Has anyone noticed the pattern of those who are "targeted" by Anonymous?
Corporations... certain portions of the military... Conservative individuals and institutions...
And has anyone noticed how the seem to be everywhere all at once and have access to just about anything and everything?
I wonder, is this really the work of an individual, or a group of individuals who are just incredibly computer savvy? Really?
Has anyone noticed that the Federal Government is not really bending over backwards to try and stop these hackers?
Stay with me on this...
We all know the Government wants to control the Internet just like it controls just about everything else in this country. So far, their efforts have been foiled at every step of the way. The internet remains a wide open forum for the exchange of information and ideas. And that just drives the Statists bonkers!
What better way to get people to voluntarily accept regulation of the internet that to create a crisis - let's say a rouge "organization" hacking into people's private computer information.
Allow me to quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
The only thing I might change is the word "imaginary". I'd replace it with manufactured by the government.
Now, along with all of those questions, I've posed, indulge me as I ask just one more...
Who has a facility that can (and does) intercept every electronic communication that occurs in this, "Land of the Free"?
I would submit to the forum here, that the Government not only knows who Anonymous is/are I'd think they are on the Government payroll!
Darth
QuoteConservative individuals and institutions
Sony Conservative? :lol:
And no, I don't see the connection you're attempting to make, though you're right about govt retribution being absent, but that's only because both party's share the same goals where overbearing control is concerned.
Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2014, 02:07:03 PM
Sony Conservative? :lol:
And no, I don't see the connection you're attempting to make, though you're right about govt retribution being absent, but that's only because both party's share the same goals where overbearing control is concerned.
No... Sony, about to release a movie that insults a Marxist dictatorship...
Something a Marxist dictator wannabe (of mixed racial background) would probably be a little miffed by.
In the end, whether it is individuals working on their own, or whether the government is actually running the operation itself, is a moot point. The idea is to make the Internet out to be a very dangerous place and to the the people to demand their politicians make it a "safe" place to be.
The Government (of course) will end up deciding what the definition of "safe" is.
I'm thinking there is an "Internet 9/11" of some kind in our future and that that will be what the Government uses as an excuse to enact strict regulations as to content and access.
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
No... Sony, about to release a movie that insults a Marxist dictatorship...
Something a Marxist dictator wannabe (of mixed racial background) would probably be a little miffed by.
In the end, whether it is individuals working on their own, or whether the government is actually running the operation itself, is a moot point. The idea is to make the Internet out to be a very dangerous place and to the the people to demand their politicians make it a "safe" place to be.
The Government (of course) will end up deciding what the definition of "safe" is.
I'm thinking there is an "Internet 9/11" of some kind in our future and that that will be what the Government uses as an excuse to enact strict regulations as to content and access.
Darth
I think that's a given, the leftists hate free speech, but a move they will not succeed on for a few decades.
Watch for a tax to be the first move.
Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
I think that's a given, the leftists hate free speech, but a move they will not succeed on for a few decades.
Watch for a tax to be the first move.
Probably some kind of back door tax - a tax on corporation which provide internet access and/or do business on the internet. The sales tax thing is probably where it will start.
Darth
I'll just throw this out without too much comment, not sure this is even the organization being referred to.
I have been following the Jessica Chambers murder on topconservative and consertativetreehouse since before Anon entered the fray and before the FBI came
on board. I have not followed an event on social media, facebook and twitter, bu
do remember the Islamic fundamentalist takeover in Egypt, the one promoted by
the world press and the White House, definitely was coordinated through social media.
So, here is my info. 0Hour1 appears to be the real deal. Follow on Twitter:
#RepublicanAnon@0Hour1
#TheLastRefuge@TheLastRefuge2
#JessicaChambers
Quote from: red_dirt on December 21, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
I'll just throw this out without too much comment, not sure this is even the organization being referred to.
I have been following the Jessica Chambers murder on topconservative and consertativetreehouse since before Anon entered the fray and before the FBI came
on board. I have not followed an event on social media, facebook and twitter, bu
do remember the Islamic fundamentalist takeover in Egypt, the one promoted by
the world press and the White House, definitely was coordinated through social media.
So, here is my info. 0Hour1 appears to be the real deal. Follow on Twitter:
#RepublicanAnon@0Hour1
#TheLastRefuge@TheLastRefuge2
#JessicaChambers
What has Jessica Chambers to do with this thread?
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
Has anyone noticed the pattern of those who are "targeted" by Anonymous?
