Quote from: red_dirt on April 19, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Over stated in my failing memory. I was thinking of one of the 2007 votes. In retrospect, many now feel Pelosi and Reid were cutting funding for the war in order to make it more likely Barack Obama would be elected and/or the House would be returned to the Democrats.
The attached NY Times article shows how close the vote was in 1991, and how divided along party lines.

There have been a number of evenly split votes on the wars in the Middle East. The efforts of the Democrats to lose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan peaked during the period 2006, after voters had handed Democrats the House, to the elections of  2010, when voters gave it back to the GOP. From  2012 to 2014, the House again fell into Democratic hands. Those were the years Pelosi and Reid ran the action in Congress while Obama did what he could as chief. Those were the withdrawal years, the years which led to the present situation.

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Republicans have controlled the house since 2010! 2012 and 2014  we have been in control!

If Jeb were to declare as a democrat, think he could give Hillary a run in the primaries?

Quote from: zewazir on April 19, 2015, 08:37:36 PM
If Jeb were to declare as a democrat, think he could give Hillary a run in the primaries?

That would be a great move!! Funny if he beat her!!

Quote from: redbeard on April 19, 2015, 07:12:34 PM
Republicans have controlled the house since 2010! 2012 and 2014  we have been in control!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29

Right you are. I mis-read that chart at the bottom of this page. That little triangle shows the increase
or decrease. In 2012 the D gained back 6 of the 62 seats lost in the historic 2010 mid terms. Why do I keep thinking of Nancy Pelosi as leader of a House Majority?

Quote from: red_dirt on April 19, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Over stated in my failing memory. I was thinking of one of the 2007 votes. In retrospect, many now feel Pelosi and Reid were cutting funding for the war in order to make it more likely Barack Obama would be elected and/or the House would be returned to the Democrats.
The attached NY Times article shows how close the vote was in 1991, and how divided along party lines.

There have been a number of evenly split votes on the wars in the Middle East. The efforts of the Democrats to lose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan peaked during the period 2006, after voters had handed Democrats the House, to the elections of  2010, when voters gave it back to the GOP. From  2012 to 2014, the House again fell into Democratic hands. Those were the years Pelosi and Reid ran the action in Congress while Obama did what he could as chief.  Those were the withdrawal years, the years which led to the present situation.

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Thanks. I figured it was an oversight.
I only asked for clarification, because our audience relies upon us for facts, so it's important we do our best to be as accurate as possible..
I'd hope that someone would question me as well if I ever makes errors in facts, and I'm sure I have, being dyslexic I tend to invert nnumbers all the time.

Quote from: zewazir on April 19, 2015, 08:37:36 PM
If Jeb were to declare as a democrat, think he could give Hillary a run in the primaries?

Inside the democrat party is the only place he would be considered a conservative.

According to the Constitution, Obozo can appoint a chimp to any office but that doesn't mean that the appointment is automatic. Article 2 section 2 however does stipulate that he can do so with the advise and consent of the Senate, as it does for treaties.

Quote from: Solar on April 20, 2015, 05:36:17 AM
Thanks. I figured it was an oversight.
I only asked for clarification, because our audience relies upon us for facts, so it's important we do our best to be as accurate as possible..
I'd hope that someone would question me as well if I ever makes errors in facts, and I'm sure I have, being dyslexic I tend to invert numbers all the time.

Thank you.  Pointing out those errors is  not only welcome, but mandatory.  That's how we learn. Intentional deception? Well, that's another matter.

On that note, There is ample evidence on Loretta Lynch to reject that nomination.  It goes further. The nomination of Loretta Lynch is an outrage.

BTW, after catching on, I spent most of my working life intentionally avoiding interest or discussion of Washington. I found Washington actually detracts from job effectiveness and productivity . I still feel that way, but now I am retired. Reagan had it right, "Washington, get out of the way." That even goes for our military leaders and our men and women in uniform, "Out of the way, Barack, let them do their jobs."  I've lived through six or eight recessions. Washington never does anything to help. It usually only makes things worse.

Quote from: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 07:44:13 AM
There is ample evidence on Loretta Lynch to reject that nomination.

It goes further. the nomination of Loretta Lynch is an outrage.

There is ample evidence to object to almost 100% of Obama's appointees. Remember Van Jones.

Quote from: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 07:44:13 AM
Thank you.  Pointing out those errors is  not only welcome, but mandatory.  That's how we learn. Intentional deception? Well, that's another matter.

On that note, There is ample evidence on Loretta Lynch to reject that nomination.  It goes further. The nomination of Loretta Lynch is an outrage.

BTW, after catching on, I spent most of my working life intentionally avoiding interest or discussion of Washington. I found Washington actually detracts from job effectiveness and productivity . I still feel that way, but now I am retired. Reagan had it right, "Washington, get out of the way." That even goes for our military leaders and our men and women in uniform, "Out of the way, Barack, let them do their jobs."  I've lived through six or eight recessions. Washington never does anything to help. It usually only makes things worse.

Couldn't agree more.

Quote from: redbeard on April 19, 2015, 08:39:52 PM
That would be a great move!! Funny if he beat her!!

Given the low quality of Shrill's competition, and the general feeling of doom if she DOES get the party's nomination, it isn't just funny if Bush3 switches parties and whips her standing up. Nah, not just funny, but the door opening on RINOs finally leaving the GOP and America getting political parties with which they can more easily identify.

Quote from: quiller on April 20, 2015, 07:58:52 AM
Given the low quality of Shrill's competition, and the general feeling of doom if she DOES get the party's nomination, it isn't just funny if Bush3 switches parties and whips her standing up. Nah, not just funny, but the door opening on RINOs finally leaving the GOP and America getting political parties with which they can more easily identify.

Jeb would definitely run a better chance of winning the democratic nomination than ours! 

It is time for the RINOs to jump the (GOP) ship and board the boat (DNC) that will support them.

Quote from: kroz on April 20, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
Jeb would definitely run a better chance of winning the democratic nomination than ours! 

It is time for the RINOs to jump the (GOP) ship and board the boat (DNC) that will support them.

That's exactly how the left watered down the GOP under Newt, and leaving the DC to the Marxists.
I'd love to see the obverse happen in the GOP.

Quote from: red_dirt on April 20, 2015, 04:47:24 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29

Right you are. I mis-read that chart at the bottom of this page. That little triangle shows the increase
or decrease. In 2012 the D gained back 6 of the 62 seats lost in the historic 2010 mid terms. Why do I keep thinking of Nancy Pelosi as leader of a House Majority?

Because the media continues to treat her as if she were Speaker.