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Title: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on November 17, 2015, 06:05:58 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race.


Quote from: gandb77 on July 10, 2015, 05:25:51 AM

By the way, what is a troll??   

Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on November 17, 2015, 06:43:15 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 17, 2015, 06:05:58 AM
By the way, what is a troll?

I see him scratching his head trying to decipher your cryptic message.

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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 17, 2015, 07:07:11 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 17, 2015, 06:05:58 AM
By the way, what is a troll?? 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on November 17, 2015, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 17, 2015, 07:07:11 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How soon they forget.   :lol:
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: je_freedom on November 17, 2015, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race.

Maybe those are the only two candidates' names he's ever heard of?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
The only ones left will be Bush and Clinton.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:43:24 AM
They are the parties chosen.
But I guess you all wouldn't understrand
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:44:37 AM
ehrrr   That is understand
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on November 19, 2015, 04:57:55 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
The only ones left will be Bush and Clinton.

Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:43:24 AM
They are the parties chosen.
But I guess you all wouldn't understrand

Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:44:37 AM
ehrrr   That is understand

Did you forget you coffee or med's this A.M. ?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 19, 2015, 05:43:56 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
The only ones left will be Bush and Clinton.
OK, the first time you spewed your idiocy I assumed you were taking a break from lucidity.
But to actually repeat something so ignorant after having been given the results of the last two midterms, kind of screams dare I say, "Stupid"?

Here's how it's going to play out, Hitlery will be the chosen one because the Dim party quelled any chance of a left wing TEA movement starting, but the GOP'e exposed their hatred for the base/TEA, called us all kinds of names, as well as the enemy, essentially cementing their demise and despite their attempts to suppress, even after helping the Marxist use the IRS against us, we flat out told the crony socialists to take their Jeb and shove it up their ass.

If you had any sense whatsoever, you'd see that in the end Cruz will prevail, that the nation had it's fill of politics as usual, and that's why the Dim party has been on life support since Hussein's second anointing.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
Personally, I'd like to see a Cruz / Sanders election.  Two diametrically opposed ideologies.  Let everyone see where the US actually stands.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 19, 2015, 07:17:18 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:40:53 AM
The only ones left will be Bush and Clinton.

Maybe this will help you understand.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/a-peek-into-what-the-polls-really-say/
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on November 19, 2015, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
Personally, I'd like to see a Cruz / Sanders election.  Two diametrically opposed ideologies.  Let everyone see where the US actually stands.

You don't think a Cruz/Clinton contest would reflect diametrically opposing ideologies?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 19, 2015, 08:06:52 AM
You don't think a Cruz/Clinton contest would reflect diametrically opposing ideologies?

Not really, compared to Sanders, Clinton is pretty moderate.   

Sanders is to Cruz as Clinton is to Jeb
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on November 19, 2015, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Not really, compared to Sanders, Clinton is pretty moderate.   

Sanders is to Cruz as Clinton is to Jeb

I respectfully disagree. Clinton is just as far left as Sanders, but she won't tell us that.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 20, 2015, 04:30:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2015, 05:43:56 AM
OK, the first time you spewed your idiocy I assumed you were taking a break from lucidity.
But to actually repeat something so ignorant after having been given the results of the last two midterms, kind of screams dare I say, "Stupid"?

Here's how it's going to play out, Hitlery will be the chosen one because the Dim party quelled any chance of a left wing TEA movement starting, but the GOP'e exposed their hatred for the base/TEA, called us all kinds of names, as well as the enemy, essentially cementing their demise and despite their attempts to suppress, even after helping the Marxist use the IRS against us, we flat out told the crony socialists to take their Jeb and shove it up their ass.

If you had any sense whatsoever, you'd see that in the end Cruz will prevail, that the nation had it's fill of politics as usual, and that's why the Dim party has been on life support since Hussein's second anointing.

I guess that anyone that disagrees with you is STUPID.   Much as your WISHFUL THINKING prefers Cruz, in the end the party insiders will place Bush in the final. 
How far did the Tea Party get with choosing the Speaker of the House???
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2015, 05:15:20 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 20, 2015, 04:30:57 AM
I guess that anyone that disagrees with you is STUPID.   Much as your WISHFUL THINKING prefers Cruz, in the end the party insiders will place Bush in the final. 
How far did the Tea Party get with choosing the Speaker of the House???
TEA didn't have candidates running in all that many races, check your stats, furthermore, TEA has taken more than 1000 Legislative seats from the Dims across the country.
Now with that in mind, how is the Establishment going to find the votes to elect Jebby, show me your magical stats.
Yeah, Clinton is a given, I explained that at the beginning of summer, that she would take the fall for the party's loss, so as to protect Marxist ideals, that her troubles is what lost the election, and not leftist policy.

