Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2021, 08:58:02 AM
You need to understand the distinction between police and sheriff.

Two different mindsets.

Police are "doing a job"
Sheriff is "protecting the community"

Quote from: ldub23 on April 09, 2021, 05:04:30 AM
Im not a  leftist but  its easy to see more and  more cops taking  on the enforcement duties  of the  communist  left. I will never trust an armed group of people given power over me.

Who do you want to enforce the laws?

Quote from: Possum on April 09, 2021, 12:18:44 PM
Who do you want to enforce the laws?

Personally... I'm open to the idea of the SHERIFF deputizing and granting immunity to a few honest citizens, now and then.... kinda "git 'er done!" justice.   

Quote from: Possum on April 09, 2021, 12:18:44 PM
Who do you want to enforce the laws?

Thats the question isnt  it. The FBI for instance should be eliminated  in my opinion. I would rather  have  no police than have a  leftist gestapo at any level.

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 11:21:33 AM
The majority of conservatives have supported continuing to expand and expand and expand the power of law enforcement in the name of safety, but it has now gotten to the point where the chickens are coming home to roost in a number of ways.

You don't seem to understand the meaning of "Conservative".

I would think a true  conservative would want as little  policing as  possible.

Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2021, 04:10:11 PM
You don't seem to understand the meaning of "Conservative".

You don't think the "thin blue line" is primarily a conservative initiative?

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 05:12:26 PM
You don't think the "thin blue line" is primarily a conservative initiative?

I think you're serious... are you?     What would make one *think* TBL was part of a conservative movement?     Political or non-political movements can be for a CAUSE, like TEA (Taxed Enough Already), and supported across the entire political spectrum, right? 

Am in missing a point here...?   Being a big government Liberal doesn't mean you're for or against law enforcement - I'd suggest it's what *kind* of selective enforcement they want & *who* they selectively screen to do it.

Someday... I expect we'll see foreign troops taking part of the role as federal law enforcement - under a RINO or Democrat President.  Doesn't matter what the Constitution says, desperate people will do crazy things.

Quote from: ldub23 on April 09, 2021, 04:26:36 PM
I would think a true  conservative would want as little  policing as  possible.

A true conservative supports law and Order, Justice under the constitution and National security....including border security.

All policing is relative, an inner crime ridden urban environment is going to need a greater amount of policing than cactus corners in stump jump county.

Also there is a disturbing trend by the left to turn police into REGULATORS....those who enforce regulations rather than the criminal code

Quote from: Hoofer on April 09, 2021, 05:24:11 PM
I think you're serious... are you?     What would make one *think* TBL was part of a conservative movement?     Political or non-political movements can be for a CAUSE, like TEA (Taxed Enough Already), and supported across the entire political spectrum, right? 

Am in missing a point here...?   Being a big government Liberal doesn't mean you're for or against law enforcement - I'd suggest it's what *kind* of selective enforcement they want & *who* they selectively screen to do it.

Someday... I expect we'll see foreign troops taking part of the role as federal law enforcement - under a RINO or Democrat President.  Doesn't matter what the Constitution says, desperate people will do crazy things.

For the past 6 months to a year, whenever I seen a thin blue line sticker, it's almost always been paired with a trump sticker.

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 05:12:26 PM
You don't think the "thin blue line" is primarily a conservative initiative?

You are trying to equate the support of law and order with growth of the system. These two are in no way connected.
One other point. Personally, I never liked the idea of defacing the American flag, and to do it primarily in support of "police departments."

I'm a fan of Constitutionally elected officers, not appointed Mayors yes men.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 09, 2021, 06:04:12 PM
A true conservative supports law and Order, Justice under the constitution and National security....including border security.

All policing is relative, an inner crime ridden urban environment is going to need a greater amount of policing than cactus corners in stump jump county.

Also there is a disturbing trend by the left to turn police into REGULATORS....those who enforce regulations rather than the criminal code

Whose law and whose order? Cops will enforce communism. When i see a cop now i first think dictatorial prick. Its not far away when cops main task wil be to police, restrict, and round up conservatives. Justice under the constitution is rapidly becoming a joke and clarence thomas's death or retirement will bring the constitution to a quick end. There was a whole damn lot  of  law and  order  in nazi germany and stalinist russia. No thanks