It didn't take long for the ACLU to hit the reset button after the SCOTUS ruling.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/30/aclu-we-can-no-longer-support-federal-religious-freedom-law/

In an op-ed at the Washington Post, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Louise Melling writes that the organization will no longer defend the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

With the militant LGBT rainbow flag incorporated into a map of the United States on its website, the ACLU — whose stated mission was once "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States" — now states that while the organization supported the RFRA when it was passed, "we can no longer support the law in its current form" because "it is now often used as a sword to discriminate against women, gay and transgender people and others."

The left is declaring war on freedom of religion, it is one thing to criticize but to threaten the freedom of pastors and congregations and you will get Churches attacking you back. They are creating a situation where the majority is evil no matter what they do, so in the end they will have nothing to lose from fighting back.

Quote from: kroz on July 01, 2015, 04:55:57 AM
It didn't take long for the ACLU to hit the reset button after the SCOTUS ruling.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/30/aclu-we-can-no-longer-support-federal-religious-freedom-law/

In an op-ed at the Washington Post, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Louise Melling writes that the organization will no longer defend the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

With the militant LGBT rainbow flag incorporated into a map of the United States on its website, the ACLU — whose stated mission was once "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States" — now states that while the organization supported the RFRA when it was passed, "we can no longer support the law in its current form" because "it is now often used as a sword to discriminate against women, gay and transgender people and others."

The ACLU is just like AARP. Another arm of the democrat party.

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2015, 05:21:36 AM
The ACLU is just like AARP. Another arm of the democrat party.

Absolutely true!

But with the SCOTUS ruling.... all the goal posts have been moved.

The Church has now been deemed an instrument of oppression.

Watch how quickly the dominoes will begin to fall.....!

The LGBT community declares that marriage was never the end game......

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/lgbt-activists-marriage-was-never-the-end-game/Now, the real fight begins, say leaders in the LGBT movement.



And it won't be for the faint of heart.

So-called "marriage equality" is not the end-game, according to the activists. It's merely a window through which they will push for other rights, in housing, education, health care, employment and religious practice.

An op-ed in the Nation, a left-of-center magazine, provided a playbook for LGBT rights activists moving forward from last Friday's 5-4 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court proclaiming same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states.

In that op-ed, LGBT activists were encouraged to take the offensive against any individual or group that does not agree with their worldview.

"Create a specific anti-fascist infrastructure of social media, legal, research and watchdog groups to expose and defeat the right wing culturally and politically," writes the article's authors, a trio of LGBT rights activists. "In sum, the work ahead for queers is to be transformative, not transfixed."

A perusal of commentary from LGBT leaders shows that marriage was never the end game. The next step will be for activists to fan out throughout the 50 states, with a special focus on those less-friendly states in the Bible Belt and middle America.

The article goes on to lament that 29 states have no LGBT rights protection, so that is where they plan to strike first.

According to some reports, Obama's popularity soared following the court decision.

What other ways can the American people be divided?
Rich and poor -- Urban and rural -- Christian and non Christian -- Gay and Straight
Liberal and Conservative -- White and non-white -- Communist and Capitalist --
Male and Female -- Young and Old --

More in the pipeline, no doubt, as the global agenda presses on.

The ACLU began as a communist organization with the goal of destroying the United States from within, by using our own laws and constitution against us.  Mainly religion and capitalism.  They have tried to backtrack and hide that fact, but they haven't changed their goals. 

Don't think Muslim groups like CAIR haven't taken notice, and are operating in a very similar manner.  The only difference between their goals and tactics is who will control the country.  The communist atheists or the Islamists. 

Quote from: kroz on July 01, 2015, 06:08:57 AM
The LGBT community declares that marriage was never the end game......

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/lgbt-activists-marriage-was-never-the-end-game/Now, the real fight begins, say leaders in the LGBT movement.



And it won't be for the faint of heart.

So-called "marriage equality" is not the end-game, according to the activists. It's merely a window through which they will push for other rights, in housing, education, health care, employment and religious practice.

An op-ed in the Nation, a left-of-center magazine, provided a playbook for LGBT rights activists moving forward from last Friday's 5-4 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court proclaiming same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states.

