mob? I guess we'll soon see, right? Tic-Toc, Tic-Toc..........
OK, now for a couple of questions!
1) Where is all the food and water to support these losers coming from? Seriously; There was a tractor trailer vehicle inching along with the mob.. those things are expensive to hire 24/7... so---?
2) Who.. who EXACTLY - started this ridiculous, stupid, guaranteed-to-fail bums' rush? Who? Anybody know?
Quote from: Belenus on October 22, 2018, 02:47:23 PM
OK, now for a couple of questions!
1) Where is all the food and water to support these losers coming from? Seriously; There was a tractor trailer vehicle inching along with the mob.. those things are expensive to hire 24/7... so---?
2) Who.. who EXACTLY - started this ridiculous, stupid, guaranteed-to-fail bums' rush? Who? Anybody know?
Soros. I have no doubt he is the moneyed interests behind this army of invaders.
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 02:55:35 PM
Soros. I have no doubt he is the moneyed interests behind this army of invaders.
This is going to backfire on him too. If the dims keep shooting themselves in the foot we going to have another ammo shortage.
Quote from: Belenus on October 22, 2018, 02:05:42 PM
More with President Trump's tweets (two) and several comments.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrant-caravan-increase/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=criticalimpact&utm_campaign=TPI_Afternoon_Newsletter_10_22_2018&utm_content=e5252b460855fe7fa6473c7b9fa19141&source=CI
Meanwhile, do we have water cannon, non-lethal materiel in sufficient numbers to repel this mob? I guess we'll soon see, right? Tic-Toc, Tic-Toc..........
Something even better and more effective. The ADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w
Quote from: s3779m on October 22, 2018, 03:05:16 PM
This is going to backfire on him too. If the dims keep shooting themselves in the foot we going to have another ammo shortage.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, this is probably one of the dumbest stunts the left could have ever devised. Supporting the invasion of a land where citizens are negatively affected by allowing in people of the poorest nations as well as violent culturally speaking as to gangs and cartels.
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, this is probably one of the dumbest stunts the left could have ever devised. Supporting the invasion of a land where citizens are negatively affected by allowing in people of the poorest nations as well as violent culturally speaking as to gangs and cartels.
If they want to be here so bad, why are they burning our flag and waving theirs?
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 03:06:39 PM
Something even better and more effective. The ADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w
That's kind of neat but I think we should take a lesson from the banks exploding dye packs. Send a crop duster over them filled with unwastable glow in the dark ink and lace it with something really foul smelling! If they do manage to bust the boarder no one well let them into their cars or trucks!
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 11:02:49 AM
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Is this a photo of the mob that is trying to enter Mexico from Guatemala?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/migrant-caravan-stopped-mexico-guatemala-border-181020055643727.html
QuoteSpeaking in Scottsdale, Arizona on Friday, Trump said he "appreciated very much" Mexico's efforts to stop the caravan.
"If that doesn't work out, we're calling up the military - not the (National) Guard - we're calling up the military," he told reporters. "They're not coming into this country."
Trump has also threatened to cut off aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador - some of the poorest and most violent countries in the Americas - if they fail to prevent undocumented immigrants from heading to the US.
Sometimes Trump is right. This is one of those times.
Quote from: Ranb on October 22, 2018, 05:44:04 PM
Is this a photo of the mob that is trying to enter Mexico from Guatemala?
Yes.
I think that photo has been around for a long time, since 2010 at least. https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/give-us-free-healthcare-you-owe-us-america-we-will-shoot-more-police/
Where did you find it?
Quote from: Ranb on October 23, 2018, 05:09:42 AM
I think that photo has been around for a long time, since 2010 at least. https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/give-us-free-healthcare-you-owe-us-america-we-will-shoot-more-police/
Where did you find it?
It was posted way down the page from the article I linked, it could have been a post, I thought it was buried in the article.
But if it's old, then just ignore it.
But since they're burning flags of the host country they're seeking to enter, there really isn't all that much difference in the message, these people were paid to come here by Marxists Hell bent on destroying this country, there's no denying the truth, so would that pic really be a stretch to assume it came from this invasion?
Give them time, I'm sure there will be something similar.
NEW PERSPECTIVE-
Bob contemplates the several 'MYSTERIES' of that migration invasion.
For example,"..(paraphrasing) .. these walkers average 71 miles/day... a good army does about 23 miles/day.." WTF, right?
http://www.lonsberry.com/writings.cfm?story=4213
QuoteBecause this caravan is nothing more than a bunch of political shit.
That pretty much sums up this invading hoard of illegal aliens.
I'm not sure if these migrating immigrants expect to just cross the border without incident, but I have complete faith in Trump and the US government to stop them in their tracks. With that being said I can only hope this is handled with appropriate measures and non lethal avenues.
They just want to be free. Oh wait...
Seven Kids Rescued from Human Smugglers in Caravan
Judicial Watch said it obtained information from Guatemalan authorities about the children, who were saved on October 18
Guatemalan authorities rescued seven unaccompanied minors from human smugglers working inside the migrant caravan, which is right now marching from southern Mexico toward the U.S. border, according to Judicial Watch.
The group said it obtained the information and photos from Guatemalan authorities revealing that they'd saved the children. The smugglers are said to have been arrested, and a criminal investigation into the caravan is ongoing.
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/10/seven-kids-rescued-from-human-smugglers-in-caravan/
Quote from: Solar on October 22, 2018, 03:06:39 PM
Something even better and more effective. The ADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9p5naCkz2w
Naaanh. I prefer air strikes. A lot more fun.
https://youtu.be/NERtsByXNH8
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Why not build a few Federal prisons along the border, to replace all our Maximum security prisons, with a 6 foot wall on the Mexican side and a 20 foot wall with razor wire on the U.S. side and house all our most violent criminals there. An annual role call could be made to assure none have escaped to Mexico.
