Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 01:46:39 PM
Knowing what the FIB has done...how do you justify your trust in this man?

You know he wasn't there when all that happened, right?  That was the 6'8" freak show named Comey...

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and as for Hannity...I may see about 5 minutes of his show so I don't know what he will be speaking about.  I do know that he has been more right than wrong.

You guys (those you get your narrative from) were saying that Mueller was going to hurt Trump.  I kept hearing how the investigation was NEVER going to end.  I kept hearing how Flynn is screwed and will never get justice.  On and on, the "but nothing's happening" crowd continues to be wrong and put their lack of trust for Trump on full display.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 01:49:02 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/24/fbi-director-christopher-wray-fought-to-withhold-exculpatory-evidence-mike-flynn-case/

The question us sane people have is if he was withholding evidence, how did Durham get it from his hands?  Can you get into the physics of how that happened?

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https://conservativechoicecampaign.com/no-wonder-he-wont-act-sidney-powell-reveals-chris-wray-was-the-one-to-promote-terrorist-of-a-prosecutor-andrew-weissmann-video/

Where did Powell reveal that?  Ask yourself this basic, simple question: from where did the special counsel get those documents?

Well then you answer this.  WHY did he hide exculpatory evidence *IN THE FIRST place.


*caps for emphasis only.

We would have known nothing about it had Powell not done some digging.  Perhaps one of the clerks in the Flynn's former attorneys office gave her a clue.     

Withholding evidence is NOT the purview of the FIB. 

Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 02:01:26 PM
Well then you answer this.  WHY did he hide exculpatory evidence *IN THE FIRST place.

Who had it?

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*caps for emphasis only.

We would have known nothing about it had Powell not done some digging.  Perhaps one of the clerks in the Flynn's former attorneys office gave her a clue.     

Withholding evidence is NOT the purview of the FIB.

Incorrect. The evidence was uncovered by the special prosecutor, appointed by Barr, to investigate the Flynn prosecutors.

Mueller has hurt The President.  Rather than to say The president is innocent because there is no evidence to show otherwise,  He said,
'there is no evidence to show this president is guilty.  This insinuates that this president is guilty,  we just can't find the evidence.

He left hope in the black hearts of the left.  And did not ruin himself in the eyes of his co conspirators.

You are certainly quick to give these guys the cover as the left does.   I don't get this.  IN spite of everything....you contend Wray is innocent?  And mueller is ethical?  Look further into their histories.   

Quote from: taxed on May 06, 2020, 09:33:42 AM
For the record, you will not acknowledge that Wray turned over the evidence to Durham and Horowitz.

Good stuff.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wray-facing-heat-from-gop-critics-in-aftermath-of-flynn-reveal

Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 02:07:31 PM
Mueller has hurt The President.

Incorrect. The Mueller report not only came away with "no obstruction and no collusion", it exposed the corruption and criminals in the FBI and DOJ.

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  Rather than to say The president is innocent because there is no evidence to show otherwise,  He said,
'there is no evidence to show this president is guilty.  This insinuates that this president is guilty,  we just can't find the evidence.

It was a coverup operation.  Mueller let it run its course, and now look where we're at: Flynn's prosecutors are going to jail, AND his previous counsel run by Eric Holder are in a world of hurt.  It also pissed off the country the more they learned it was a witch hunt.

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He left hope in the black hearts of the left.  And did not ruin himself in the eyes of his co conspirators.

I'm not seeing a lot of hope on the left.

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You are certainly quick to give these guys the cover as the left does.   I don't get this.  IN spite of everything....you contend Wray is innocent?  And mueller is ethical?  Look further into their histories.   

What did Mueller do?  What did Wray do?  You haven't answered those questions.  You just keep posting Greg Jarrett links.  I'd love to hear YOUR take on why you think this.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 02:12:51 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wray-facing-heat-from-gop-critics-in-aftermath-of-flynn-reveal

This video completely proves Wray did nothing wrong.  Wray was not part of the Mueller team.