In that op-ed, LGBT activists were encouraged to take the offensive against any individual or group that does not agree with their worldview.

"Create a specific anti-fascist infrastructure of social media, legal, research and watchdog groups to expose and defeat the right wing culturally and politically," writes the article's authors, a trio of LGBT rights activists. "In sum, the work ahead for queers is to be transformative, not transfixed."

A perusal of commentary from LGBT leaders shows that marriage was never the end game. The next step will be for activists to fan out throughout the 50 states, with a special focus on those less-friendly states in the Bible Belt and middle America.

The article goes on to lament that 29 states have no LGBT rights protection, so that is where they plan to strike first.

The agenda was clear enough to begin with.  No surprise here, just another leftist agenda to bastardize America. 

Quote from: kroz on July 01, 2015, 05:37:37 AM
Absolutely true!

But with the SCOTUS ruling.... all the goal posts have been moved.

The Church has now been deemed an instrument of oppression.

Watch how quickly the dominoes will begin to fall.....!

No it hasn't the rulingt by SCOTUS said nothing of the kind. What it did say though is that the state will abide by the 14th amendment and treat all citizens equally under the law. That's not oppression of the church.

You know whats really odd is this.

Homosexuality is also considered to be a sin, in Islam. Within Islam your supposed to be killed if your gay.  Yet you don't see imams running all over the place on FOX news screaming the sky is falling down. It's the end of our civilization and mankind as we know it, it's oppression of the church, it's a threat to the church blah blah blah

It's only hypocritical assholes like Huckabee who think they are somehow more "righteous" than gays when the truth is, they're sin is just as equal to the sin of homosexuality. Contrary to what they think, their crap smells just as bad as the next guys crap, where God is concerned. I can't wait for Congress who created this problem in the first place, by passing laws like DOMA and involving the state, in what was for thousands of years of western history a purely religious ceremony. To now pass laws based upon Islamic doctrine too.

That is after all what the huckabees out there are saying should be the case. Legislate Christian doctrine.

Congress created the problem and Congress can fix it too. Get out of the marriage business.. stop the tax breaks and the "rights" created within certain laws if people get married.

Return it to a purely religious ceremony, and the first amendment would then apply. Voila problems solved. But as it stands now, SCOTUS has only upheld the 14th amendment. They were right to strike down bans which prohibit citizens from enjoying the same rights and privileges for one part of the country, as another group enjoys. They are right to strike down Christian theology, being legislated as the law of the land. We have separation of church and state, we have the right of religious freedom under the first for a reason. This ruling illustrates why we have those rights enumerated in the Constitution.

Quote from: daidalos on July 01, 2015, 08:59:05 AMI can't wait for Congress who created this problem in the first place, by passing laws like DOMA and involving the state, in what was for thousands of years of western history a purely religious ceremony.

That I do agree with.  Requiring a government to grant permission for a couple to marry is a relatively new concept, which was enacted by the states.  The why's or history of it, I don't know.  But one thing is certain, the concept of marriage between a man and a woman to form a family is as old as mankind.  Go into any culture and you will find that.

Quote from: daidalos on July 01, 2015, 08:59:05 AM
No it hasn't the rulingt by SCOTUS said nothing of the kind.

The ruling of the SCOTUS said to Christians (and Muslims too BTW) believe what you want, but don't act on that belief or there will be legal repercussions.

QuoteWhat it did say though is that the state will abide by the 14th amendment and treat all citizens equally under the law. That's not oppression of the church.

As I pointed out before, since marriage is not now, nor has it ever been a "Civil Right" (there are many reason a couple cannot get married)  the 14th Amendment does not apply - especially when one considers that there is no proof that homosexuality is anything more than a lifestyle choice. 

QuoteYou know whats really odd is this.

Homosexuality is also considered to be a sin, in Islam. Within Islam your supposed to be killed if your gay.  Yet you don't see imams running all over the place on FOX news screaming the sky is falling down. It's the end of our civilization and mankind as we know it, it's oppression of the church, it's a threat to the church blah blah blah

Really? Islam are the rational ones in this?

