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A statistics break down of "Gun Violence" in America
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

• 65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws

• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified

• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – gun violence

• 3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago

• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore

• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit

• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?

• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!

• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths

• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good: • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It's time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides......Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.: Taking away guns gives control to governments.

The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be.

-Chris Brown, Arizona State University

https://www.reddit.com/r/gunpolitics/comments/87cscp/a_statistics_break_down_of_gun_violence_in_america/

Would you like to put this in the Library?

Quote from: walkstall on August 06, 2019, 07:34:58 PM
Would you like to put this in the Library?

Good idea. Let it run it's course first.

Good stats Solar. I always find it to be an interesting double standard. No one on the left wants to talk about the homicide numbers for black and black handgun violence, yet one sick fuck goes out and kills 20 people (or a August weekend in Chicago) and the media is all over it. More people die in the city of Chicago then at the hands of mass shooters in any given year. Where is that news coverage?

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on August 06, 2019, 08:28:26 PM
Good stats Solar. I always find it to be an interesting double standard. No one on the left wants to talk about the homicide numbers for black and black handgun violence, yet one sick fuck goes out and kills 20 people (or a August weekend in Chicago) and the media is all over it. More people die in the city of Chicago then at the hands of mass shooters in any given year. Where is that news coverage?

Toy deserves the credit, she stumbled across it when idiot posted it on Faceplant without accreditation and she had to search it out to find the author.

Maybe we should outlaw News networks for hyping mass murderers to Super Star status, in turn creating more in the process. Quite honestly, I don't give a fuck who these people are, they're mentally sick fucks the media uses to blame the innocent. Think about that, the media actually uses the mentally ill as pawns in their sick pursuit of seizing power for the Marxists.

There's no denying more deaths occur in the home from accidents, but those stats would expose what the leftist media doesn't want you to look at, that 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.

Since when did the facts and the truth matter to the demonrats?

Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2019, 04:57:36 AM
Toy deserves the credit, she stumbled across it when idiot posted it on Faceplant without accreditation and she had to search it out to find the author.

Maybe we should outlaw News networks for hyping mass murderers to Super Star status, in turn creating more in the process. Quite honestly, I don't give a fuck who these people are, they're mentally sick fucks the media uses to blame the innocent. Think about that, the media actually uses the mentally ill as pawns in their sick pursuit of seizing power for the Marxists.

There's no denying more deaths occur in the home from accidents, but those stats would expose what the leftist media doesn't want you to look at, that 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.

I will give credit where credit is due. Everyday my eyes open wider.

Quote from: ConservativeInCT on August 07, 2019, 05:48:06 AM
I will give credit where credit is due. Everyday my eyes open wider.

Thanks, it's who we are.

I have been thrown out of left wing forums when I punished stats that show how to decrease violent crime if they really believed that gun ban works. Banning guns from one certain group would reduce homicide by firearm by over 50% in the USA. It would also service that same group by reducing the rate that they are victims of homicide by firearm by about 90%. We can all guess what group that is.   

Then we can empty out 26% of our Federal Prisons by sending back illegal aliens. No need to build new ones.

Somehow facts are deemed to be racist.

Quote from: carolina73 on August 07, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
I have been thrown out of left wing forums when I punished stats that show how to decrease violent crime if they really believed that gun ban works. Banning guns from one certain group would reduce homicide by firearm by over 50% in the USA. It would also service that same group by reducing the rate that they are victims of homicide by firearm by about 90%. We can all guess what group that is.   

Then we can empty out 26% of our Federal Prisons by sending back illegal aliens. No need to build new ones.

Somehow facts are deemed to be racist.

How would you accomplish that? The left has tried for decades in inner cities, and crime only increase.

We can empty out prisons by executing murderers, including murderers of inmates. And quickly, and not this 20-30 year death row crap.

Quote from: walkstall on August 06, 2019, 07:34:58 PM
Would you like to put this in the Library?

Hey Walks you might wanna add this with that. The truth is never on the side of the democrats.

The right to keep and bear arms is not about anyone's "hunting rifle"; the right to keep and bear arms is about the right of the people to defend themselves against anyone who would attempt the taking of their rights.

1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929-1953, 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered.

1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Christian Armenians rounded up and exterminated.

1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939-1945, 13 million Jews and others rounded up and exterminated.

1935: China established gun control. From 1948-1952, 20 million political dissidents rounded up and exterminated.

1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1981-1984, 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and exterminated.

1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971-1979, 300,000 Christians rounded up and exterminated.

1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975-1977, 1 million educated people rounded up and exterminated.

In the 20th Century more than 56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by people using gun control.

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130127/discuss/701279952/

Sounds like a 2nd Amendment would have helped those people out.

Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2019, 11:00:25 AM
How would you accomplish that? The left has tried for decades in inner cities, and crime only increase.

Which is a valid point since the answer admits that they reject facts and then go after those that show the facts. They do not try to give you the causes because it just points right back at the Democrats. The "village that raised  them" was run by Democrats. The Democrats union failed to educate them or teach them morals.
I expect explanations when I posted stats but only found a desire to mask their failures.

Quote from: carolina73 on August 07, 2019, 03:43:25 PM
Which is a valid point since the answer admits that they reject facts and then go after those that show the facts. They do not try to give you the causes because it just points right back at the Democrats. The "village that raised  them" was run by Democrats. The Democrats union failed to educate them or teach them morals.
I expect explanations when I posted stats but only found a desire to mask their failures.

It wasn't a failure in their eyes, it was part of a plan to keep blacks on the Dim slave plantation. Break up good Conservative families, bribe the mother with welfare as long as there was no man in the picture, meaning, the mother would be split from the husband, giving her a monthly welfare check and she was guaranteed income for every baby spit out.
It was one of LBJ' accomplishments, "I'll keep them niggers voting Dim for life", and up until Trump, the left had succeeded.
#Blexit is working, blacks are abandoning the left in droves, they knew they were about to be tossed under the bus for illegals.