Japan is to make her choice.

Started by rainbowman, January 09, 2017, 01:31:47 AM

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When Japanese PM Shinzo Abe has braved it to visit the Russian city of Sochi.... against the will of Washington I got encouraged.... a bit. Really, I applauded. I think the time has arrived for Japan to choose the country to side with. Should it be Russia (able to let more Japanese investments into disputed lands) or the USA (where 59% of residents believe the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified!)? Russia is far better choice imo.
Some experts assert that American nuclear barbarity was meant to humiliate the USSR. What if America will again decide to humiliate Russia? I hate Japan be forced even into some minor sacrificing! Investments into Russia look much more promising for Japan, I think.

Solar

And I think you're a fuckin idiot for your lack of historical knowledge.
Japan was warned after cowardly attacking Hawaii, even after the first bomb was dropped, your cowardly "God" was still willing to sacrifice more lives for no other reason than personal pride.
Don't be such a dumb Fuck, learn the true history behind the months leading up to Japan's cowardly attack on America.

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Quote from: rainbowman on January 09, 2017, 01:31:47 AM
When Japanese PM Shinzo Abe has braved it to visit the Russian city of Sochi.... against the will of Washington I got encouraged.... a bit. Really, I applauded. I think the time has arrived for Japan to choose the country to side with. Should it be Russia (able to let more Japanese investments into disputed lands) or the USA (where 59% of residents believe the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified!)? Russia is far better choice imo.
Some experts assert that American nuclear barbarity was meant to humiliate the USSR. What if America will again decide to humiliate Russia? I hate Japan be forced even into some minor sacrificing! Investments into Russia look much more promising for Japan, I think.

Are you really serious that Truman decided to drop two atomic bombs on Japan to humiliate Russia?

Japan is not about to drop the US in favor of Russia. They are smart enough to know the US the country that will defend them from China, not Russia.
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zewazir

Quote from: rainbowman on January 09, 2017, 01:31:47 AM
(where 59% of residents believe the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified!)
LOL and 41% are brainwashed ignorant twits whose rewritten history belongs on the fiction shelves of the local library.

Quote from: rainbowman on January 09, 2017, 01:31:47 AMSome experts assert that American nuclear barbarity was meant to humiliate the USSR.
Nuclear barbarity? Ever hear of the Bataan death march? THAT was barbarity. Soldiers hiding behind women and children to support their counter-attack against U.S. Marines: THAT is barbarity.  The decision to use a new weapon capable of killing a few hundred thousand with a single bomb was anything BUT barbarity. Barbarity would have been choosing to continue conventional bombings - which were killing Japanese by the 100,000 per mission, but which were not convincing the Japanese Imperium of the need to surrender, along with the anticipated invasion of Japanese main Islands with an anticipated casualty rate of over 1 million Allied, and an additional 10 million Japanese casualties from both continued conventional bombings and the ground invasion. Choosing to kill millions to avoid the UKNOWN AT THAT TIME side effects of using fission bombs - THAT would have been barbarity.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/the-pacific-war-1941-to-1945/operation-downfall/

And to claim the TRUE purpose was to "humiliate" Russia - talk about historical fiction, right along side works like "The Man in the High Castle."

Me thinks idiocy at this level will not last long here.....

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Quote from: zewazir on January 09, 2017, 02:19:48 PM

Me thinks idiocy at this level will not last long here.....

I would say it is a hit and run post.  That why I move it.
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Solar

Quote from: zewazir on January 09, 2017, 02:19:48 PM
LOL and 41% are brainwashed ignorant twits whose rewritten history belongs on the fiction shelves of the local library.
Nuclear barbarity? Ever hear of the Bataan death march? THAT was barbarity. Soldiers hiding behind women and children to support their counter-attack against U.S. Marines: THAT is barbarity.  The decision to use a new weapon capable of killing a few hundred thousand with a single bomb was anything BUT barbarity. Barbarity would have been choosing to continue conventional bombings - which were killing Japanese by the 100,000 per mission, but which were not convincing the Japanese Imperium of the need to surrender, along with the anticipated invasion of Japanese main Islands with an anticipated casualty rate of over 1 million Allied, and an additional 10 million Japanese casualties from both continued conventional bombings and the ground invasion. Choosing to kill millions to avoid the UKNOWN AT THAT TIME side effects of using fission bombs - THAT would have been barbarity.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-two/the-pacific-war-1941-to-1945/operation-downfall/

And to claim the TRUE purpose was to "humiliate" Russia - talk about historical fiction, right along side works like "The Man in the High Castle."

Me thinks idiocy at this level will not last long here.....
Be assured, this moron never had any intention of backing up this bull shit, it was a planned drive-by assault.
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I was trying to figure out if he was Japanese or Russian, that way I'd have known how to piss him off over the 1904 Russo Japanese war or Manchuria and the 50th paralellel.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on January 09, 2017, 07:34:18 AM
Are you really serious that Truman decided to drop two atomic bombs on Japan to humiliate Russia?

Japan is not about to drop the US in favor of Russia. They are smart enough to know the US the country that will defend them from China, not Russia.

It wasn't to humiliate Russia, but it was (in part) to intimidate Russia.
That, and the main purpose being to persuade Japan to surrender.

Any change in Japanese alignment will not be based on
conditions that existed 70 years ago.

If Hil-LIAR-y had been elected, Japan might have changed alignment
because of the resulting final collapse of American power.
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