Corporations... certain portions of the military... Conservative individuals and institutions...
And has anyone noticed how the seem to be everywhere all at once and have access to just about anything and everything?
I wonder, is this really the work of an individual, or a group of individuals who are just incredibly computer savvy? Really?
Has anyone noticed that the Federal Government is not really bending over backwards to try and stop these hackers?
Stay with me on this...
We all know the Government wants to control the Internet just like it controls just about everything else in this country. So far, their efforts have been foiled at every step of the way. The internet remains a wide open forum for the exchange of information and ideas. And that just drives the Statists bonkers!
What better way to get people to voluntarily accept regulation of the internet that to create a crisis - let's say a rouge "organization" hacking into people's private computer information.
Allow me to quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
The only thing I might change is the word "imaginary". I'd replace it with manufactured by the government.
Now, along with all of those questions, I've posed, indulge me as I ask just one more...
Who has a facility that can (and does) intercept every electronic communication that occurs in this, "Land of the Free"?
I would submit to the forum here, that the Government not only knows who Anonymous is/are I'd think they are on the Government payroll!
Darth
Thats an interesting acessment, it would be just like them to create a problem that they have to fix by exerting greater control over the internet...thus communication and "free speech"
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 21, 2014, 04:23:14 PM
Thats an interesting acessment, it would be just like them to create a problem that they have to fix by exerting greater control over the internet...thus communication and "free speech"
Hmm... I think b o was talking about getting control of the net. He said something about it when he was talking about the two officers that were ambushed.
Quote from: walkstall on December 21, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Hmm... I think b o was talking about getting control of the net. He said something about it when he was talking about the two officers that were ambushed.
Here is what is interesting, the Pub House tried to get a bill through that would mandate more Govt and Big Business cooperation on matters of hacking, internet spying etc etc that would have been more efficient at stopping these types of attacks....THE DEM SENATE SHOT IT DOWN, Big Govt doesn't want to share ITS HACKING SECRETS and TRACING METHODS....I wonder why????
To recap........
DF sez "they will use NK threats & USA surrender, to justify greater internet control by Obama".
He's 100% right.
Did I miss something ? Could it be simpler for the analysts, or TP, or GOP that's not Boner / McConnell ?
It's gonna take a shitload more effort than saying "we won", now.
We see Obama, having gotten his head kicked in, in the elections.....having lost the entire debate in Trayvon- Ferguson-Garner.............
................simply announcing "this means that you should give me control of the internet, judiciary, SC, congress, etc."
Exactly WHAT, do you do against an insane POS like this ?
Just say "ho hum, whatever, don't wanna look extreme" ?
My God...........this is our final test. This SOB is just like Mao, Stalin, Ho, Fidel, Kim, Pol Pot, Chavez, WTF ever. Lunatics with a passing "theory".
Just the big prize............America.
Somebody wake TFU. Please.
LOL.........I mean, I can't make the text big enough......
As I type this, "60 Minutes" is declaring Tom Coburn the "Godfather of the Tea Party".
If we can have no effort, or "side", or "team", that can even stop the rampant, self-serving bullshitting that this illustrates....
....then forget it.
It's MSM / WH / DNC / RINO - 10,000,000...........to TP / conservatives..........ZERO.
Seriously, friends, stop bitching at me. Bitch at those who can change this 10 million to 1 condition.
The Occupy movement was supposedly Anonymous' next big step.
It's flopped. -Spectacularly. The timing was 7-or-8 months off, for a group that was supposedly hip with the campus-crowd. They tried to 'occupy' at the beginning of the college-year rather than in the final weeks of it. -And " Ooops, " football-season was a bigger deal than they realized.
Cuz it originally was planned to coincide with that Euro futbol-star who tried to get everybody to withdraw their money from banks on the same day.
Anonymous has never recovered its former hip-status, though they did play a positive role in exposing the Steubenville rape-ring.
But they're the same anti-American garbage like Wikileaks, who tried to pretend they expose avarice Worldwide... but are too spineless to attack other countries and non-US corporations.
IF the socialist in our White House atm, hadn't given away control of the Internet backbone, we could see to it with almost literally the flip of a button, that no one in NK ever has access to the internet ever again.
BUT the reality is, the Obammy gave away that control to the U.N. so now the only way to cut a nation off, is for the United States to go begging the U.N.
Despite the FACT that without the U.S. and something that was called Arpin net, there would be no internet today.