I've given you solid evidence since last year as to why a Conservative will seize 2016, and in this case the base wants a Constitutionalist, and what did you give to support your theory?
" final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race."....
Really, and what I wrote is stupid? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 22, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2015, 05:15:20 AM
TEA didn't have candidates running in all that many races, check your stats, furthermore, TEA has taken more than 1000 Legislative seats from the Dims across the country.
Now with that in mind, how is the Establishment going to find the votes to elect Jebby, show me your magical stats.
Yeah, Clinton is a given, I explained that at the beginning of summer, that she would take the fall for the party's loss, so as to protect Marxist ideals, that her troubles is what lost the election, and not leftist policy.

I've given you solid evidence since last year as to why a Conservative will seize 2016, and in this case the base wants a Constitutionalist, and what did you give to support your theory?
" final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race."....
Really, and what I wrote is stupid? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually I do support the TEA party but I am also realistic. Unlike you, I can see what is realistic and not colored by my wishful thinking.
If only wishing it were true, it would be great and we would not have Ryan as speaker. But, power being what it is, the party powerful will prevail and Jeb will be their candidate.
When the TEA party allowed itself to be incorporated into the republican party it was the end of TEA party effectiveness.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: kit saginaw on November 22, 2015, 05:09:34 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 22, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Actually I do support the TEA party but I am also realistic. Unlike you, I can see what is realistic and not colored by my wishful thinking.
If only wishing it were true, it would be great and we would not have Ryan as speaker. But, power being what it is, the party powerful will prevail and Jeb will be their candidate.
When the TEA party allowed itself to be incorporated into the republican party it was the end of TEA party effectiveness.

Those are unrealistic assessments.  Also unrealistic is starting a new thread called 'presidential race', then simply stating it'll be Bush vs. Clinton. 

Reanimate one of the dozens of previous threads and type-in your opinion.  The subject has been exhaustively debated already.

And since you haven't gotten the memo, the TEA Party isn't a 'Party'.  It's a philosophy based on Conservative and traditional principles. 

Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 22, 2015, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 22, 2015, 04:38:15 AM
Actually I do support the TEA party but I am also realistic. Unlike you, I can see what is realistic and not colored by my wishful thinking.
If only wishing it were true, it would be great and we would not have Ryan as speaker. But, power being what it is, the party powerful will prevail and Jeb will be their candidate.
When the TEA party allowed itself to be incorporated into the republican party it was the end of TEA party effectiveness.
Wrong! Mine is not simply wishful optimism, mine as proven is based in reality and backed up with fact.
Yours on the other hand bleeds pessimism and falsities.
Take your claim that the GOP usurped TEA, that is the dumbest thing you've posted to date, with the exception of this OP.
TEA was not taken over by the GOP, in fact it's the obverse, TEA is stealing the GOP from the Establishment, and as Kit pointed out, TEA is not a party, it's an ideology, and there is absolutely no way anyone or anything can usurp beliefs, it's an complete impossibility.

As to your claim you back TEA? Bull Shit! You don't even understand the movement, so there is no way you could possibly claim support status.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 22, 2015, 06:55:14 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on November 22, 2015, 05:09:34 AM
Those are unrealistic assessments.  Also unrealistic is starting a new thread called 'presidential race', then simply stating it'll be Bush vs. Clinton. 

Reanimate one of the dozens of previous threads and type-in your opinion.  The subject has been exhaustively debated already.

And since you haven't gotten the memo, the TEA Party isn't a 'Party'.  It's a philosophy based on Conservative and traditional principles.
Trolls tend to have a habit of stepping in it when they don't understand the subject matter.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 23, 2015, 04:36:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2015, 06:53:50 AM
Wrong! Mine is not simply wishful optimism, mine as proven is based in reality and backed up with fact.
Yours on the other hand bleeds pessimism and falsities.
Take your claim that the GOP usurped TEA, that is the dumbest thing you've posted to date, with the exception of this OP.
TEA was not taken over by the GOP, in fact it's the obverse, TEA is stealing the GOP from the Establishment, and as Kit pointed out, TEA is not a party, it's an ideology, and there is absolutely no way anyone or anything can usurp beliefs, it's an complete impossibility.

As to your claim you back TEA? Bull Shit! You don't even understand the movement, so there is no way you could possibly claim support status.

So, the TEA PARTY    isn.t a PARTY.  Thats real good thinking.
All I can say is watch the results of the presidential race.   Who is this TEA Parties philosophies candidate of choice??
Or, Do you know?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on November 23, 2015, 04:43:49 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 23, 2015, 04:36:49 AM
So, the TEA PARTY    isn.t a PARTY.  Thats real good thinking.
All I can say is watch the results of the presidential race.   Who is this TEA Parties philosophies candidate of choice??
Or, Do you know?

