LIB-ertarian Johnson has Lib Meltdown

[Cryptic Bert]

Johnson comes off as an SNL sketch. Played by Dana Carvey.

[quiller]

I thought I'd give his post a test and check to see what the testosterone level was regarding content.
No, I was not surprised in the least.

Genre: Formal
  Female = 568
  Male   = 554
  Difference = -14; 49.37%
  Verdict: Weak FEMALE

http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php#Analyze

Any bets he carries one in his purse?

[Solar]

Any bets he carries one in his purse?

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[walkstall]

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LOL it was working yesterday.   

[quiller]

LOL it was working yesterday.

I can still see my avatar and footer image, which come from the same site. The site itself doesn't respond to two different browsers.

[walkstall]

I can still see my avatar and footer image, which come from the same site. The site itself doesn't respond to two different browsers.

Right now all I see in your footer image is a black box with a black X. 

[quiller]

Right now all I see in your footer image is a black box with a black X.

I see both avatar and footer. Why this happens to me every election year is simply beyond me.....

[jrodefeld]

Do the names Frank Gaffney and Bridgett Gabriel mean anything to you?  These two individuals are influential members of the Anti-Islam Lobby in the United States.  Their covert propaganda has been filtered through various Right-Wing news outlets and through ostensibly Christian religious organizations.

Your support for the "War on Terror" and insistence that we are fighting a war against "radical Islam" is troubling because I fear you might have allowed yourselves to be swayed by misinformation campaigns perpetrated by groups that do not have your best interest at heart.

The journalist David Noriega wrote a great article recently called "Meet the Charming, Terrifying Face of the the Anti-Islam Lobby":

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby?utm_term=.brwQLRp2eg#.xnEEW13b5q

In fact, Noriega was interviewed on one of my favorite radio programs and podcasts, The Scott Horton Show:

http://scotthorton.org/interviews/93016-david-noriega-2/


I really encourage you to listen to this interview.  You owe it to yourself to at least have a good idea of what type of people are behind promoting the ideas you are parroting. 


When I was gone, it was quite comical to read that some of you think I'm not sufficiently a "man" or I've got low testosterone simply because I'm against aggressive war.  By that logic, we ought to chastise all men who oppose rape and murder for being girly-men, not sufficiently masculine. 

I understand that there are people who have gotten something positive from their time in the military.  There's no question that the military can instill positive values, discipline and things of that nature.  But people can get these values outside of the military as well. 

My main concern is about what the military is asking our soldiers to do to other people in other countries.  For those of you who served in Vietnam, you may feel like your time in the military helped you in some way.  But this "personal development" occurred at the expense of innocent Vietnamese who were murdered by the thousands.


I am not blaming people who participated in unjust wars if there was a draft and you really didn't have a choice.  But you shouldn't praise your "service" or pretend that what you were doing in the waging of an unjust war is morally defensible.  At best, you were a victim of temporary enslavement, forced to do the government's killing. 

I have to say that I admire the stand of Muhammad Ali, who refused on principle to fight in an unjust war.  He sacrificed a lot to take this stand, losing five years of his athletic prime when he was prohibited from boxing.  I don't expect everyone to have the courage to take a stand like this, but if more soldiers refused to comply with immoral orders, we could have averted untold numbers of war crimes and brought many unjust wars to an earlier end.

I've made this point before, but you seem to have ignored it thus far so it bears repeating.  You cannot be a supporter of limited, Constitutional government and be a supporter of military empire and a Defense budget of $700 Billion a year.  The growth of government has been the greatest under conditions of war.  Randolph Borne said "war is the health of the State".  If you continue to support these wars and offer unconditional and uncritical support for our military, then the government will continue to grow, the national debt will skyrocket, our liberties will be taken from us and eventually we'll be living under martial law and a Totalitarian State, unless we are all destroyed in a Nuclear War.

Murray Rothbard said that the issue of war and peace is at the heart of libertarianism.  Proponents of small government, whether they be libertarians or constitutional conservatives, must be anti-war or else they are complete frauds.

[Billy's bayonet]

Do the names Frank Gaffney and Bridgett Gabriel mean anything to you?  These two individuals are influential members of the Anti-Islam Lobby in the United States.  Their covert propaganda has been filtered through various Right-Wing news outlets and through ostensibly Christian religious organizations.

Your support for the "War on Terror" and insistence that we are fighting a war against "radical Islam" is troubling because I fear you might have allowed yourselves to be swayed by misinformation campaigns perpetrated by groups that do not have your best interest at heart.

The journalist David Noriega wrote a great article recently called "Meet the Charming, Terrifying Face of the the Anti-Islam Lobby":

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby?utm_term=.brwQLRp2eg#.xnEEW13b5q

In fact, Noriega was interviewed on one of my favorite radio programs and podcasts, The Scott Horton Show:

http://scotthorton.org/interviews/93016-david-noriega-2/


I really encourage you to listen to this interview.  You owe it to yourself to at least have a good idea of what type of people are behind promoting the ideas you are parroting. 


