Malaysian Passenger-Jet Shot-Down Over Ukraine

Started by kit saginaw, July 17, 2014, 09:06:08 AM

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Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 17, 2014, 08:21:42 PM
Looks like Kalash is one of the "useful idiots"...
But, but but it must be true, Russia would never spew propaganda. :rolleyes:
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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
But, but but it must be true, Russia would never spew propaganda. :rolleyes:

And he proved it by sourcing Twitter...

walkstall

Quote from: kalash on July 17, 2014, 08:41:22 PM
Another opinion:

"The reporting on this incident has been ridiculous. There is ZERO evidence that this plane was shot down.
There is, however, evidence that the Boeing 777 has suffered a myriad of problems, including an FFA report warning this spring that without proper maintenance it could break up in flight. (Which appear to be what happened)
It concerns me that our usually careful journalists can only see this through the lens of the crisis in Ukraine. The NY Times, CNN, BBC reporters need to take a deep breath, and just report the facts.
The facts point to a flawed plane, which requires enormous and careful maintenance, which, having lost two of these behemoths of the sky, the Malaysians just are not capable of operating."

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Cryptic Bert

We're going to have to send his posts to the conspiracy forum...

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 17, 2014, 08:55:29 PM
And he proved it by sourcing Twitter...
Twitter? Well that settles it then, he must be right, Twitter is ranked up there with a reliability factor nearing that of WIKI. :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2014, 09:12:37 PM
Twitter? Well that settles it then, he must be right, Twitter is ranked up there with a reliability factor nearing that of WIKI. :lol:

I'm waiting for him to post a letter from his mom...

taxed

Quote from: kalash on July 17, 2014, 08:41:22 PM
Another opinion:

"The reporting on this incident has been ridiculous. There is ZERO evidence that this plane was shot down.
There is, however, evidence that the Boeing 777 has suffered a myriad of problems, including an FFA report warning this spring that without proper maintenance it could break up in flight. (Which appear to be what happened)
It concerns me that our usually careful journalists can only see this through the lens of the crisis in Ukraine. The NY Times, CNN, BBC reporters need to take a deep breath, and just report the facts.
The facts point to a flawed plane, which requires enormous and careful maintenance, which, having lost two of these behemoths of the sky, the Malaysians just are not capable of operating."

The plane could break up in flight?  Source that please.
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kit saginaw

Quote from: taxed on July 18, 2014, 02:35:28 AM
The plane could break up in flight?  Source that please.

He'd get more cred if he just accepted the truth, then tried to work Russian-patriotism into an apologetic our weekend-warriors committed a tactical blunder explanation. 
 
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-17/flight-mh17-and-the-role-of-ukraine-s-rebels


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Quote from: kit saginaw on July 18, 2014, 05:40:04 AM
He'd get more cred if he just accepted the truth, then tried to work Russian-patriotism into an apologetic our weekend-warriors committed a tactical blunder explanation. 
 
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-17/flight-mh17-and-the-role-of-ukraine-s-rebels

I bet Obama would love to embrace the plane had a mechanical failure and broke up on its own. The Limbaugh Theorem.
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AndyJackson

wow, CPF's very own govt-propaganda-troll  ?  Is this a first  ?  Must be doing something right if another country wants to poke around and sling bullshit at the site.

Kudos.

It would be a great conspiracy tale if we could establish that this IS the lost flight.  Just reappeared in time to cross paths with a missile that was headed for somebody else.  Cue Rod Serling.....

kalash

#40
All attention to Boing... While in the same area junta's shelling and bombardment continues, civilians die, about 2000 of them already,  but nobody cares, I guess they are not malaisyans...
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1679778.html

Solar

Quote from: kalash on July 18, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
All attention to Boing... While in the same area junta's shelling and bombardment continues, civilians die, about 2000 of them already,  but nobody cares, I guess they are not malaisyans...
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1679778.html
So you want to avoid the topic now that we know it was Russians that shot it down.
You're disgusting!
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taxed

Quote from: kalash on July 18, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
All attention to Boing... While in the same area junta's shelling and bombardment continues, civilians die, about 2000 of them already,  but nobody cares, I guess they are not malaisyans...
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1679778.html

Boeing?  The company you said builds planes that fall apart in the sky, yet won't provide a source?
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taxed

I just had a thought on both Malaysian flights, they both had questions about their flight path.  Interesting.
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quiller

Quote from: taxed on July 17, 2014, 03:01:02 PM
I'm waiting for them to blame the tea party.

QuoteJosh Marshall, publisher of Talking Points Memo, suggested this morning that the separatist "warlord" who may be responsible for shooting down a Malaysian airliner and killing nearly 300 people is, somehow, just like the Tea Party. After a quote noting that the "warlord" in question used to take part in Russian military reenactment battles, Marshall writes:

    So that's who you're dealing with: some mix of civil war reenactor or Tea Partier decked out in revolutionary garb, with a mix of reckless aggression and comical incompetence. Here we have them break into nursing homes to photographs senator's comatose wives; there Putin gives them heavy armaments designed for full scale land war in Europe.

Just to spell this out a bit, Marshall is connecting the mass murder of civilians by a "warlord" to the Tea Party via the (admittedly reprehensible) behavior of a single blogger who snuck into a nursing home and took photos of a Senator's ill wife.

This is the kind of juvenile writing (and thinking) that leads 14-year-olds to announce something is "just like" the holocaust. Inevitably that something, whatever it is, is not just like the holocaust and the comparison itself is offensive. Casually connecting the Tea Party to the mass killing of hundreds of people half a world away is unhinged. It tells us more about Marshall than it does about the Tea Party.

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/07/18/Josh-Marshall-Connects-Malaysian-Air-Shoot-Down-to-Tea-Party