Quote from: gandb77 on July 10, 2015, 05:25:51 AM

By the way, what is a troll??   
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 23, 2015, 06:19:50 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 23, 2015, 04:36:49 AM
So, the TEA PARTY    isn.t a PARTY.  Thats real good thinking.
NO! TEA is not a party, it's a belief in a set principals.
Now, please tell me why in your mind that's a problem. This should be interesting.

QuoteAll I can say is watch the results of the presidential race.   Who is this TEA Parties philosophies candidate of choice??
Or, Do you know?

Jeez, pay attention! It's Cruz for Christs sake! The same guy that WILL be the next POTUS.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on November 23, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2015, 06:19:50 AM
NO! TEA is not a party, it's a belief in a set principals.
Now, please tell me why in your mind that's a problem. This should be interesting.

Jeez, pay attention! It's Cruz for Christs sake! The same guy that WILL be the next POTUS.

gandb77 definitely does not comprehend what TEA is. He is still looking for the TEA Party.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on November 23, 2015, 07:23:26 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 23, 2015, 04:43:49 AM
What is a troll?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 23, 2015, 07:42:31 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 23, 2015, 07:19:35 AM
gandb77 definitely does not comprehend what TEA is. He is still looking for the TEA Party.
Yeah. I'm guessing recent lib convert, or kid, or even both, but most likely one that realized the Dims lied and he won't be suckered again, so he looked toward the LIBertarian movement as an alternative.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 25, 2015, 04:02:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2015, 07:42:31 AM
Yeah. I'm guessing recent lib convert, or kid, or even both, but most likely one that realized the Dims lied and he won't be suckered again, so he looked toward the LIBertarian movement as an alternative.
Kid of 83.  lifelong republican and Reagan conservative.
Just don,t like this running down and ridiculing anyone that disagrees with you folks.
maybe you should stop trying to run a closed shop and give honest disageements, honest  answers


Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on November 25, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 25, 2015, 04:02:25 AM

Kid of 83.  lifelong republican and Reagan conservative.
Just don,t like this running down and ridiculing anyone that disagrees with you folks.
maybe you should stop trying to run a closed shop and give honest disageements, honest  answers

A true "closed shop" is Democratic Underground or the odious children at The Daily Kos. There, a single conservative posting is often enough to get someone banned INSTANTLY. Liberals are liars if they say they allow freedom of speech. You have mistaken this site for their tactics.

"Running down and ridiculing" is also subject to some debate. I feel lately I haven't been doing enough of it with the brazen vile trash now in our White House, sending advance warning to enemy combatants before starting the bombing. (Drop that fool into that same zone and watch him reevaluate!)

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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2015, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 25, 2015, 04:02:25 AM

Kid of 83.  lifelong republican and Reagan conservative.
Just don,t like this running down and ridiculing anyone that disagrees with you folks.
maybe you should stop trying to run a closed shop and give honest disageements, honest  answers

Then let me be blunt. You're either a liar or an idiot that's been asleep since Reagan.
Fact is, this is a TEA forum with an agenda of support of True Conservatives. The Nation is fed up with the two party system and making change.

The Dim party as you know it, is dead, the GOP stranglehold on the base, is also dead and TEA ideology is rightfully claiming it's place in the GOP, in fact, we're stealing the party from these bastards, people that have never put the Nations best interests first.
For you to assume nothing has changed is, like I said, a liar or someone that's been asleep the last three decades.
With TEA seizing over 1000 Legislative seats from the leftists over the last 4 years, and not have noticed this historical event is a display in virtually mind numbing ignorance in the current political system.

It might be better for you to sit back and learn something for a change instead of spewing pure ignorance.
Because what you see as ridicule over disagreement, is simply people telling you in certain terms, get the fuck out of the way, we're not listening to you enablers any longer.
The GOP has kept it's stranglehold on the electorate by threat of the alternative Dim party taking power.

That threat no longer exists or works because the Dim party hasn't a snowflakes chance in Hell of regaining power for decades to come, so to assume Bush has a shot due to no other option, simply no longer flies, the leftist threat is nonexistent, which is why the base is rallying around Cruz, we no longer have to settle for Establishment scum.
Got It?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: taxed on November 25, 2015, 11:20:18 AM
Quote from: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
Personally, I'd like to see a Cruz / Sanders election.  Two diametrically opposed ideologies.  Let everyone see where the US actually stands.

Yes!!
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 26, 2015, 04:51:50 AM
The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.

Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: kit saginaw on November 26, 2015, 08:26:36 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 26, 2015, 04:51:50 AM
The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.

Evidence...  TEA is successful in candidates elected and legislation-awareness messaging.
Rationality... TEA hasn't morphed or changed because of its successes.
Reality...  TEA's setbacks are minimal.