When I was gone, it was quite comical to read that some of you think I'm not sufficiently a "man" or I've got low testosterone simply because I'm against aggressive war.  By that logic, we ought to chastise all men who oppose rape and murder for being girly-men, not sufficiently masculine. 

I understand that there are people who have gotten something positive from their time in the military.  There's no question that the military can instill positive values, discipline and things of that nature.  But people can get these values outside of the military as well. 

My main concern is about what the military is asking our soldiers to do to other people in other countries.  For those of you who served in Vietnam, you may feel like your time in the military helped you in some way.  But this "personal development" occurred at the expense of innocent Vietnamese who were murdered by the thousands.


I am not blaming people who participated in unjust wars if there was a draft and you really didn't have a choice.  But you shouldn't praise your "service" or pretend that what you were doing in the waging of an unjust war is morally defensible.  At best, you were a victim of temporary enslavement, forced to do the government's killing. 

I have to say that I admire the stand of Muhammad Ali, who refused on principle to fight in an unjust war.  He sacrificed a lot to take this stand, losing five years of his athletic prime when he was prohibited from boxing.  I don't expect everyone to have the courage to take a stand like this, but if more soldiers refused to comply with immoral orders, we could have averted untold numbers of war crimes and brought many unjust wars to an earlier end.

I've made this point before, but you seem to have ignored it thus far so it bears repeating.  You cannot be a supporter of limited, Constitutional government and be a supporter of military empire and a Defense budget of $700 Billion a year.  The growth of government has been the greatest under conditions of war.  Randolph Borne said "war is the health of the State".  If you continue to support these wars and offer unconditional and uncritical support for our military, then the government will continue to grow, the national debt will skyrocket, our liberties will be taken from us and eventually we'll be living under martial law and a Totalitarian State, unless we are all destroyed in a Nuclear War.

Murray Rothbard said that the issue of war and peace is at the heart of libertarianism.  Proponents of small government, whether they be libertarians or constitutional conservatives, must be anti-war or else they are complete frauds.

Back after your Sabbatical I see and spewing a fresh load of horse manure.

So Now Islamic Terrorism is a figment of our imagination cooked up by these Boris and Natasha like characters who have the powers of evil comic book super villains using some sort of mind control machine I suppose. So says your new idol some guy named Noriega.

Listen up real good.

THE TERRORISTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRORISM, THUS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR ON TERROR. THEY are responsible for the steps the Govt must take to counter them. Every time you get your cojones groped at the airport, you can thank an Islamic Terrorist because they make it necessary to take such steps.

And stop making a fool of yourself over the Vietnam war, there was another case in which VIETNAMESE, killed more VIETNAMESE than AMERICAN BOMBS EVER DID....just like I told you is the case with Islamic terrorism. Once the American forces left, there was a bloody slaughter and a purge....ever heard of "boat People"? What do you think they were running from? The spill over of that war into Cambodia saw one of the worst genocides since WW2 the killing of perhaps 3 million Khmers by other Khmers, rather proves my point....AGAIN. It also proves that the "Domino theory" which was one of the basis for the Southeast Asian War  is also true. GO BACK AND RE READ THAT....cause the Domino theory is Alive and well today with Radical Islam.

Now I got a question for you.  If these mad dogs will do that to THEIR OWN PEOPLE, what do you think they will do to you as an American?

Now since you pulled Murray Rothbard out of your hat with "a person can't be a conservative blah blah blah"....here is something to chew on.....NATIONAL DEFENSE is one of the enumerated powers of Govt in the Constitution, roll it up & shove it up Murry's puckered asshole and light it on fire.

[quiller]

Every time some gutless punk too scared to volunteer for national service even DARES to tell me what Vietnam was all about, I get 100% amused.

This puke wasn't even alive then. This lying little fraud too scared to serve the very country ALLOWING him these rights he claims....?

He's trash. And from now on, he is mine. All mine, with the big red Q branded on his worthless and ignorant ass.

[walkstall]

I've made this point before, but you seem to have ignored it thus far

I have said it before.  When you post this much BS at a time, very few or no one at all will read it.  We are a TEA Conservative Political Forum.   Therefore your wasting your time.  But that's just my way of thinking. 

[quiller]

Back after your Sabbatical I see and spewing a fresh load of horse manure.

