Isolationist America

[Dori]

China may be the World's police next.  Who knows... ?  The only irony is that they're inherently isolationist.

You better pray they aren't. 

[kit saginaw]

You better pray they aren't.

America will probably reach a point where the other countries are today.  Rather muted.  We'll lease-out land-tracts for a Chinese air-base and naval-base.  That's about it, I think... if things continue on the path we're on.  We owe China trillion$.  We allow them to hack us at-will.   

[zewazir]

Having lived and traveled in these ME and Asian countries, I can tell you the root problem with establishing democracies outside of the West is the total ignorance of the general populations.  They are generally uneducated and incapable of making sophisticated decisions about governance.  There is a lack of understanding about governments in general.  They are only knowledgeable spiritually...... whether it be by the Imam in the mosque or the tribal shaman...... that is the extent of their understanding.  Beyond that they work their fields and raise another generation of ignorant children.  Education is not valued.  And they are so-o-o easily influenced by their spiritual leaders.... much like adult children following their spiritual guru.  And they trust no one outside of their own communities.

With that scenario it is impossible to come into a third world Nation and establish democracy.  They just want someone to tell them what to do.  They are incapable of thinking for themselves.

And this is functionally different from the larger U.S. cities how?

They are generally uneducated and incapable of making sophisticated decisions about governance.  There is a lack of understanding about governments in general.  They are only educated as far as the government operated public schools want them to be - that is the extent of their understanding.  Beyond that they cash their welfare checks, buy high priced prepared meals with their SNAP cards and raise another generation of ignorant children.  Education is not valued.  And they are so-o-o easily influenced by their political leaders.... much like adult children following their spiritual guru.  And they trust no one outside of their own communities.

See what I mean, Vern? 

[kroz]

And this is functionally different from the larger U.S. cities how?See what I mean, Vern? 

Yes, I have said it before and I will say it again.......... WE are becoming the nation we used to feel sorry for and try to help.

...... so WHO feels sorry for us and helps us????   

[red_dirt]

The kind of isolationism we could use comes from the Kenny Rogers song, "Coward of the County,"
"You could have heard a pin drop, when he turned and locked the door."

[Darth Fife]

Would you vote for a candidate who wouldn't start any military campaigns outside of the US? It seems like we poured enough money into all those desert Arab countries to bring democracy there. For some reason all of them turned into jihadist states ravaged by civil wars. Maybe it's time to stop supporting different militant Muslim groups and care more about domestic policies? We surely have enough things to spend our money on.

I would definitely vote for a Conservative candidate who wouldn't start any wars (military campaigns) either inside or outside of the U.S. for the simple reason that the U.S. Political Class (including Republicans and Democrats) have forgotten that the purpose of war is to defeat the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible!

In a way, the Political Class and the Military Industrial Complex are akin to the Pharmaceutical Conglomerates. They have realized that the real money is in treating the illness, not producing a cure!

[darroll]

Starting any wars?

Can we defend ourselves?

[kroz]

Starting any wars?

Can we defend ourselves?

Apparently not...... with some of our members!

I don't think we have been in the business of "starting" wars around the world!!   

[supsalemgr]

The kind of isolationism we could use comes from the Kenny Rogers song, "Coward of the County,"
"You could have heard a pin drop, when he turned and locked the door."

The good news is that with the proper executive leadership we would only need to "turn and lock the door" one time and the world would realize the US is back as a leader.  Our allies would be very pleased and relieved.

[Darth Fife]

Starting any wars?

Can we defend ourselves?

Absolutely!

[Blacky]

Starting any wars?

Can we defend ourselves?

If we were isolationist we'd have to defend. But the policy that the US government conduct is the reason why our country doesn't need to defend against some enemy. We have NATO which is the most powerful military alliance on the planet.
Should the US conduct isolationist policy? Mm, for me it's like taking monastic vows after helling around for the half of life 

[kroz]

If we were isolationist we'd have to defend. But the policy that the US government conduct is the reason why our country doesn't need to defend against some enemy. We have NATO which is the most powerful military alliance on the planet.
Should the US conduct isolationist policy? Mm, for me it's like taking monastic vows after helling around for the half of life 

Who are you kidding? 

NATO sat on it's collective hands and allowed Russia to invade the Ukraine and annex Crimea!

NATO sits by and allows hundreds of thousands of innocent Christians be massacred in cold blood!

NATO has done ZERO to stop the worldwide violence and terrorism.

NATO is a paper tiger!

What have you been smoking?

[Solar]

Who are you kidding? 

NATO sat on it's collective hands and allowed Russia to invade the Ukraine and annex Crimea!

NATO sits by and allows hundreds of thousands of innocent Christians be massacred in cold blood!

NATO has done ZERO to stop the worldwide violence and terrorism.

NATO is a paper tiger!

What have you been smoking?

He never said they were competent.
I'm with you, NATO is an alliance of convenience to one another, but in truth, pretty damn worthless anymore.

[daidalos]

America tried Isolationism once, it wound up embroiling us in one of the worst wars in history, in addition to opening the nation up to one of the worst attacks upon our sovereignty in our nations brief history.

Our own history, in addition to the "appeasement" policies of folks like Chamberlain, show us quite clearly and emphatically that "isolationism" doesn't work.

And isn't in the nations best interests.

[kroz]

America tried Isolationism once, it wound up embroiling us in one of the worst wars in history, in addition to opening the nation up to one of the worst attacks upon our sovereignty in our nations brief history.

Our own history, in addition to the "appeasement" policies of folks like Chamberlain, show us quite clearly and emphatically that "isolationism" doesn't work.

And isn't in the nations best interests.

True...... but it gets you mega votes on election day!