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Title: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 01, 2013, 05:38:14 PM
Really it is!  Now stop lying about them!

The one taking the bullet to the head is pastor Terry Jones who dared to protest Islam and burn the book that commands that all infidels be killed or enslaved.(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weeklystandard.com%2Fsites%2Fall%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Finspire.preview.jpg&hash=4405122b08e30037a856234f51bbe36e9e7d9343)
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 01, 2013, 06:24:49 PM
You need to settle yourself down, son. Did Jesus make His impession with a sword?
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 02, 2013, 04:42:32 AM
Yeah "son". And even WHIPS! Get tho know the REAL "Jesus"

How the Lefty (and Rat) View the Wonderful world of Islam

Again, Rat can't deal with ISSUES, so he disrupts a thread and attacks the poster.

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Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 05:16:54 AM
 :lol:

I'm glad I don't live inside your head. I can almost smell the smoke coming out of your ears, from my house. :laugh:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2013, 05:32:14 AM
Love the wanted poster, was their a link to the article at Weekly Standard?
What Religion Kills in the name of a pedophile?

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Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 02, 2013, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 05:16:54 AM
:lol:

I'm glad I don't live inside your head. I can almost smell the smoke coming out of your ears, from my house. :laugh:

Love how you can read minds.

I simply post a flyer from ISLAM and you accuse me of "taking up the sword."  Do you only respond to me after you've had a few???  You NEVER respond to the point I make when I post, you only go after me PERSONALLY. You've done that ever since you became offended when I posted about the origins of THAT church and how they persecuted the Church of God wherever Simon Magus' church gained political power.  Get over it. I will not modify the Truth, as I understand it, because someone will allow themselves to be offended.

And it is I who lives inside YOUR head--rent free. I see it with every one of your responses to me. Now go have a few and post a witty response!
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 02, 2013, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 05:32:14 AM
Love the wanted poster, was their a link to the article at Weekly Standard?
What Religion Kills in the name of a pedophile?

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Sorry. Forgot the link

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/al-qaeda-mag-publishes-wanted-dead-or-alive-list_704904.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/al-qaeda-mag-publishes-wanted-dead-or-alive-list_704904.html)
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: Yawn on March 02, 2013, 01:34:02 PM
Love how you can read minds.

I simply post a flyer from ISLAM and you accuse me of "taking up the sword."  Do you only respond to me after you've had a few???  You NEVER respond to the point I make when I post, you only go after me PERSONALLY. You've done that ever since you became offended when I posted about the origins of THAT church and how they persecuted the Church of God wherever Simon Magus' church gained political power.  Get over it. I will not modify the Truth, as I understand it, because someone will allow themselves to be offended.

And it is I who lives inside YOUR head--rent free. I see it with every one of your responses to me. Now go have a few and post a witty response!

It's nothing personal. I think your post that implied that the Catholic church is the church of the devil, offended quite a few people on here. I wasn't one of them. I just think blanket statements like that don't do anyone any good.

Don't worry about me. I'm just here to remind you when your posts start sounding like they're coming from an extremist. Again, it's nothing personal; I just want to let the casual observers of this forum to know, that your views are not necessarily what the majority of us feel.

When you start posting in CAPS, I know your head is starting to spin.

By all means, carry on. I don't even mind if you call me rat. :wink:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Didn't Randall Terry convert to Catholicism?
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Didn't Randall Terry convert to Catholicism?

Who's Randall Terry?

I just signed back in to take back part of my last post. I was offended. My Mother was a devout Catholic, and she was no devil worshipper. I don't hold grudges though. If I hear any more statements like that, I will respond.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2013, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
Who's Randall Terry?

I just signed back in to take back part of my last post. I was offended. My Mother was a devout Catholic, and she was no devil worshipper. I don't hold grudges though. If I hear any more statements like that, I will respond.
Silly boy, it was a serious question. I stumbled across it while reading about him some time back, the article alluded to either he, or his wife, but wasn't specific, that's why I asked.
Now unbunch your shorts, it was not a directed insult.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 02:09:16 PM
Silly boy, it was a serious question. I stumbled across it while reading about him some time back, the article alluded to either he, or his wife, but wasn't specific, that's why I asked.
Now unbunch your shorts, it was not a directed insult.