So where does the 'wishing' come in?!?

TEA-supporters form opinions based on logic... hence it's logical to assess that the GOP-establishment's influence will continue waning.  There's no evidence that shows otherwise.  Jeb's approval-numbers dropped from 14% when he announced, to between 4%-and-6% where he's languished ever since.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 26, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 26, 2015, 04:51:50 AM
The TEA PARTY is making great strides in many areas.
We have stopped Obama in his tracks, elected our House Speaker, Pushed for and gotten thru positive legislation, have our candidate as front runner in the republican primary race, and gotten rid of the power of the RINO republicans.
GREAT JOB.

Now, tell me,  Is that WISHFUL THINKING?
I am in full sympathy with Tea Party philosophy,, but lets be realistic.
About what?
I gave you a solid rundown of our successes and a view of what is to come, to see it any differently would be the perspective of a pessimist.
Seeing an obvious pattern does not make me an optimist, rather a realist in what is to be an expected outcome in 2016, one where Cruz seizes the WH, despite the wishes of the Establishment.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 28, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 26, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
About what?
I gave you a solid rundown of our successes and a view of what is to come, to see it any differently would be the perspective of a pessimist.
Seeing an obvious pattern does not make me an optimist, rather a realist in what is to be an expected outcome in 2016, one where Cruz seizes the WH, despite the wishes of the Establishment.

The TEA PARTY is not a party,  At best it is a collection of individuals that say they share the same views.   What are these views?
While you can say that the tea party has made gains on the local scene, the success on the national; scene has been minimal.
Is the front runner Trump a tea party candidate?   How about Carson, Rubio, or kashich.  Does Ted Cruz identify himself as a Tea Party candidate? 
And in congress.  I know of no Tea Party wing in the senate and in the house they prefer to identify themselves as the Freedom Caucus.
As I previously said, the Tea Party has been nullified by being incorporated into the Republican party
So rather than belittling and ridiculing those that disagree with you, why not take the time to evaluate what is being said and have an intelligent discussion.
I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.       
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on November 28, 2015, 07:01:13 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 28, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.

There are the forum owner, administrator and a few moderators. They really DO run the show, but not in the simpleminded way you imply. Had you actually tried to read and learn, and not read to disprove, you would already have your answers about Taxed Enough Already, and its desire to reduce government until it can be fit into a bathtub and then drowned.

As for your kind offer to deny us your presence.....

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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 28, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 28, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
The TEA PARTY is not a party,  At best it is a collection of individuals that say they share the same views.   What are these views?
While you can say that the tea party has made gains on the local scene, the success on the national; scene has been minimal.
Is the front runner Trump a tea party candidate?   How about Carson, Rubio, or kashich.  Does Ted Cruz identify himself as a Tea Party candidate? 
And in congress.  I know of no Tea Party wing in the senate and in the house they prefer to identify themselves as the Freedom Caucus.
As I previously said, the Tea Party has been nullified by being incorporated into the Republican party
So rather than belittling and ridiculing those that disagree with you, why not take the time to evaluate what is being said and have an intelligent discussion.
I realize that on this forum there is a group of maybe four to five individuals that feel they run the show and really belittle everyone that they disagree with thru sarcasm, name calling, and pure hate statements.
So, I may try to find another forum where intelligent conversation can exist and the members are more receptive to intelligent discussion.
I now say ADIOS, for now,    but remember,  LIKE IT OR NOT , IT WILL BE A CLINTON-BUSH GENERAL ELECTION.
I see no reason to waste my time on the ignorant, a person incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts such as a shared ideology.
When Cruz is elected, come on back, his election will be all the rebuttal necessary in proving my points were all spot on.
I'll keep your Crow dinner warm.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on November 29, 2015, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 28, 2015, 07:28:19 AM
I see no reason to waste my time on the ignorant, a person incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts such as a shared ideology.
When Cruz is elected, come on back, his election will be all the rebuttal necessary in proving my points were all spot on.
I'll keep your Crow dinner warm.

My point exactly.  Don't waste your time on presenting your viewpoints.  Just call names . as always.
You sir, are the ignorant one.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on November 29, 2015, 06:03:42 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on November 29, 2015, 04:32:32 AM
My point exactly.  Don't waste your time on presenting your viewpoints.  Just call names . as always.
You sir, are the ignorant one.
Pure Bull Shit! I gave you a litany of evidence as to why Cruz will be the next POTUS, and your rebuttal?
Bush will be selected. No evidence, merely pleas to emotional based fear, no evidence other than:
Quote from: gandb77 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:14 AM
Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race.

