Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times

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TboneAgain

Quote from: AndyJackson on August 19, 2014, 10:37:52 AM
It's a cut & dry, open & shut case.

Waiting to be deliberately confused to appease a special group.

From a law enforcement perspective, yes. But what's happening in Ferguson and St. Louis right now has little to do with law enforcement.

We are knee-deep in the cheapest, crudest form of politics -- race-baiting. Whether Michael Brown's shooting death was a 'righteous' use of police force stopped being a relevant question a week ago, about the time Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton announced their travel plans.

Ferguson is a poster child for modern racial strife. The town has undergone a spate of "white flight" that has seen its population mix change from 3/4 white in 1990 to nearly 3/4 black today. Adding to this ugly mix is the predictable lag in administrative turnover -- most of the people responsible for running Ferguson today are still white people. THIS IS THE RESULT OF OPEN ELECTIONS. The voters of Ferguson, roughly 70% of whom are black, have freely elected a white mayor and filled five seats on a six-member city council with white people.

In any case, there is no pattern of racism here. There's no systemic persecution or discrimination based on race. In any town where the population is 70% black, one would be stupid to expect that anything but a majority of arrests would involve black people.

There is merely an opportunity, similar to the one that occurred in Sanford, FL a couple years ago, to construct a narrative of racial hatred. It is not mere coincidence that the Trayvon Martin circus and this one immediately preceded important national elections. Martin was shot in February, 2012, but his case didn't achieve national prominence until late in the summer of that year. An earlier spotlight would have allowed the affair to die down before it had its intended effect on the 2012 elections. The Trayvon Martin case was a nothingburger that was purposely, carefully turned into national "news" during the pre-election summer of 2012 by NBC, a network guilty of doctoring audio recordings of the 911 call, and ABC, a network guilty of doctoring video and photographic evidence of George Zimmerman's injuries. The biggest difference between the two cases is the fact that Brown's death was more auspiciously timed (from the Democrat race-baiters' point of view) and thus didn't require the careful timing that characterized the media's treatment of the Martin/Zimmerman case.
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 19, 2014, 05:34:37 PM
From a law enforcement perspective, yes. But what's happening in Ferguson and St. Louis right now has little to do with law enforcement.

We are knee-deep in the cheapest, crudest form of politics -- race-baiting. Whether Michael Brown's shooting death was a 'righteous' use of police force stopped being a relevant question a week ago, about the time Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton announced their travel plans.

Ferguson is a poster child for modern racial strife. The town has undergone a spate of "white flight" that has seen its population mix change from 3/4 white in 1990 to nearly 3/4 black today. Adding to this ugly mix is the predictable lag in administrative turnover -- most of the people responsible for running Ferguson today are still white people. THIS IS THE RESULT OF OPEN ELECTIONS. The voters of Ferguson, roughly 70% of whom are black, have freely elected a white mayor and filled five seats on a six-member city council with white people.

In any case, there is no pattern of racism here. There's no systemic persecution or discrimination based on race. In any town where the population is 70% black, one would be stupid to expect that anything but a majority of arrests would involve black people.

There is merely an opportunity, similar to the one that occurred in Sanford, FL a couple years ago, to construct a narrative of racial hatred. It is not mere coincidence that the Trayvon Martin circus and this one immediately preceded important national elections. Martin was shot in February, 2012, but his case didn't achieve national prominence until late in the summer of that year. An earlier spotlight would have allowed the affair to die down before it had its intended effect on the 2012 elections. The Trayvon Martin case was a nothingburger that was purposely, carefully turned into national "news" during the pre-election summer of 2012 by NBC, a network guilty of doctoring audio recordings of the 911 call, and ABC, a network guilty of doctoring video and photographic evidence of George Zimmerman's injuries. The biggest difference between the two cases is the fact that Brown's death was more auspiciously timed (from the Democrat race-baiters' point of view) and thus didn't require the careful timing that characterized the media's treatment of the Martin/Zimmerman case.
Exactly right! If the POTUS (blech) wanted this to end, he could do it in one press conference.
Simply tell the people the truth, that a thug tried to kill a cop and died instead.