I'm not bunched up. :laugh:

I really didn't know who he was. I just looked it up. :smile:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2013, 03:02:07 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 02, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
I'm not bunched up. :laugh:

I really didn't know who he was. I just looked it up. :smile:
He's the guy in Yawns poster.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 02, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2013, 02:01:28 PM
Didn't Randall Terry convert to Catholicism?

Yes, Randal Terry converted to Catholicism.  The man being shot in the head in the poster is Terry Jones--the pastor that everyone considers a "kook" because he dared to burn that unholy book and stand in protest in Dearbornistan at the beautiful abomination. Because a Christian PROTESTS Islam, the left leaning will equate HIM with Islamic TERRORISTS who strap bombs to themselves and blow up the innocent. Only a TRUE kook would consider the peaceful Christian protester with an Islamic terrorist.

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And Rat, I pretty much skim past your posts because of the nature of your responses, but I noticed you now criticize my use of caps.

Here's the rule:

Use of ALL CAPS in a couple sentence is seen as SHOUTING.  Capitalizing a word or two signifies emphasis. It's a habit I picked up from the early days of the internet before bolding and underlining. Most **bolded** their words like this, if I remember correctly. Caps serve the same purposes. Sorry you're so easily offended by everything.  And I don't give a damn where you or your mother attend church. Has nothing to do with what's provable and verifiable. People should always strive to learn the TRUTH and be willing to drop their TRADITIONS

In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine, the commandments of men -- Yeshua (aka Jesus)
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
What's the point here?

Is this Terry Jones guy supposed to be some kind of Christian hero, because he deliberately antagonizes the muslims?

Is he attempting to start a US holy war?

Did anything good come from torching the koran?

If you idolize people like this, you've got a pretty twisted view of Christianity. :glare:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2013, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
What's the point here?

Is this Terry Jones guy supposed to be some kind of Christian hero, because he deliberately antagonizes the muslims?

Is he attempting to start a US holy war?

Did anything good come from torching the koran?

If you idolize people like this, you've got a pretty twisted view of Christianity. :glare:
So standing up to Religious oppression is a bad thing?
It's not like he's beheading people in the name of Religion. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2013, 02:49:44 PM
So standing up to Religious oppression is a bad thing?
It's not like he's beheading people in the name of Religion. :rolleyes:

True enough, but the poster that Yawn is using to depict evil islam, wouldn't exist if the guy didn't burn the koran.

I, (for one), don't think that all muslims are inherently evil. Why intentionally screw with them and burn what is their bible?

I'd be pissed, big time, if US muslims started torching the Christian bible.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2013, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 03:03:07 PM
True enough, but the poster that Yawn is using to depict evil islam, wouldn't exist if the guy didn't burn the koran.

I, (for one), don't think that all muslims are inherently evil. Why intentionally screw with them and burn what is their bible?

I'd be pissed, big time, if US muslims started torching the Christian bible.
It happens all the time.

Authorities in northwestern Iran seized 6,500 Bibles, according to the Iranian Christian news organization Mohabat News, which quotes an official as saying of the seizure that "all religions are strengthening their power to confront Islam; otherwise, what does this huge number of Bibles mean?" The agency has reported several other recent incidents of Bibles and other Christian literature being seized and sometimes publicly burned.

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Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2013, 03:17:50 PM
It happens all the time.

Authorities in northwestern Iran seized 6,500 Bibles, according to the Iranian Christian news organization Mohabat News, which quotes an official as saying of the seizure that "all religions are strengthening their power to confront Islam; otherwise, what does this huge number of Bibles mean?" The agency has reported several other recent incidents of Bibles and other Christian literature being seized and sometimes publicly burned.

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Are US muslims burning bibles?

Are US Chistians now embracing "an eye for an eye" mentality?
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2013, 04:10:14 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
Are US muslims burning bibles?

Are US Chistians now embracing "an eye for an eye" mentality?
Are Arab Muslims burning Korans? :rolleyes:

Come on K, what was the point of that nonsensical line of questioning?

Why is it wrong to tell Muscums to Fuck Off, we don't need your hate and intolerance of other Religions, why is it when someone here does it, it's a horrible thing, but when they do it, it is somehow justified?

Think about it, you can't draw a picture of Mohamad without reprisal, even possible death if they find you.

I have no idea where you get the idea that there is such a thing as a good muscum, if there were, they would be standing up and marching in the streets demanding the end of honor killings, and that killing in the name of Religion is wrong.
But they don't, and by this act of complicity, they are no better than the scum that are perpetuating this warped form of a political system.