No, it was you that failed to make your case, as evidenced by the OP itself "Me-thinks that in the final analysis it will be a Bush - Clinton race."
Followed by this bit of wisdom:
Quote from: gandb77 on November 19, 2015, 04:43:24 AM
They are the parties chosen.
But I guess you all wouldn't understrand

That was it, that was all you offered in support of your emotionally based fear of a prediction.
So get off your ass, give us something tangible to support your nonsense.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 02, 2015, 04:53:15 AM
Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 02, 2015, 05:46:10 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 02, 2015, 04:53:15 AM
Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.
There is no such party, TEA is an ideology.
Which candidate most espouses TEA ideals?

I'm still waiting for you to make a case for your claims over a Clinton Bush runoff.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 08:28:05 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 02, 2015, 04:53:15 AM
Who is the presidential candidate that is running under the banner as the TEA PARTY candidate?  Not just who we all prefer, but one who acknowledges as being a TEA PARTY candidate.

Why do you keep talking about the TEA Party? As has been explained to you on numerous occasions there is no TEA Party.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 02, 2015, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 08:28:05 AM
Why do you keep talking about the TEA Party? As has been explained to you on numerous occasions there is no TEA Party.
Being too damned stupid to understand this, the moron keeps repeating the question. Ignore this troll. He's too ignorant to deserve the air he burns.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 02, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 02, 2015, 05:46:10 AM
I'm still waiting for you to make a case for your claims over a Clinton Bush runoff.

I would like to hear his rationale for Trump being so far ahead in every poll and yet he supposedly will lose out to Bush, who's so deep in the polls you need a sherpa to track him. Maybe Our Genius Here™ can spare a few words on how Bush will do all that in a year.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: quiller on December 02, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
I would like to hear his rationale for Trump being so far ahead in every poll and yet he supposedly will lose out to Bush, who's so deep in the polls you need a sherpa to track him. Maybe Our Genius Here™ can spare a few words on how Bush will do all that in a year.

A paid shill for GOPe?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 03, 2015, 03:27:04 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
A paid shill for GOPe?
Here's where I do my grizzled old prospector bit (*) and say I've been troll-hunting for so many years that I know he *IS* one. The why is not important.


==

(*) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxqSlO6JbGA
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 03, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 08:28:05 AM
Why do you keep talking about the TEA Party? As has been explained to you on numerous occasions there is no TEA Party.

Lets just try to get it straight.    Yes, there is a Tea Party.   Try  teaparty.org
Tea Party is headed up by Steve Eichler J.D.
For someone who knows everything, I'm surprised you didn't know this. 
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 03, 2015, 04:58:24 AM
Quote from: quiller on December 02, 2015, 09:32:32 AM
Being too damned stupid to understand this, the moron keeps repeating the question. Ignore this troll. He's too ignorant to deserve the air he burns.

The small core of individuals on this forum are so wrapped up in believing themselves that they can't even entertain any opposing views, hence the name calling and belittlement.
An intelligent person can present intelligent arguments on various subjects, and does resort to antagonistic and demeaning tactics.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:07:19 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 03, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
Lets just try to get it straight.    Yes, there is a Tea Party.   Try  teaparty.org
Tea Party is headed up by Steve Eichler J.D.
For someone who knows everything, I'm surprised you didn't know this.
This forum is TEA. He is no more Representative of the movement than, am I myself.
That's the beauty of an ideology based on the Right, we can all agree on the direction, but attaining the results is up for grabs.
THERE IS NO TEA PARTY!!!!
Only those of us willing to speak out and guide others that share our end goal.

I could claim to be the ultimate sooth TEA Spokesman of the movement, but that doesn't make it so, no more than Eichler can or does, and I am most certain he does not, because he too, like me, knows no one single individual, runs this ideology, none!
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on December 03, 2015, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 03, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
Lets just try to get it straight.    Yes, there is a Tea Party.   Try  teaparty.org
Tea Party is headed up by Steve Eichler J.D.
For someone who knows everything, I'm surprised you didn't know this.

That is a political fund raising organization just like Tea Party Patriots. How many candidates have they run as the Tea Party?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:38:28 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 03, 2015, 05:33:24 AM
That is a political fund raising organization just like Tea Party Patriots. How many candidates have they run as the Tea Party?
Yep, they're in it for the money, which is the exact opposite of this forum, seeing how I pay for it out of pocket, accept no help, nor advertisers.
Essentially making this forum the epitome of the TEA movement, and a more reliable representation of what TEA stands for.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 03, 2015, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 03, 2015, 04:58:24 AM
The small core of individuals on this forum are so wrapped up in believing themselves that they can't even entertain any opposing views, hence the name calling and belittlement.
An intelligent person can present intelligent arguments on various subjects, and does resort to antagonistic and demeaning tactics.