Quote from: kit saginaw on December 21, 2014, 10:15:21 PM
The Occupy movement was supposedly Anonymous' next big step.
It's flopped. -Spectacularly. The timing was 7-or-8 months off, for a group that was supposedly hip with the campus-crowd. They tried to 'occupy' at the beginning of the college-year rather than in the final weeks of it. -And " Ooops, " football-season was a bigger deal than they realized.
Cuz it originally was planned to coincide with that Euro futbol-star who tried to get everybody to withdraw their money from banks on the same day.
Anonymous has never recovered its former hip-status, though they did play a positive role in exposing the Steubenville rape-ring.
But they're the same anti-American garbage like Wikileaks, who tried to pretend they expose avarice Worldwide... but are too spineless to attack other countries and non-US corporations.
This is a very good point!
With all of its supposed tech knowledge and utilization, AnyMouse has never hacked into a Jihadist's website, or accessed data files of Al Quaeda, or the Taliban!
I guess the very real prospect of having one's head permanently detached from one's body, seems to put a damper on such activities!
Who says the Death Penalty isn't an effective deterrent!
Darth
Gordon Chang, author of "Nuclear North Korea" said on FOX that we should call out China for being complicit in these attacks. North Korea does not have an internet infrastructure. What it has is based in China and NK's most elite cyber warriors are based in the city of Chongqing China permanently, with China's knowledge.
He also said that China's new stealth aircraft is our F-35 and our technology. Guess how they got it.
Quote from: Solar on December 21, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
What has Jessica Chambers to do with this thread?
It was game on when topconservative and treehouse published social media selfies of Disciples in that county linking the gas station to ISSIS, Yemen, and organized crime through Buffalo and to New York. These revelations ripped through the Facebook community.
Anonymous entered the fray very soon after. Anonymous We Are Legion chose Twitter as the platform for its presence. Anonyomous hacked social media accounts and produced a mapping program that laid out the gang structure. When the Disciples scrubbed accounts, Anon hacked the archives. About this time, the FBI rode into town. Anon then shifted focus to financial tracking.
This can all be followed on Twitter using the names I supplied.
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
Has anyone noticed the pattern of those who are "targeted" by Anonymous?
Corporations... certain portions of the military... Conservative individuals and institutions...
And has anyone noticed how the seem to be everywhere all at once and have access to just about anything and everything?
I wonder, is this really the work of an individual, or a group of individuals who are just incredibly computer savvy? Really?
Has anyone noticed that the Federal Government is not really bending over backwards to try and stop these hackers?
Stay with me on this...
We all know the Government wants to control the Internet just like it controls just about everything else in this country. So far, their efforts have been foiled at every step of the way. The internet remains a wide open forum for the exchange of information and ideas. And that just drives the Statists bonkers!
What better way to get people to voluntarily accept regulation of the internet that to create a crisis - let's say a rouge "organization" hacking into people's private computer information.
Allow me to quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
The only thing I might change is the word "imaginary". I'd replace it with manufactured by the government.
Now, along with all of those questions, I've posed, indulge me as I ask just one more...
Who has a facility that can (and does) intercept every electronic communication that occurs in this, "Land of the Free"?
I would submit to the forum here, that the Government not only knows who Anonymous is/are I'd think they are on the Government payroll!
Darth
Darth don't know about anonymous, but I do find it odd that suddenly now. On our local news here we find a story about a former Cincy police officer. Who was fired for trying to stop another officer whom she believed was abusing a "suspect". Is now suing for severance and retirement money.
Why is it that we have heard zero about this until now?
Now when suddenly to hear that same media tell it, it's just A ok to hate the cops, everyone hates the cops, and the cops are the bad evil guys and gals.
The whole thing makes me sick.
BUT given the msm complicity with the Obammy, in perpetrating out and out lies to the American people in the past.
And
Given The Obammy has taken other plays out the Nazi party handbook.
And
Given that The Obammy in the past has called for nationalizing the police, arming them as well as the military, training them as well as we do our military, and oh yeah, have them answer to the President and the President alone.
I so find it odd that this story only now suddenly comes to light.
Quote from: Dori on December 22, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
Gordon Chang, author of "Nuclear North Korea" said on FOX that we should call out China for being complicit in these attacks. North Korea does not have an internet infrastructure. What it has is based in China and NK's most elite cyber warriors are based in the city of Chongqing China permanently, with China's knowledge.
He also said that China's new stealth aircraft is our F-35 and our technology. Guess how they got it.