And stop making a fool of yourself over the Vietnam war, there was another case in which VIETNAMESE, killed more VIETNAMESE than AMERICAN BOMBS EVER DID....just like I told you is the case with Islamic terrorism. Once the American forces left, there was a bloody slaughter and a purge....ever heard of "boat People"? What do you think they were running from? The spill over of that war into Cambodia saw one of the worst genocides since WW2 the killing of perhaps 3 million Khmers by other Khmers, rather proves my point....AGAIN. It also proves that the "Domino theory" which was one of the basis for the Southeast Asian War  is also true. GO BACK AND RE READ THAT....cause the Domino theory is Alive and well today with Radical Islam.

Now I got a question for you.  If these mad dogs will do that to THEIR OWN PEOPLE, what do you think they will do to you as an American?

Now since you pulled Murray Rothbard out of your hat with "a person can't be a conservative blah blah blah"....here is something to chew on.....NATIONAL DEFENSE is one of the enumerated powers of Govt in the Constitution, roll it up & shove it up Murry's puckered asshole and light it on fire.

I see the writing of someone so oblivious to what freedom is and what it means to PRESERVE it that he cannot conceive of a regime which beheads people for religious beliefs --- or in Islam's case a refusal to adopt their death cult. He reads only the Israel-hating leftist nonsense which blames Jews for all Mideast woes and never the Saudi family funding such madness in that region. His world is simple if Jews only went away, but they will not and never will. That land is theirs and no amount of UN treason will change that.

O/T: BAE Lemur. Gotta freakin' love it! 

[Solar]

Do the names Frank Gaffney and Bridgett Gabriel mean anything to you?  These two individuals are influential members of the Anti-Islam Lobby in the United States.  Their covert propaganda has been filtered through various Right-Wing news outlets and through ostensibly Christian religious organizations.

Your support for the "War on Terror" and insistence that we are fighting a war against "radical Islam" is troubling because I fear you might have allowed yourselves to be swayed by misinformation campaigns perpetrated by groups that do not have your best interest at heart.

The journalist David Noriega wrote a great article recently called "Meet the Charming, Terrifying Face of the the Anti-Islam Lobby":

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby?utm_term=.brwQLRp2eg#.xnEEW13b5q

In fact, Noriega was interviewed on one of my favorite radio programs and podcasts, The Scott Horton Show:

http://scotthorton.org/interviews/93016-david-noriega-2/


I really encourage you to listen to this interview.  You owe it to yourself to at least have a good idea of what type of people are behind promoting the ideas you are parroting. 


When I was gone, it was quite comical to read that some of you think I'm not sufficiently a "man" or I've got low testosterone simply because I'm against aggressive war.  By that logic, we ought to chastise all men who oppose rape and murder for being girly-men, not sufficiently masculine. 

I understand that there are people who have gotten something positive from their time in the military.  There's no question that the military can instill positive values, discipline and things of that nature.  But people can get these values outside of the military as well. 

My main concern is about what the military is asking our soldiers to do to other people in other countries.  For those of you who served in Vietnam, you may feel like your time in the military helped you in some way.  But this "personal development" occurred at the expense of innocent Vietnamese who were murdered by the thousands.


I am not blaming people who participated in unjust wars if there was a draft and you really didn't have a choice.  But you shouldn't praise your "service" or pretend that what you were doing in the waging of an unjust war is morally defensible.  At best, you were a victim of temporary enslavement, forced to do the government's killing. 

I have to say that I admire the stand of Muhammad Ali, who refused on principle to fight in an unjust war.  He sacrificed a lot to take this stand, losing five years of his athletic prime when he was prohibited from boxing.  I don't expect everyone to have the courage to take a stand like this, but if more soldiers refused to comply with immoral orders, we could have averted untold numbers of war crimes and brought many unjust wars to an earlier end.

I've made this point before, but you seem to have ignored it thus far so it bears repeating.  You cannot be a supporter of limited, Constitutional government and be a supporter of military empire and a Defense budget of $700 Billion a year.  The growth of government has been the greatest under conditions of war.  Randolph Borne said "war is the health of the State".  If you continue to support these wars and offer unconditional and uncritical support for our military, then the government will continue to grow, the national debt will skyrocket, our liberties will be taken from us and eventually we'll be living under martial law and a Totalitarian State, unless we are all destroyed in a Nuclear War.

Murray Rothbard said that the issue of war and peace is at the heart of libertarianism.  Proponents of small government, whether they be libertarians or constitutional conservatives, must be anti-war or else they are complete frauds.

Pure unadulterated Bull Shit!!!

[Billy's bayonet]

I see the writing of someone so oblivious to what freedom is and what it means to PRESERVE it that he cannot conceive of a regime which beheads people for religious beliefs --- or in Islam's case a refusal to adopt their death cult. He reads only the Israel-hating leftist nonsense which blames Jews for all Mideast woes and never the Saudi family funding such madness in that region. His world is simple if Jews only went away, but they will not and never will. That land is theirs and no amount of UN treason will change that.

O/T: BAE Lemur. Gotta freakin' love it!