There is no national Tea Party, despite any claims by any local organization. Stop long enough to actually LEARN what you are posting about. Oh. And answer questions Solar asks you. Don't hide like a child and play troll games, or else we can safely call you one, whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 03, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 03, 2015, 05:33:24 AM
That is a political fund raising organization just like Tea Party Patriots. How many candidates have they run as the Tea Party?

Better yet, how many won office at any level?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 03, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: quiller on December 03, 2015, 03:54:50 PM
There is no national Tea Party, despite any claims by any local organization. Stop long enough to actually LEARN what you are posting about. Oh. And answer questions Solar asks you. Don't hide like a child and play troll games, or else we can safely call you one, whether you like it or not.
Yet I'm the ass hole for for laughing at people for posting threads without substantiation.

Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that "The world ends tomorrow".
That is essentially what he posted. No evidence, facts, just a mind fart manifest.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: je_freedom on December 03, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:38:28 AM
Yep, they're in it for the money, which is the exact opposite of this forum, seeing how I pay for it out of pocket, accept no help, nor advertisers.
Essentially making this forum the epitome of the TEA movement, and a more reliable representation of what TEA stands for.

That's why this site still works!
Pages on sites that sell advertising
load a THOUSAND times more slowly!
Many otherwise good sites are UNUSABLE!
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 04, 2015, 03:27:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
Yet I'm the ass hole for for laughing at people for posting threads without substantiation.

Lets just watch.  Me-thinks that "The world ends tomorrow".
That is essentially what he posted. No evidence, facts, just a mind fart manifest.

Speaking of brain farts: I hadn't been over to Lamont's in three years, so yesterday I went through my images for that site and found I had more than 100 specifically directed at our unlamented and fortunately decedent troll Ricky. One. Hundred. Personalized. Images.

I wonder how thick this boy's skin really is, dodging legitimate questions to explain the opinion he states?

Mountainshield, whom I believe is a sincere reasonable person, has trouble understanding my point of view. I agreed with him. I often do as well. A few around here do that to me, also. But then kit saginaw wants me to dial 1-800-clarity and I am NOT going to wind up with $15/min. charges, no-siree!  :wink:

Oops. Wandered there, about as far off-topic as Wonder Boy gets, dodging answers. Must not BELITTLE him or EMBARASS him. He's PRESENT, damn it, hand him a certificate of award just for breathing, you fascist trash, you!

Oh my, I'm coming down to his intellectual level. Next I'll gargle Clearasil.

He wants to post brain farts? He won't do it long. Answering questions is a whole lot less painful, unless you're a blowhard adolescent talking straight out your diaper.

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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 04, 2015, 04:54:42 AM
Quote from: quiller on December 04, 2015, 03:27:13 AM
Speaking of brain farts: I hadn't been over to Lamont's in three years, so yesterday I went through my images for that site and found I had more than 100 specifically directed at our unlamented and fortunately decedent troll Ricky. One. Hundred. Personalized. Images.

I wonder how thick this boy's skin really is, dodging legitimate questions to explain the opinion he states?

Mountainshield, whom I believe is a sincere reasonable person, has trouble understanding my point of view. I agreed with him. I often do as well. A few around here do that to me, also. But then kit saginaw wants me to dial 1-800-clarity and I am NOT going to wind up with $15/min. charges, no-siree!  :wink:

Oops. Wandered there, about as far off-topic as Wonder Boy gets, dodging answers. Must not BELITTLE him or EMBARASS him. He's PRESENT, damn it, hand him a certificate of award just for breathing, you fascist trash, you!

Oh my, I'm coming down to his intellectual level. Next I'll gargle Clearasil.

He wants to post brain farts? He won't do it long. Answering questions is a whole lot less painful, unless you're a blowhard adolescent talking straight out your diaper.

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Wow,  this is a post that seems to lack clarity and is just rambling. I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 04, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:  Liberals are so much fun. I was addressing Solar.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 04, 2015, 10:37:08 PM
Hey, there. BrainFart77. You want to justify why you think Jeb Bush will face Hillary Clinton in 2016? Or are you going to play juvenile games like you have been?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 05, 2015, 05:54:39 AM
Quote from: quiller on December 04, 2015, 10:37:08 PM
Hey, there. BrainFart77. You want to justify why you think Jeb Bush will face Hillary Clinton in 2016? Or are you going to play juvenile games like you have been?

I just don't understand why a person of your intelligence must always resort to name calling and belittlement.  Shouldn't you have more to offer.

I say that Jeb Bush will be the nominee because the power, influence, and money of the power brokers are backing him.        Personally I prefer Trump, but  , unlike you, I am a realist.
Now, why don't you all try to make this forum a place of honest discussion rather than a wailing wall for  those that try to shut out all opposing lines of thought.  I'm sure that a more meaningful purpose would be achieved.
Or are you simply more adept at name calling.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on December 05, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 05, 2015, 05:54:39 AM
I just don't understand why a person of your intelligence must always resort to name calling and belittlement.  Shouldn't you have more to offer.