Probably true, because information is for-sale on their border as well as for smuggled goods like cellphones;
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/category/economic-reform/black-markets/ (http://www.nkeconwatch.com/category/economic-reform/black-markets/)
If the U.S. is behind these recent outage of North Korea's Internet, I'd be willing to give Obama props for that!
:cool:
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 25, 2014, 01:10:19 PM
If the U.S. is behind these recent outage of North Korea's Internet, I'd be willing to give Obama props for that!
:cool:
Darth
A pimple on an elephant's ass. Do something significant like arming the Kurds to fight ISIS.
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
Has anyone noticed the pattern of those who are "targeted" by Anonymous?
Corporations... certain portions of the military... Conservative individuals and institutions...
And has anyone noticed how the seem to be everywhere all at once and have access to just about anything and everything?
I wonder, is this really the work of an individual, or a group of individuals who are just incredibly computer savvy? Really?
Has anyone noticed that the Federal Government is not really bending over backwards to try and stop these hackers?
Stay with me on this...
We all know the Government wants to control the Internet just like it controls just about everything else in this country. So far, their efforts have been foiled at every step of the way. The internet remains a wide open forum for the exchange of information and ideas. And that just drives the Statists bonkers!
What better way to get people to voluntarily accept regulation of the internet that to create a crisis - let's say a rouge "organization" hacking into people's private computer information.
Allow me to quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
The only thing I might change is the word "imaginary". I'd replace it with manufactured by the government.
Now, along with all of those questions, I've posed, indulge me as I ask just one more...
Who has a facility that can (and does) intercept every electronic communication that occurs in this, "Land of the Free"?
I would submit to the forum here, that the Government not only knows who Anonymous is/are I'd think they are on the Government payroll!
Darth
These are good points. I always thought of Anonymous as an anti-capitalist, pro communist initiative that received money from people like George Soros. I am betting there is big money riding on America's going over the cliff -- buy America short and then do what you can to speed up the process. It is a win win, really. One scenario, no crash, but American taxpayers work another 8 out of 52 to pay interest on the bonds, held by global bankers and Chinese. Scenario Two. there is a crash and all the short sellers on Wall Street break the bank.
Either way, crazies like Obama. Bush, and Clinton in the WH is a plus.
I was shocked when Amnonymous, or spmeone claiming to be (how's that?)
jumped into the jessica chambers case. Your post provides me woith a new outlook as I
follow that development.
Quote from: red_dirt on December 26, 2014, 12:25:46 PM
These are good points. I always thought of Anonymous as an anti-capitalist, pro communist initiative that received money from people like George Soros. I am betting there is big money riding on America's going over the cliff -- buy America short and then do what you can to speed up the process. It is a win win, really. One scenario, no crash, but American taxpayers work another 8 out of 52 to pay interest on the bonds, held by global bankers and Chinese. Scenario Two. there is a crash and all the short sellers on Wall Street break the bank.
Either way, crazies like Obama. Bush, and Clinton in the WH is a plus.
I was shocked when Amnonymous, or spmeone claiming to be (how's that?)
jumped into the jessica chambers case. Your post provides me woith a new outlook as I
follow that development.
That's the thing, who is anonymous? Is it one group, or is it hundreds of different groups using the moniker as a way of avoiding govt detection, while being able to claim they got caught the first time they hacked Fed computers?
Point is, one anonymous may be an entirely different group with an entirely different focus/agenda, so I wouldn't simply assume there is only one anonymous in existence.
I too wondered about the Soros connection at one time.
Quote from: Solar on December 26, 2014, 12:36:38 PM
That's the thing, who is anonymous? Is it one group, or is it hundreds of different groups using the moniker as a way of avoiding govt detection, while being able to claim they got caught the first time they hacked Fed computers?
Point is, one anonymous may be an entirely different group with an entirely different focus/agenda, so I wouldn't simply assume there is only one anonymous in existence.
I too wondered about the Soros connection at one time.
Many of the anonymous network members are private individuals all over the world, ranging from people with good hacking skills and just people with ping cannons being involved for personal reasons. From the little I have read they range from libertarians too anarcho-syndicalists. But I don't really know as this is only what I would Call lower tier information.
I wouldn't be surprised if many or all of the top members of anonymous are on the government payroll as Darth suggested, it reminds me of the Government 2.0 movement in United Kingdom where government employees, mostly IT administrators but also officials creates intentional bugs, problems and delays with the infrastructure in order to create not just a greater demand for their own expertize but also internal and external demands for reforming the government. Revolution from within.
