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General Category => Religion Forum => Topic started by: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 10:01:16 AM

Title: Kasich and the 1st amendment
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
QuoteKasich tells supporters of religious freedom laws: 'Get over it'

John Kasich doesn't seem to care much about the 1st amendment.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kasich-tells-supporters-of-religious-freedom-laws-get-over-it/article/2588757?custom_click=rss

Quote"There is a legitimate concern for people being able to have their deeply held religious beliefs, religious liberty," he said. "But there's also people who we shouldn't be discriminating against. We need to have a balance."

"And I just wish that everybody would just take a breath and calm down, because you see, trying to figure out how to legislate that balance is complicated and you keep doing do-overs, because nobody gets it right," he said.

It's often referred to as "Freedom of Association", from the 1st Amendment... yeah the one that's under assalt lately by liberal college professors and ignorant students.  Freedom to associate or dis-associate yourself with other groups or individuals is pretty basic.  But liberal politicians can't seem to grasp the concept.  Take away that right, and are we going to start having Government rallys with YOUR attendance required (or jail time)?  Show your patriotism or face penalties/taxes and/or loss of your government given liberty.

Oh my GOD!!!   (channeling Levin for effect...)  They'd never do that!  This is a free country, they can't make it mandatory you attend a government event!   Obama-care.  You will participate or else. 

QuoteCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It all goes together.  Start picking it apart, denying part here, adding goofy stuff there, and it becomes meaningless.
There is no "right to not be offended" - although it would appear that's much more important to John Kasich than the 1st Amendment.

Oh, yeah, in case you think Donald Trump is going to vigorously protect your 1st amendment rights - sorry!   He's for implementing measures to allow parties to SUE YOUR ASS for what otherwise would be protected under the 1st Amendment.
Title: Re: Kasich and the 1st amendment
Post by: tac on April 18, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
Lefties want to abolish the 1st Amendment, unless it benefits their causes.
Title: Re: Kasich and the 1st amendment
Post by: je_freedom on April 19, 2016, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 18, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
John Kasich:

"There is a legitimate concern for people being able to have
their deeply held religious beliefs, religious liberty," he said.
"But there's also people who we shouldn't be discriminating against.
We need to have a balance."

John Kerry:

"I actually voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it."
Title: Re: Kasich and the 1st amendment
Post by: daidalos on April 20, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: tac on April 18, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
Lefties want to abolish the 1st Amendment, unless it benefits their causes.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/20/bid-to-override-haslam-veto-bible-as-tennessee-book-fails.html

So do some over on the "right" side of the aisle.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/20/bid-to-override-haslam-veto-bible-as-tennessee-book-fails.html

Legislating any particular religion's texts and or scriptures, as having any sort of legal standing.

Is every bit as dangerous to the liberty or our republic. The very first thing the framers did, when adding the bill of rights, was to ensure government's ability to legislate and "tell us" anything about religion, one way or another was very limited.

As in non existent limited. Yep that's right ladies and gents, this is precisely why, these "hate crimes" bull crap you keep hearing about.

Are absolutely un-Constititutional.

They, for the first time, attempt to criminalize thought. Not intent to commit a criminal act, that's already on the books.

Not the actual criminal act itself. But the reasoning, the thought or lack thereof depending on how you see it.

If we allow that as a republic, then we also run the very dangerous risk, of opening the door to government walking in and telling us, today. How you interpret say the Bible is wrong, so we're going to criminalize that. And tomorrow, "How you interpret the torah is wrong so it's off to the prisons for you now" and on down the line as it see's fit.

America will be like ancient Rome was. With a new state religion depending on who happens to be in power at the time.

Kasich as usual shows his liberal leftist socialist leanings. In throwing out the Constitutional limits placed on government when it comes to the first amendment of the Constitution. And instead pushing something which is just like Obamacare, absolutely un-Constitutional folks.

That what ya's want sitting in the Oval office? I sure don't. Sorry Kasich, I might be an Ohioan, but my first loyalty is to God, followed very closely after by the U.S. Constitution. The answer is simple though, really.

Government, stay the hell out of the issue altogether as the Constitution tells you to do. Voila problem solved.

Not that complex is it ladies and gents.