Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 06:05:41 PM

You said "Then you admit, Christians, even the radical ones are not as crazy as the idiots in the M/E.
Thanks for playing."


So, I figured I could post a radical christian not just a group. I was using him as evidence that someone withing that religion could be radical.   




But here, a group-

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-03-18/us/army.god.letters_1_birmingham-blast-atlanta-olympic-park-eric-robert-rudolph?_s=PM:US

"Army of God letters support accused bomber Eric Rudolph"

http://articles.cnn.com/1998-02-02/us/9802_02_clinic.bombing.530pm_1_clinic-bombing-birmingham-bombing-eric-robert-rudolph?_s=PM:US



"Army of God letters claim responsibility for clinic bombing"

So how large is this "Army of God". One would think that a terrorist organization would have come under investigation by the government. Especially considering they had an HBO special made on them. And besides claiming responsibility for things other people have done what have they done. BTW, which doctrine of Christianity actually calls for the bombing of abortion clinics.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Here's a chance for You to educate Yourself, look up Followers of Christ.

http://childrenshealthcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2010-01finallayout.pdf[/u


There's bad in both. It's that simple. We're arguing over the radicals in both. A few of You here  are seemingly trying to lump an entire people in with the radicals in their religion, I think that's wrong.  Do You not, Solar?

One question. Were they punished as the law requires, or did they get as pass like Muscums in the M/E?
Try educating yourself for a change.

Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
One question. Were they punished as the law requires, or did they get as pass like Muscums in the M/E?
Try educating yourself for a change.

Muslim radicals don't "get a pass".   

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 07:05:20 PM

Muslim radicals don't "get a pass".

They not only get a pass, they are martyred.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 07:05:20 PM

Muslim radicals don't "get a pass".

However it is difficult to bring them to trial as their "missions" often consist of suicide attacks.

Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
They not only get a pass, they are martyred.

The only people that believes them Martyrs are the Radicals.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
The only people that believes them Martyrs are the Radicals.

Why do believe that only "Radicals" would believe that a devout Muslim who perishes in the service of Islam is a martyr.
I think that says more about what you believe, rather than actual fact. Unless of course you want to classify millions of Muslims as "radical". 

Quote from: mdgiles on July 16, 2012, 07:24:12 PM
Why do believe that only "Radicals" would believe that a devout Muslim who perishes in the service of Islam is a martyr.

Because Non radicals have voices and they've used them.


"The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur'an: 'No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another' (Surah al-Isra 17:15)."

http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 07:50:02 PM

Because Non radicals have voices and they've used them.

   
Then why do we not see it in the paper every day??? Or even once a week!

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 07:50:02 PM

Because Non radicals have voices and they've used them.


"The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur'an: 'No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another' (Surah al-Isra 17:15)."

http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/

Lets take the first name from your link.
Mustafa Mashhur
Mustafa Mashhur, the fifth head of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, is also cited by Kurzman as being against terror. However, in his book, Jihad is the Way, he stated that there is an "unavoidable personal duty for every Muslim to equip himself and prepare and gear-up towards jihad." Another Kurzman citation, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, former head of the extremist Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, claimed it was a jihad to fight American forces in Afghanistan.
Kurzman is nothing more than a Muscum apologist.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/3454/latest-nc-terror-report-offers-more-baseless

Quote from: walkstall on July 16, 2012, 08:03:59 PM

   
Then why do we not see it in the paper every day??? Or even once a week!

So the non radicals need to apologize every time a crazy person does something stupid?     

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 08:13:39 PM

So the non radicals need to apologize every time a crazy person does something stupid?   

It would be even nice if they did it once a month.   

But then they don't wish to die.   

Quote from: walkstall on July 16, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
It would be even nice if they did it once a month.   

But then they don't wish to die.   

True. 

Quote from: hfishjr81 on July 16, 2012, 08:13:39 PM

So the non radicals need to apologize every time a crazy person does something stupid?   

Once a freakin' YEAR would be extra-special, but it don't happen.

Quote from: tbone0106 on July 16, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Once a freakin' YEAR would be extra-special, but it don't happen.

But then, by that logic, should We, the "Christian Nation", apologize yearly to Japan as well?