You know this, right?

dam CJ...you got a can of whip ass in your back pocket???

I think ya'll be jumping the gun ad perhaps putting too much stock in what media plants are saying.  I know how much skullduggery goes on in Major Law Enforcement organizations first hand. I can tell you that the few snakes like Comey, Strozk et al are just the tip of the iceberg. They had 8 years under the Kenyan to totally revamp the organization and still infest it. Wray has his work cut out for him, and dont think for one second there aren't FOC (Friends of Comey) trying every thing they can to cast a cloud over Wray.

Wait...be patient.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 06, 2020, 05:03:56 PM
I think ya'll be jumping the gun ad perhaps putting too much stock in what media plants are saying.  I know how much skullduggery goes on in Major Law Enforcement organizations first hand. I can tell you that the few snakes like Comey, Strozk et al are just the tip of the iceberg. They had 8 years under the Kenyan to totally revamp the organization and still infest it. Wray has his work cut out for him, and dont think for one second there aren't FOC (Friends of Comey) trying every thing they can to cast a cloud over Wray.

Wait...be patient.

Exacrtly Billy! Not to mention Q said "Trust Wray", and we know from experience that the Trump Admin uses a lot of sleight of hand as in, "Look over there", while Wray pretends to back stab Trump, keeping the left completely off guard.
Then there's the fact Trump appointed Wray, if Wray was not doing his job as directed, he'd be out on his ass in a heartbeat.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on May 06, 2020, 05:03:56 PM
I think ya'll be jumping the gun ad perhaps putting too much stock in what media plants are saying.  I know how much skullduggery goes on in Major Law Enforcement organizations first hand. I can tell you that the few snakes like Comey, Strozk et al are just the tip of the iceberg. They had 8 years under the Kenyan to totally revamp the organization and still infest it. Wray has his work cut out for him, and dont think for one second there aren't FOC (Friends of Comey) trying every thing they can to cast a cloud over Wray.

Wait...be patient.

what he said....

Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
Exacrtly Billy! Not to mention Q said "Trust Wray", and we know from experience that the Trump Admin uses a lot of sleight of hand as in, "Look over there", while Wray pretends to back stab Trump, keeping the left completely off guard.
Then there's the fact Trump appointed Wray, if Wray was not doing his job as directed, he'd be out on his ass in a heartbeat.

Trump aslo appointed Sessions, Mathis and Tillerson.  Were they team players? 

How quickly we forget....

In the end, I hope I am wrong about Wray...but to many instances of his actions or lack thereof leads me to believe he is on the wrong side.  If and when all the smokes clear and it shows he is a team player, I will humbly come before ye, on my knees and beg for your pardon!    

Quote from: drifter106 on May 06, 2020, 06:12:39 PM
Trump aslo appointed Sessions, Mathis and Tillerson.  Were they team players? 

How quickly we forget....

Like I said, we aren't privy to the underpinnings of the Trump plan. We don't know if he appoints people to smoke out moles, or do the job they were hired to do.
I tend to trust Q, he seems to know what's going on behind the scenes and he said "Trust Wray", that's good enough for me.

Like Billy, I too have a background in law enforcement as an investigator, nowhere near as extensive as his. But I never take anything at face value, especially when it comes from the media, especially FOX and CNN.
Why hasn't Trump fired Wray?

Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2020, 06:28:03 PM
Like I said, we aren't privy to the underpinnings of the Trump plan. We don't know if he appoints people to smoke out moles, or do the job they were hired to do.
I tend to trust Q, he seems to know what's going on behind the scenes and he said "Trust Wray", that's good enough for me.

Like Billy, I too have a background in law enforcement as an investigator, nowhere near as extensive as his. But I never take anything at face value, especially when it comes from the media, especially FOX and CNN.
Why hasn't Trump fired Wray?

Trump hasn't fired Wray because Trump is shitty at making personnel decisions.