Man, I'm starting to agree with yawn, put the bottle down, you are all over the map anymore.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 03, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
He's proving my point. THEY put out a flyer/poster advocating the MURDER of several men recognized as "enemies of Islam." Yet Rat only cries that this pastor exercised his FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

I think Muslim atrocities began LONG before Terry Jones burned a Koran. He was making the point of the works in the Book of Acts where the new converts BURNED their old pagan books.

Quote
QuoteA number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total came to fifty thousand drachmas. acts 19:19

No, Rat Kram, I don't "idolize" him, but I do RESPECT him on this issue.

The issue of this thread is NOT Terry Jones. It is the poster. Why can't you muster the same anger towards THAT as you do towards Christians and others (Geert Wilders) whose only crime is that they warn their nations of the Muslim threat to your freedom?
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 03, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: kramarat on March 03, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
Are US muslims burning bibles?

Are US Chistians now embracing "an eye for an eye" mentality?

So Americans are only allowed to burn a koran AFTER Muslims gain a political majority and start burning Bibles and taking over your precious Catholic Church? When that day comes, you'll be PUT TO DEATH for speaking out against Islam.

You do understand that the only reason they don't do it here, is because they're a tiny percentage of the population and already have a reputation that's in the sewer. They have an interest in being the perpetual victim--it gives them political clout among the Libs and thew well meaning but naive "christians"
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: taxed on March 03, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
Very devout Christians go to other countries to spread the word of Christianity.  Quasi-devout Muzzies go to other countries to blow them up.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2013, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: taxed on March 03, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
Very devout Christians go to other countries to spread the word of Christianity.  Quasi-devout Muzzies go to other countries to blow them up.
That about sums it up. :laugh:
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 04, 2013, 03:06:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2013, 04:10:14 PM
Are Arab Muslims burning Korans? :rolleyes:

Come on K, what was the point of that nonsensical line of questioning?

Why is it wrong to tell Muscums to Fuck Off, we don't need your hate and intolerance of other Religions, why is it when someone here does it, it's a horrible thing, but when they do it, it is somehow justified?

Think about it, you can't draw a picture of Mohamad without reprisal, even possible death if they find you.

I have no idea where you get the idea that there is such a thing as a good muscum, if there were, they would be standing up and marching in the streets demanding the end of honor killings, and that killing in the name of Religion is wrong.
But they don't, and by this act of complicity, they are no better than the scum that are perpetuating this warped form of a political system.

Man, I'm starting to agree with yawn, put the bottle down, you are all over the map anymore.

Yeah right, I'm all over the map, and you guys are justifying koran burning in the US, where, if I'm not mistaken, religious freedom is guaranteed by the constitution.

Why should we stop at burning the koran? Lets just follow the entire Iranian model, and round up the muslims and imprison them. :glare:

Now, what we should be doing, is stopping all visas and immigration by new muslims, particularly while we're still at war with extremists. But the muslims that are US citizens should not be persecuted. You guys can't just suspend the constitution, and say that it's okay to go after people or religions that we don't like. If we were to allow ourselves to think like that, the constitution would have fallen apart a long time ago.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2013, 04:54:23 AM
Quote from: kramarat on March 04, 2013, 03:06:54 AM
Yeah right, I'm all over the map, and you guys are justifying koran burning in the US, where, if I'm not mistaken, religious freedom is guaranteed by the constitution.
That is exactly right, and colligated with that Right is another Right, the Right of Freedom of Speech, and burning a Koran is still a right no matter how disgusting you or anyone else thinks it is.
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Why should we stop at burning the koran? Lets just follow the entire Iranian model, and round up the muslims and imprison them. :glare:
And you wonder why I said you're all over the map?

QuoteNow, what we should be doing, is stopping all visas and immigration by new muslims, particularly while we're still at war with extremists. But the muslims that are US citizens should not be persecuted. You guys can't just suspend the constitution, and say that it's okay to go after people or religions that we don't like. If we were to allow ourselves to think like that, the constitution would have fallen apart a long time ago.

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

By speaking out against hate and persecution of Christians by a certain Religion, I am persecuting Muscums?
So if I were to stop speaking out about the heinous practices of a radical murderous group, that in your mind would be preserving the Constitution?

