Oregon College Shooting

[supsalemgr]

It's the truth.  All these mass shooters have had mental problems.

There are millions of people with mental issues.  So where do you draw the line or can you?

I for one am not in favor of unstable and unpredictable people getting guns. 

As to depressed people who kill themselves with guns, there are over 20k a year that do that.  It's a shame they couldn't be helped, because most depressed people can be.

The problem I see is "who makes the call?" No government bureaucrat should ever have this power.

[Dori]

The problem I see is "who makes the call?" No government bureaucrat should ever have this power.

Access to good mental health professions is almost non-existent.  First, a lot of people don't go, out of fear of being made to look weak or that it will affect their jobs etc.  Second, too many times people aren't diagnosed properly, and some psychiatrist will just throw drugs at them without regular follow ups to see how they are doing or on the right medication. 

A lot of these people are dysfunctional.  They don't have the financial means or insurance, which in itself is not a guarantee of getting a good professional help.

I used to see this in L. A. all the time where the majority of people on the street where mentally ill.  The police would pick them up, throw them in a 72 hr lock up in a mental ward, then release them back on the street with no real help. 

[supsalemgr]

Access to good mental health professions is almost non-existent.  First, a lot of people don't go, out of fear of being made to look weak or that it will affect their jobs etc.  Second, too many times people aren't diagnosed properly, and some psychiatrist will just throw drugs at them without regular follow ups to see how they are doing or on the right medication. 

A lot of these people are dysfunctional.  They don't have the financial means or insurance, which in itself is not a guarantee of getting a good professional help.

I used to see this in L. A. all the time where the majority of people on the street where mentally ill.  The police would pick them up, throw them in a 72 hr lock up in a mental ward, then release them back on the street with no real help.

Once again I will ask why you used the quote function for your post? It is a worthy post, but really is not in response to my post.

[Dori]

Once again I will ask why you used the quote function for your post? It is a worthy post, but really is not in response to my post.

Once again, you quoted my post about mental health.  Your response to that was not about the mental health but who makes the call as to who is mentally ill.  My response to that was regarding mental health professionals and how difficult it was to get the people diagnosed.  Although it was not a direct answer to your question, that's what I was referring to.   

It's been proven over and over that these mass killers are almost all young men with mental problems, who are loners and social miss-fits.  How that gets addressed, or if it should just be ignored, I think is what we're discussing. 

[kroz]

Not that it is any of my business, but I too thought sup was misunderstood.  Sup's post merely dealt with the issue of Graham in SC.  He did not address the mental health debate.

I was surprised by Dori's response to his post.

Sorry Dori.