That would end this nonsense, but that's not what the left wants, they want riots, they want death, they want the distraction.
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6 or 8 wounds.......The crime scene and the officer surrendered weapon will tell how many rounds werew expended, if it is only 6 Its not all that hard to understand, Ballistics are never a consistient science. Bullets tend to travel along the least path of resistance, bullets often fragment when they hit bone/thick tissue, particularly hollow points most LEO use in their duty weapon.

My surmise as a former Homicide dick would be that the shots hitting Brown in the arm passed through the softer tissue or glanced off bone and continued on into the rib cage
or other areas of the upper body.

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Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2014, 05:56:09 PM
Exactly right! If the POTUS (blech) wanted this to end, he could do it in one press conference.
Simply tell the people the truth, that a thug tried to kill a cop and died instead.

That would end this nonsense, but that's not what the left wants, they want riots, they want death, they want the distraction.
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Well, what the Left really wants is votes. I don't think the Left really wants riots and death and mayhem -- unless those things get them more votes. Of course, this entire affair is an expose of the Left, a laying out of their real goals and intentions, but maybe -- just maybe -- this will be the one that finally exposes the mainstream media Democrat whores for who they really are.
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Solar

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 19, 2014, 06:02:07 PM
6 or 8 wounds.......The crime scene and the officer surrendered weapon will tell how many rounds werew expended, if it is only 6 Its not all that hard to understand, Ballistics are never a consistient science. Bullets tend to travel along the least path of resistance, bullets often fragment when they hit bone/thick tissue, particularly hollow points most LEO use in their duty weapon.

My surmise as a former Homicide dick would be that the shots hitting Brown in the arm passed through the softer tissue or glanced off bone and continued on into the rib cage
or other areas of the upper body.
Assuming he still most likely had at least 7 rounds remaining, I'd say he showed restraint, and wasn't shooting out of control in a panic situation.
It appears he was well trained. But no training in the world prepares you for the aftermath of the race baiters..
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Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
Assuming he still most likely had at least 7 rounds remaining, I'd say he showed restraint, and wasn't shooting out of control in a panic situation.
It appears he was well trained. But no training in the world prepares you for the aftermath of the race baiters..

The officer would have been justified emptying every round he had into the thug.

The fact he didn't, the fact he stopped firing once the threat was down/gone does indeed show restraint.

Especially given the nature of the injuries the officer recieved at the hands of this thug.
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Now the story changes again.  Instead of claiming his back was turned or he was a gentle giant, now it has progressed to, "there is no reason to shoot an unarmed man 6 times even if he has assaulted you and tried to take your gun and is charging you".  Well did they ever think the first four shots which grazed his right arm actually hit exactly what the officer was aiming at"?  Did they ever consider maybe the first four shots were an attempt NOT to kill MB?

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Quote from: LibDave on August 21, 2014, 02:08:36 AM
Now the story changes again.  Instead of claiming his back was turned or he was a gentle giant, now it has progressed to, "there is no reason to shoot an unarmed man 6 times even if he has assaulted you and tried to take your gun and is charging you".  Well did they ever think the first four shots which grazed his right arm actually hit exactly what the officer was aiming at"?  Did they ever consider maybe the first four shots were an attempt NOT to kill MB?

Right. MAYBE he didn't miss when he shot him in the arm (serious).  Al;so, if you're attacked by any wild animal (yeah, I said it!--Mark Levin), you fire until the threrat is eliminated! he has my blessing!

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Quote from: LibDave on August 21, 2014, 02:08:36 AM
Now the story changes again.  Instead of claiming his back was turned or he was a gentle giant, now it has progressed to, "there is no reason to shoot an unarmed man 6 times even if he has assaulted you and tried to take your gun and is charging you".  Well did they ever think the first four shots which grazed his right arm actually hit exactly what the officer was aiming at"?  Did they ever consider maybe the first four shots were an attempt NOT to kill MB?
And stoned giants with bad attitudes often run through 3-4 shots, unless you put one right down the pike to the brain or heart.  They say he probably kept coming even after the eye shot.  Took the 6th to shut it down.

