Another Arrest for Speech "Crime" in USA

Started by unver, April 16, 2021, 10:01:45 PM

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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 08:41:26 AM
I'm not dodging anything.  The assertion, based on the title, is that this woman was arrested due to an imaginary speech crime and not for assaulting/threatening someone.  I'm simply asking what that belief is based on.  The fact that the media has an agenda does not show that the assault/threats didn't happen.
What part of "I don't give a fuck.", did you not get?

The headline is a lie, therefore everything to follow is suspect! How do you not get that? Oh, that's right, young and gullible.
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Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2021, 09:06:22 AM
What part of "I don't give a fuck.", did you not get?

The headline is a lie, therefore everything to follow is suspect! How do you not get that? Oh, that's right, young and gullible.

How do you know if the headline is a lie if you don't know if she assaulted/threatened someone?
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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 08:19:34 AM
The media's desire to politicize/exploit the situation is independent of what actually happened. The media ignores black on black murder on a daily basis, but that doesn't mean the murders didn't happen.  So, while it may be absolutely true that the media is making this into a bigger deal than they normally would, because of the race/BLM factor, what makes you believe that the assault on the husband and the threats to the kid didn't happen?

So, you agree they are pushing an agenda?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 08:41:26 AM
I'm not dodging anything.  The assertion, based on the title, is that this woman was arrested due to an imaginary speech crime and not for assaulting/threatening someone.  I'm simply asking what that belief is based on.  The fact that the media has an agenda does not show that the assault/threats didn't happen.

So, you agree they are pushing an agenda?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 19, 2021, 09:44:18 AM
So, you agree they are pushing an agenda?

Of course.  All media outlets push an agenda.  Some worse than others.  Nobody watching CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc should believe they're getting objective news.
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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
Of course.  All media outlets push an agenda.  Some worse than others.  Nobody watching CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc should believe they're getting objective news.

Don't try to lump Fox in with the rest. Even in opinion shows like Hannity, you have more actual factual information. Don't know how many times I caught CNN twisting or omitting facts to support their lies.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 19, 2021, 10:34:54 AM
Don't try to lump Fox in with the rest. Even in opinion shows like Hannity, you have more actual factual information. Don't know how many times I caught CNN twisting or omitting facts to support their lies.

Fox does the same thing.  They give little attention to things their right leaning audience doesn't want to hear.  They give more attention to things their right leaning audience does want to hear and, even when presenting facts, do it with a slant and bias.  CNN and MSNBC do the same thing.  When there's a mass shooting, you'll see wall to wall coverage on CNN/MSNBC and minimal on Fox.  Fox will focus on something else.

Anyone who's watching one cable news channel, expecting the entire truth, is fooling themselves.

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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 10:52:42 AM
Fox does the same thing.  They give little attention to things their right leaning audience doesn't want to hear.  They give more attention to things their right leaning audience does want to hear and, even when presenting facts, do it with a slant and bias.  CNN and MSNBC do the same thing.  When there's a mass shooting, you'll see wall to wall coverage on CNN/MSNBC and minimal on Fox.  Fox will focus on something else.

Anyone who's watching one cable news channel, expecting the entire truth, is fooling themselves.

Please show me/us when Fox edited a video to change the context of a video.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

p1tchblack

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 19, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
Please show me/us when Fox edited a video to change the context of a video.

I don't know exactly what you're referring to.  I assume it was a video of an interview where they edited in a pause to imply that the people being asked the question couldn't quickly answer.

Whatever it is you're referring to, dishonest video editing isn't the only way to be bias and not present the entire truth.

There are others:

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

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Solar

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 09:23:43 AM
How do you know if the headline is a lie if you don't know if she assaulted/threatened someone?
You do realize we have a First Amendment, Right? :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2021, 11:51:57 AM
You do realize we have a First Amendment, Right? :rolleyes:

Of course.  I'm a big fan.  How does that apply in this situation?  I'm not saying you can SAY something...
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Solar

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 12:28:56 PM
Of course.  I'm a big fan.  How does that apply in this situation?  I'm not saying you can SAY something...
Wow, it's like reasoning with a hamster....
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Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2021, 12:40:07 PM
Wow, it's like reasoning with a hamster....

Are you saying that threatening people is ok under the First Amendment?
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Solar

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 19, 2021, 12:42:41 PM
Are you saying that threatening people is ok under the First Amendment?
No, I'm saying you are one dumb SOB!
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Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2021, 12:49:14 PM
No, I'm saying you are one dumb SOB!

I'll take your last two vague posts to mean that you have no proof to support your beliefs.
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