Quote from: Mountainshield on December 26, 2014, 12:49:03 PM
Many of the anonymous network members are private individuals all over the world, ranging from people with good hacking skills and just people with ping cannons being involved for personal reasons. From the little I have read they range from libertarians too anarcho-syndicalists. But I don't really know as this is only what I would Call lower tier information.
I wouldn't be surprised if many or all of the top members of anonymous are on the government payroll as Darth suggested, it reminds me of the Government 2.0 movement in United Kingdom where government employees, mostly IT administrators but also officials creates intentional bugs, problems and delays with the infrastructure in order to create not just a greater demand for their own expertize but also internal and external demands for reforming the government. Revolution from within.
Exactly the point. It tends to run the full spectrum, from anarchist/commie, to Libertarians, and everything in between.
Kind of coincidental, in the Chambers case Anonymous hacked gang members Facebook accounts and text conversations, then announced they were proceeding to follow the money, ostensibly by hacking the bank accounts. Who, other than the Utah Data Center could have this ability?
Suddenly, shelving the 4th becomes "a good thing." Darth could be on to something.
Here is a summary of some things that have come out of this investigation:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/)
Quote from: red_dirt on December 27, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Here is a summary of some things that have come out of this investigation:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/)
So, Jessica Chambers hanged out With Vice Lords and or terrorist Affiliated Networks?
This Jessica Chambers reminds me of who killed Laura Palmer, with even darker plotline :blink:
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 21, 2014, 01:57:46 PM
Has anyone noticed the pattern of those who are "targeted" by Anonymous?
Corporations... certain portions of the military... Conservative individuals and institutions...
And has anyone noticed how the seem to be everywhere all at once and have access to just about anything and everything?
I wonder, is this really the work of an individual, or a group of individuals who are just incredibly computer savvy? Really?
Has anyone noticed that the Federal Government is not really bending over backwards to try and stop these hackers?
Stay with me on this...
We all know the Government wants to control the Internet just like it controls just about everything else in this country. So far, their efforts have been foiled at every step of the way. The internet remains a wide open forum for the exchange of information and ideas. And that just drives the Statists bonkers!
What better way to get people to voluntarily accept regulation of the internet that to create a crisis - let's say a rouge "organization" hacking into people's private computer information.
Allow me to quote H.L. Mencken...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
The only thing I might change is the word "imaginary". I'd replace it with manufactured by the government.
Now, along with all of those questions, I've posed, indulge me as I ask just one more...
Who has a facility that can (and does) intercept every electronic communication that occurs in this, "Land of the Free"?
I would submit to the forum here, that the Government not only knows who Anonymous is/are I'd think they are on the Government payroll!
Darth
You just made the list! I wonder who actually will be rounded up first; folks like you and me or those syncophants who enabled the Dictatorship to come to fruition? (aka: the usefule idiots of Achademia and the meida..and Anonymous persons known who are part of this cabal)
Quote from: red_dirt on December 27, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Here is a summary of some things that have come out of this investigation:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/ (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/27/a-mississippi-burning-the-curious-case-of-jessica-lane-chambers/)
The one question that keeps knocking at my brain is, Mississippi so corrupt, that Marshals had to take over the investigation?
Quote from: Solar on December 28, 2014, 05:57:52 AM
The one question that keeps knocking at my brain is, Mississippi so corrupt, that Marshals had to take over the investigation?
Panola County is majority Black. Having lived in MS for many years I know there is much sensitivity about race and a desire to overcome the history of the state. I am thinking local law enforcement does not want to make any mistakes and erring on the side of caution.
http://thehackernews.com/2014/12/password-hacking-data-breach.html (http://thehackernews.com/2014/12/password-hacking-data-breach.html)
Not always fighting for activist reasons it would seem
Not sure if anyone knows who Anon is. Seems like if a hacker wants to post Anonymous,
he does it. The entire Anonymous hacker idea got a serious black eye backing the Arab Spring,
then followed it with this insane OWS. This article shows how dangerous they can be:
http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/anonymous-got-wrong-ferguson (http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/anonymous-got-wrong-ferguson)
Most conservatives cannot stand them. I'm just blown away by what is being done in
Panola, MS, and the potential for laying bare the criminal networks should the hackers
choose to do that.
I'm not naive. For any number of reasons, if hidden criminal activity in America were
to suddenly have a searing spot lite cast upon it, Washington would freak out and shut it
down. You know that is true.