REALLY!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/03/05/dnt-damon-isis-gay-executions.cnn

QuoteIt's only hypocritical assholes like Huckabee who think they are somehow more "righteous" than gays when the truth is, they're sin is just as equal to the sin of homosexuality. Contrary to what they think, their crap smells just as bad as the next guys crap, where God is concerned. I can't wait for Congress who created this problem in the first place, by passing laws like DOMA and involving the state, in what was for thousands of years of western history a purely religious ceremony. To now pass laws based upon Islamic doctrine too.

That is after all what the huckabees out there are saying should be the case. Legislate Christian doctrine.

We get it. You hate Huckabee! Big Fat Hairy Deal!

QuoteCongress created the problem and Congress can fix it too. Get out of the marriage business.. stop the tax breaks and the "rights" created within certain laws if people get married.

Congress did nothing of the sort! Congress was more than content to let the individual states decide the issue (IAW the 10th Amendment to the Constitution). It was when the Homosexual Lobby, saw that they were losing big time in the states that Gay Activists pushed the issue to the Supreme Court. As with all Marxist/Tyrants, what they can't win in the legislature, they force upon people via the court system!

QuoteReturn it to a purely religious ceremony, and the first amendment would then apply. Voila problems solved. But as it stands now, SCOTUS has only upheld the 14th amendment.

Keep repeating those DNC talking points! Your handlers will love you for it!

QuoteThey were right to strike down bans which prohibit citizens from enjoying the same rights and privileges for one part of the country, as another group enjoys. They are right to strike down Christian theology, being legislated as the law of the land. We have separation of church and state, we have the right of religious freedom under the first for a reason. This ruling illustrates why we have those rights enumerated in the Constitution.

One last time - marriage is not a right!

Darth, you are going to get nowhere with Daidalos.   He never responds to the facts..... always ignores them and keeps spreading his lies.

It doesn't matter how many times we prove him wrong, he will continue his diatribe.  It is getting extremely old and tiring!!!

But I appreciate your efforts to set the record straight!  I just don't think it is received by Daidalos.  He is a one trick pony!

Quote from: kroz on July 01, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
Darth, you are going to get nowhere with Daidalos.   He never responds to the facts..... always ignores them and keeps spreading his lies.

It doesn't matter how many times we prove him wrong, he will continue his diatribe.  It is getting extremely old and tiring!!!

But I appreciate your efforts to set the record straight!  I just don't think it is received by Daidalos.  He is a one trick pony!

Thanks, but Dildolost isn't my target audience.

Lies, must always be countered with the Truth. If they aren't then innocent people will believe the lies.

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2015, 05:21:36 AM
The ACLU is just like AARP. Another arm of the democrat party.

You're far too Kind; They're not that benign!   

Quote from: daidalos on July 01, 2015, 08:59:05 AM
No it hasn't the ruling by SCOTUS said nothing of the kind. What it did say though is that the state will abide by the 14th amendment and treat all citizens equally under the law. That's not oppression of the church.

I'd suggest two things to this poster. First, look into events in Canada subsequent to its ruling on gay marriage. Second, read the Thomas dissenting opinions. Read all the dissents.
Fortunately, a near majority of conservatives are now catching on to what really lies beneath the surface of subversive leftist agendas. That's important because public figures are nearly forbidden, by ethics, to entertain possibilities, even make claims,  that we on the web and they on talk radio take under consideration and claim every day.
There is no question the left has complex strategies. Heck, half the faculties of Harvard, Columbia, and the University of Chicago probably stay up half the night dreaming up new deceits.  As the end game draws near, though, leftist subversion must cross a line into outright tyranny. That's one explanation for Obama's race war.

What's so outlandish about the ACLU and the Democratic Party is that behind the pretense of doing the good work of ensuring freedom, rights, and liberty for all, lies the biggest pack of charlatans and parasites in the world. The ACLU no longer stands for civil liberties than the communist party the ACLU is a front organization for.

What makes the ACLU and groups like it especially reprehensible is the fact that the end game is not the communist system at all.  The ACLU simply uses Marxist strategy to achieve the aim. Even more telling, the ACLU is a lawyers' organization, retained by who, the Lord only knows.  The World Bank and International Monetary Fund would be two likely suspects, tracing the winners backwards to the source.