Did I get that right?
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 04, 2013, 05:17:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 04, 2013, 04:54:23 AM
That is exactly right, and colligated with that Right is another Right, the Right of Freedom of Speech, and burning a Koran is still a right no matter how disgusting you or anyone else thinks it is.And you wonder why I said you're all over the map?

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

By speaking out against hate and persecution of Christians by a certain Religion, I am persecuting Muscums?
So if I were to stop speaking out about the heinous practices of a radical murderous group, that in your mind would be preserving the Constitution?

Did I get that right?

No. We're both getting off track here.

There's nothing wrong with speaking out against muslim persecution of Christians. And the preacher on the poster had a right to burn the koran.

What I'm having a problem with, is Yawn using the poster as an example of islamic hate, when the poster was not a random act, it was a response to the burning of the koran by the preacher.

What the preacher did, (by setting fire to the koran), was not protesting specific acts of brutality by radical islamists, it was torching the entire religion. It was akin to Jewish people burning the New Testament, because they don't accept Jesus as the Savior. Christians would be understandably outraged.

I'm just being the devil's advocate here, and looking at the bigger picture.

Yawn took the poster, (out of context), and presented it as an example of islamic hate; when in fact, the poster was a reaction to the koran burning.

That's the only point I was trying to make.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2013, 05:44:08 AM
Quote from: kramarat on March 04, 2013, 05:17:33 AM
No. We're both getting off track here.

There's nothing wrong with speaking out against muslim persecution of Christians. And the preacher on the poster had a right to burn the koran.

What I'm having a problem with, is Yawn using the poster as an example of islamic hate, when the poster was not a random act, it was a response to the burning of the koran by the preacher.

What the preacher did, (by setting fire to the koran), was not protesting specific acts of brutality by radical islamists, it was torching the entire religion. It was akin to Jewish people burning the New Testament, because they don't accept Jesus as the Savior. Christians would be understandably outraged.

I'm just being the devil's advocate here, and looking at the bigger picture.

Yawn took the poster, (out of context), and presented it as an example of islamic hate; when in fact, the poster was a reaction to the koran burning.

That's the only point I was trying to make.
Your point would be valid if Christians were printing wanted "Dead or Alive" posters and distributing them.
But the Fatwa has been around since the inception of the pedophile prophet, and is being practiced at an increasing rate today.
Remember Vangoh and how he was murdered, which happened before this incident.
Devils advocate or not, there is no justifying a Religion or it's followers where murder in it's name goes unchallenged.
They all will be held accountable.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 04, 2013, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 04, 2013, 05:44:08 AM
Your point would be valid if Christians were printing wanted "Dead or Alive" posters and distributing them.
But the Fatwa has been around since the inception of the pedophile prophet, and is being practiced at an increasing rate today.
Remember Vangoh and how he was murdered, which happened before this incident.
Devils advocate or not, there is no justifying a Religion or it's followers where murder in it's name goes unchallenged.
They all will be held accountable.

Agreed. Rather than burning korans, I think a better use of time, would be to go after the US judges that are allowing muslims that beat and rape their wives, to go free. I don't think that religious freedom, (under the constitution), allows for the infringment on another person's constitutional freedom.
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: Yawn on March 04, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
You don't have the right to dictate how anyone else exercises THEIR freedom of religion or free speech rights. I'm sure Terry Jones doesn't care what you think would be a better use of HIS time.

Muslims need to understand that this is AMERICA.  They burn our Bibles, and our flags and MURDER us in the name of their evil prophet.  If someone shows his contempt for that violent political/religious system, they have my blessing. I also don't care if they burn our Bibles or our flag. It tells me just how much they respect our values (they don't).
Title: Re: Islam IS a PEACEFUL Religion
Post by: kramarat on March 05, 2013, 02:19:49 AM
Quote from: Yawn on March 04, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
You don't have the right to dictate how anyone else exercises THEIR freedom of religion or free speech rights. I'm sure Terry Jones doesn't care what you think would be a better use of HIS time.

Muslims need to understand that this is AMERICA.  They burn our Bibles, and our flags and MURDER us in the name of their evil prophet.  If someone shows his contempt for that violent political/religious system, they have my blessing. I also don't care if they burn our Bibles or our flag. It tells me just how much they respect our values (they don't).

A lot of them don't respect our values; agreed.

I'm not trying to dictate anything. I happen to think that burning korans is stupid and inflammatory. This hero of yours hates the muslims for burning bibles, then turns around and does the same thing. If you don't want any comment or opinion on your threads, stop posting them.