This is the only excuse they have left, and one that has no possible merit in a courtroom.  But they (Obama / Holder) will probably try to finesse it into a civil suit.

It's all about the reparations.  Superficially for Brown & family, and more completely for the whole community of Ferguson against "the man".

walkstall

St. Louis Medical Examiner SLAMS Brown Family Hire.

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The chief medical examiner of St. Louis County, who performed the first autopsy on Michael Brown after he was shot on Aug. 9, says that she is concerned by one of the men hired by the Brown family to conduct its own exam.

"I can tell you absolutely that I find what Parcells does to be abysmal," Dr. Mary Case told The Daily Caller when asked about Shawn Parcells, a Kansas-based forensic pathologist assistant. He has been accused in the past of fabricating his job title and of conducting autopsies without a license.


more @
http://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-medical-examiner-slams-brown-family-hire-172036981.html
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quiller

Quote from: walkstall on August 21, 2014, 09:32:18 PM
St. Louis Medical Examiner SLAMS Brown Family Hire.

snip~
The chief medical examiner of St. Louis County, who performed the first autopsy on Michael Brown after he was shot on Aug. 9, says that she is concerned by one of the men hired by the Brown family to conduct its own exam.

"I can tell you absolutely that I find what Parcells does to be abysmal," Dr. Mary Case told The Daily Caller when asked about Shawn Parcells, a Kansas-based forensic pathologist assistant. He has been accused in the past of fabricating his job title and of conducting autopsies without a license.


more @
http://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-medical-examiner-slams-brown-family-hire-172036981.html

Read, Democrat. Can't wait for him to autopsy the TABLE and declare it died from homicide.

walkstall

Quote from: quiller on August 21, 2014, 09:37:44 PM
Read, Democrat. Can't wait for him to autopsy the TABLE and declare it died from homicide.

This family is looking to make a bundle on a wrongful death suite.  Holder and b o are there to help them.
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TboneAgain

Quote from: walkstall on August 21, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
This family is looking to make a bundle on a wrongful death suite.  Holder and b o are there to help them.

Didn't Trayvon Martin's family try the same thing? The difference in the Ferguson case is that there's actually a deep pocket that might pay -- the city itself. George Zimmerman was never a city employee.
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walkstall

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 21, 2014, 10:19:59 PM
Didn't Trayvon Martin's family try the same thing? The difference in the Ferguson case is that there's actually a deep pocket that might pay -- the city itself. George Zimmerman was never a city employee.

One way or the other, the taxpayer will be footing the bill(s) for this for a long time.    I also see the insurance rates going up big time for everyone in that area.
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TboneAgain

Quote from: walkstall on August 21, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
One way or the other, the taxpayer will be footing the bill(s) for this for a long time.    I also see the insurance rates going up big time for everyone in that area.

Yes, the taxpayer will foot the bill. That's not exactly news. Yes, it will take a long time before the case is settled. But...

I look for this case to fade pretty quickly. I have a number of reasons for saying so, not the least of which is the fact that every piece of evidence that comes to light supports the cop in the case. But there's a more fundamental reason for this case to fade away.

Within the next two months, it won't matter any more. By late October, the Democrats won't be able to beat another reluctant vote out of this ugly horse, and they'll stop squirting money on it.

Michael Brown will join his brethren in the police hall of dumbass perps that get shot and die. Michael Brown would never have been elected to any office. Michael Brown would never have achieved any fame. Michael Brown would never have even raised a decent family. Michael Brown will be just one more shit-for-brains perpetrator of minor crimes who thought he was bigger and tougher than he really was.

Right now, Michael Brown is being used by the race-baiting Democrat party to raise funds and score points. When the time comes, the Democrat party will be exposed as the racists they are, and Michael Brown will be buried and forgotten.
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