The could be called Mexican security prisons.
There are currently 1719 State prisons and 102 Federal prisons, a total of 1821 while the Mexican U.S. border is 1933 miles. Much of it could be secured by the Federal government taking a narrow swath of land in each border State and moving all our prisons to along the border. Collectivize all our prisons and maybe even some costs of running them could be achieved as a result?
Actually we might need the military if any of this is true
https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/mexico-warns-of-molotov-cocktails-guns-in-2nd-caravan/
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/migrants-assault-on-barrier-leaves-one-dead/
Notice the sources on these stories, The MSM is NOT reporting on this....you can guess why
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on October 31, 2018, 05:28:38 AM
Actually we might need the military if any of this is true
https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/mexico-warns-of-molotov-cocktails-guns-in-2nd-caravan/
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/migrants-assault-on-barrier-leaves-one-dead/
Notice the sources on these stories, The MSM is NOT reporting on this....you can guess why
A friend of mine told me about this yesterday sharing the Mexican news daily article with me. I feel it was only a matter of time before these migrants, who realize now that the US is not going to let them in, would take a drastic measure like this. While I want to discredit it, it just seems to fit the bill all too well. While the last thing anyone wants is bloodshed on the border, if they leave us no choice then it may be unavoidable.
Do you REALLY believe that President Trump didn't expect/project the people leaving Venezuela to migrate north when he decided to worsen their conditions with MORE 2017 sanctions that have lead to the migration?. I see a "strategic political party chess move" to fan the flames and fire of American fears of "those criminals/bad people coming to invade/ take/ destroy our way of living in America"... In my personal opinion American leaders look more like Global invaders/disruptors posing as Nationalist of The Republican Party.
The big question is how long will the Mexican government tolerate the lawlessness?
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 31, 2018, 07:39:17 AM
The big question is how long will the Mexican government tolerate the lawlessness?
In my eyes, it seems like they are aiding them if anything. The Mexican government has effectively done nothing to try and stop these migrants from marching through their country, and it's having an adverse effect on not only their sovereignty but the sovereignty of the United States.
Quote from: claudedawg on October 31, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
Do you REALLY believe that President Trump didn't expect/project the people leaving Venezuela to migrate north when he decided to worsen their conditions with MORE 2017 sanctions that have lead to the migration?. I see a "strategic political party chess move" to fan the flames and fire of American fears of "those criminals/bad people coming to invade/ take/ destroy our way of living in America"... In my personal opinion American leaders look more like Global invaders/disruptors posing as Nationalist of The Republican Party.
So let me see if I got this right?
The Marxists take over South American countries, steal the wealth, start civil war, the Dims in this country offer them free everything under the sun, including citizenship, stomping on those doing it the legal way, and
Your premise is, this is all Trump's fault because he is trying to protect our borders from an army of invaders that willfully break our laws?
You do know, the legal process involves going to a US consulate, filing the proper papers for entry, and more than like being approved, right?
But you stick with the leftist talking points, they're certainly a winner. :rolleyes:
Quote from: claudedawg on October 31, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
Do you REALLY believe that President Trump didn't expect/project the people leaving Venezuela to migrate north when he decided to worsen their conditions with MORE 2017 sanctions that have lead to the migration?. I see a "strategic political party chess move" to fan the flames and fire of American fears of "those criminals/bad people coming to invade/ take/ destroy our way of living in America"... In my personal opinion American leaders look more like Global invaders/disruptors posing as Nationalist of The Republican Party.
You don't think holes like Venezuela have any responsibility to fix their own mess ? And that they have some sort of right to support / free stuff from USA ?
Sanctions is only the absence of kissing their asses and propping them up; it's not actually "doing something to them". They are supposed to be able to have a damned economy and country without the handouts from Uncle Sugar.
They've gone from an outstanding economy / society to total trash in about 10 years. USA had zero to do with that screwup. It was all done by socialists who used socialism to take over, who then lived (and still live) like the English royal family while everybody else slid into starvation and filth.
Brilliant, let's bash capitalism and praise socialism ....... while bitching that capitalism won't bail out the failed socialism. As if spoken by a 10-year-old.
Quote from: claudedawg on October 31, 2018, 07:38:16 AM
Do you REALLY believe that President Trump didn't expect/project the people leaving Venezuela to migrate north when he decided to worsen their conditions with MORE 2017 sanctions that have lead to the migration?. I see a "strategic political party chess move" to fan the flames and fire of American fears of "those criminals/bad people coming to invade/ take/ destroy our way of living in America"... In my personal opinion American leaders look more like Global invaders/disruptors posing as Nationalist of The Republican Party.
Why should Trump care one whit about Venezuela which has acted like an enemy country for the past 18 years? Threatening to allow an even greater enemy (Iran) to park missiles in their country and trying their best to screw the USA economically with their influence in OPEC?
Speaking of Oil, how can a Country pumping out Billions of Oil revenue find itself in the fix it is in now? Another third world, COMMUNIST Tyrant who likely has billions stashed away in some off shore bank account waiting for the day when he can loot whatis left of the treasury entirely and flee before they do a "mussolini" on him.
Yeah, I know everything is America's fault.
Who's funding the illegals? If you said Soros, you are probably correct.
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Mastercard and George Soros announced plans to explore creating a social enterprise to apply commercial strategies to deliver a positive impact on society. Called Humanity Ventures, the enterprise could catalyze and accelerate economic and social development for vulnerable communities around the world, especially refugees and migrants.
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https://newsroom.mastercard.com/press-releases/mastercard-and-george-soros-to-explore-private-sector-solutions-to-societal-challenges/