I say that Jeb Bush will be the nominee because the power, influence, and money of the power brokers are backing him.        Personally I prefer Trump, but  , unlike you, I am a realist.
Now, why don't you all try to make this forum a place of honest discussion rather than a wailing wall for  those that try to shut out all opposing lines of thought.  I'm sure that a more meaningful purpose would be achieved.
Or are you simply more adept at name calling.

What you mentioned above does not vote. People are fed up with the establishment. TEA continues to increase in influence.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 05, 2015, 06:30:33 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 05, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
What you mentioned above does not vote. People are fed up with the establishment. TEA continues to increase in influence.
Unfortunately his grasp and comprehension of the national political scene, is that of an avid TV viewer/consumer.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: SalemCat on December 05, 2015, 09:09:27 PM
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton....

How sad there is no KENNEDY on the Ballot.

Just Kidding !!!!!

:laugh:

Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on December 05, 2015, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 05, 2015, 09:09:27 PM
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton....

How sad there is no KENNEDY on the Ballot.

Just Kidding !!!!!

:laugh:


How many women do you want drowned?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 05, 2015, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 05, 2015, 05:54:39 AM
I just don't understand why a person of your intelligence must always resort to name calling and belittlement.  Shouldn't you have more to offer.


I'm smart enough to know a troll when I see one. Stop sniveling and accept the fact you have shown us NOTHING by running away when confronted. I had to ask you REPEATEDLY to answer, and your pathetic weak excuse for an answer has shown you contribute NOTHING.

Name calling and belittlement? What sort of namby-pamby Internet world do YOU live in, Cupcake? You defend Bush...and expect to be treated as if you KNOW anything?

Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: walkstall on December 05, 2015, 09:47:27 PM
Quote from: quiller on December 05, 2015, 09:43:49 PM
I'm smart enough to know a troll when I see one. Stop sniveling and accept the fact you have shown us NOTHING by running away when confronted. I had to ask you REPEATEDLY to answer, and your pathetic weak excuse for an answer has shown you contribute NOTHING.

Name calling and belittlement? What sort of namby-pamby Internet world do YOU live in, Cupcake? You defend Bush...and expect to be treated as if you KNOW anything?


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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 05, 2015, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 05, 2015, 09:47:27 PM

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Yeah. Riiiiiiight.

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Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 06, 2015, 05:15:32 AM
It is amazing how the MAGPIES all chime in with the same basic comment.
Why don't you all just send in a weekly report about how intelligent each other is, and how the rest of the world is stupid.
This forum serves no real purpose, as any and all comments not supporting the "Party Line" are quickly belittled by all the MAGPIES.
So what real purpose does it serve.
Just send Congratulatory notes to each other and be happy.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 06, 2015, 05:42:51 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 06, 2015, 05:15:32 AM
It is amazing how the MAGPIES all chime in with the same basic comment.
Why don't you all just send in a weekly report about how intelligent each other is, and how the rest of the world is stupid.
This forum serves no real purpose, as any and all comments not supporting the "Party Line" are quickly belittled by all the MAGPIES.
So what real purpose does it serve.
Just send Congratulatory notes to each other and be happy.
Wait, did it just now dawn on you that we support TEA? That to come here with ludicrous claims of a Bush win, just might be ridiculed for what they are, stupid and delusional?

TEA or not, you have been given actual facts as to why your claims are not only ignorant and uninformed, but a literal impossibility to pull off without illegal intervention.
And what have you posted as supporting evidence outside of an emotional plea?
Not one thing, and then have the audacity to insult us as lockstep Magpies/crows? :lol:

Only a fool would dawn his bread crumb costume and wander into a field full of crows, with only their intellect for a shield.
Boy, talk about dumb......
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: quiller on December 06, 2015, 06:18:45 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 05, 2015, 05:54:39 AM
Shouldn't you have more to offer.
Shouldn't you? This was the entire contents of your all-inclusive, completely-thought-out reply....

Quote

I say that Jeb Bush will be the nominee because the power, influence, and money of the power brokers are backing him.        Personally I prefer Trump, but  , unlike you, I am a realist.

That's it. Go ahead and look at the original post. THAT'S IT. And he accuses us of being shallow!

Quote
Now, why don't you all try to make this forum a place of honest discussion rather than a wailing wall for  those that try to shut out all opposing lines of thought.  I'm sure that a more meaningful purpose would be achieved.
Or are you simply more adept at name calling.