I don't think he has clue one about the religious divisions in Islam and the lust for supreme power to make "their" particular sect the paramount. The denial of the facts are almost fanatical in itself.

[jrodefeld]

Back after your Sabbatical I see and spewing a fresh load of horse manure.

So Now Islamic Terrorism is a figment of our imagination cooked up by these Boris and Natasha like characters who have the powers of evil comic book super villains using some sort of mind control machine I suppose. So says your new idol some guy named Noriega.

Listen up real good.

THE TERRORISTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRORISM, THUS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR ON TERROR. THEY are responsible for the steps the Govt must take to counter them. Every time you get your cojones groped at the airport, you can thank an Islamic Terrorist because they make it necessary to take such steps.

And stop making a fool of yourself over the Vietnam war, there was another case in which VIETNAMESE, killed more VIETNAMESE than AMERICAN BOMBS EVER DID....just like I told you is the case with Islamic terrorism. Once the American forces left, there was a bloody slaughter and a purge....ever heard of "boat People"? What do you think they were running from? The spill over of that war into Cambodia saw one of the worst genocides since WW2 the killing of perhaps 3 million Khmers by other Khmers, rather proves my point....AGAIN. It also proves that the "Domino theory" which was one of the basis for the Southeast Asian War  is also true. GO BACK AND RE READ THAT....cause the Domino theory is Alive and well today with Radical Islam.

Now I got a question for you.  If these mad dogs will do that to THEIR OWN PEOPLE, what do you think they will do to you as an American?

Now since you pulled Murray Rothbard out of your hat with "a person can't be a conservative blah blah blah"....here is something to chew on.....NATIONAL DEFENSE is one of the enumerated powers of Govt in the Constitution, roll it up & shove it up Murry's puckered asshole and light it on fire.

Terrorism is not a figment of our imaginations, but the threat we face from terrorism has very little to do with Islam per se.  If you have been plugged into conservative news outlets for years, then many of the views you are hearing will have been handed down from figures like Gaffney and Gabriele.  The reason people like this want you to be suspicion of Islam as a religion is that it gives them the pretext to launch and maintain their aggressive wars.  If you were to view terrorism as primarily a manifestation of blowback for our foreign policy, then the logical step would be to pull back and adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy instead.  If you keep getting stung by bees, you might want to consider ceasing to hit the hornets nest with a baseball bat.

Terrorists are responsible for their actions, true enough.  But if we understand that the anger which motivates their attacks has to do with resentment over our foreign policy, then it is reasonable to expect that when we cease our interventions into the middle east we will see fewer terrorist attacks.  Robert Pape has demonstrated that this is precisely what has happened historically. 

Terrorists are responsible for terrorism, but WE are responsible for how we respond to terrorist attacks.  You are acting like everything our government does as a response to terrorism is necessary and unavoidable.  Do you really think we should have a TSA that gropes us at airports?  Do you think it is necessary to sacrifice all our liberties?

Remember when Rahm Emmanuel said "never let a good crisis go to waste"?  Regardless of the causes of a crisis, governments will tend to use those crises to expand their own power even in ways that have nothing to do with responding to the crisis at hand.

Surely you don't think that invading Iraq was justified because Osama bin Laden carried out an attack on the World Trade Center, right?  Iraq, that had nothing to do with 9/11.  Iraq, the Secular nation that was opposed to Al Qaeda and radical Islamic groups.

I cannot fucking believe that you are defending the Vietnam War in 2016.  The Vietnam War was precipitated by a False Flag event perpetrated by our CIA.  This is known as the Gulf of Tonkin incident.  Over 60,000 Americans were killed in that war, and hundreds of thousands more were left with horrible PTSD, many who were crippled or ended up committing suicide.  Many more continue to be treated in our health care system for the scars, both mental and physical, they suffered during that unnecessary war.

You are defending this?!  I'm not personally attacking anyone who was drafted and had to go over and fight in that war.  To me, ya'll are the victims of a vicious foreign policy.  But don't continue to defend the war itself. 


Finally, national DEFENSE is one of the enumerated powers of the Constitution.  I can't believe I have to explain to grown-ass educated adults the difference between defense and aggression.  The Vietnam War was an undeclared, aggressive war that was sold based on propaganda and a False Flag event.  The Iraq War was an undeclared, aggressive war based on propaganda.

The only US War in the 20th century that could be remotely defended as being necessary for our National Defense was World War 2.  And World War 2 would not have happened had we not gotten involved in World War 1 a couple of decades earlier.

The Constitution does not permit the maintenance of military bases in 170 countries around the world.  Nor does it permit interfering in the internal affairs of other nations, overthrowing elected governments and installing puppet dictators.  It doesn't permit the sort of entangling alliance we have with the State of Israel.  Most of the foreign policy you evidently support is blatantly UN-constitutional.