You are walking proof that projection is real.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 09, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
By the way.  Who is the TEA Party presidential candidate?  I mean running as a TEA Party candidate?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 09, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 09, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
By the way.  Who is the TEA Party presidential candidate?  I mean running as a TEA Party candidate?
How can one claim to be a candidate of a movement, a movement that never filed as an actual party?
Using your line of thought, why hasn't anyone ran as the FSM  candidate? (Flying Spaghetti Monster atheist ticket)

When one runs as a true Conservative? They are running as a TEA candidate, because TEA will support them.
It's what differentiates TEA Conservatives from Republicans.


But I bet what I just said was beyond your comprehension as a Republican to understand, didn't it?
Be honest, that made no sense to you did it?
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 09, 2015, 06:30:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 09, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
How can one claim to be a candidate of a movement, a movement that never filed as an actual party?
Using your line of thought, why hasn't anyone ran as the FSM  candidate? (Flying Spaghetti Monster atheist ticket)

When one runs as a true Conservative? They are running as a TEA candidate, because TEA will support them.
It's what differentiates TEA Conservatives from Republicans.


But I bet what I just said was beyond your comprehension as a Republican to understand, didn't it?
Be honest, that made no sense to you did it?

By your convoluted description anyone can be claimed as a tea party candidate as long as you support them.  In that regard you must be the Tea party.
or, can Trump be the only tea party candidate, as he seems to be the most conservative.  By the way, I have noticed that you don't refer to it as "The tea party"  only as TEA.  Also,  what is your idea of being conservative?       Spell it out.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 09, 2015, 06:31:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 09, 2015, 05:50:14 AM
How can one claim to be a candidate of a movement, a movement that never filed as an actual party?
Using your line of thought, why hasn't anyone ran as the FSM  candidate? (Flying Spaghetti Monster atheist ticket)

When one runs as a true Conservative? They are running as a TEA candidate, because TEA will support them.
It's what differentiates TEA Conservatives from Republicans.


But I bet what I just said was beyond your comprehension as a Republican to understand, didn't it?
Be honest, that made no sense to you did it?
By the way, this was not intended as an insult, rather an observation. So in the event you honestly didn't understand the post, it would explain the confusion and the reason we're not connecting here.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: supsalemgr on December 09, 2015, 08:08:44 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 09, 2015, 06:30:38 AM


This has been explained to you several times. Do you really not understand the difference between TEA and the non existent tea party? Also, please share with us why you believe Trump is more conservative than Cruz.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: Solar on December 09, 2015, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: gandb77 on December 09, 2015, 06:30:38 AM
By your convoluted description anyone can be claimed as a tea party candidate as long as you support them.  In that regard you must be the Tea party.
or, can Trump be the only tea party candidate, as he seems to be the most conservative.  By the way, I have noticed that you don't refer to it as "The tea party"  only as TEA.  Also,  what is your idea of being conservative?       Spell it out.
See reply # 74.

I get the idea I'll be wasting my time trying to explain it, because Conservatism is not a political party, like TEA, it's an ideal, a way of life, the belief in American culture, family first and foremost, Liberty as well as freedom with the idea that a Statesman is the epitome of TEA.

Look up Statesman, and you'll see what it means to be a true Conservative, as in the ideals of our Founders, men that sacrificed Treasure as well as life in belief of stated ideals.
"Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death", those were not merely words, they were stated convictions, each and everyone lived by and died by.
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: gandb77 on December 10, 2015, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 09, 2015, 09:45:56 AM
See reply # 74.

I get the idea I'll be wasting my time trying to explain it, because Conservatism is not a political party, like TEA, it's an ideal, a way of life, the belief in American culture, family first and foremost, Liberty as well as freedom with the idea that a Statesman is the epitome of TEA.



Look up Statesman, and you'll see what it means to be a true Conservative, as in the ideals of our Founders, men that sacrificed Treasure as well as life in belief of stated ideals.
"Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death", those were not merely words, they were stated convictions, each and everyone lived by and died by.


I believe in freedom of speech, I believe in freedom of the press,
I believe in the right to bear arms, I believe in freedom of religion,
I believe in government of the
people, by the people, for the people, I believe in three separate
but equal functions of government. I also believe in no taxation
without representation. Also, states rights and smaller government.
I suspect these beliefs would qualify Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio,
Santorum, et el.
These might even qualify Clinton.
So, therefore what is the Tea Party belief?

Incidentally, I still prefer a good cup of coffee. 
Tea seems a little bland and undefined.


Removed post out of quote.
walks
Title: Re: presidential race
Post by: SalemCat on December 12, 2015, 05:53:02 PM
Quote from: mhughes on November 19, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Not really, compared to Sanders, Clinton is pretty moderate.   

Sanders is to Cruz as Clinton is to Jeb

But Sanders is not a LIAR and a MURDERER.