Okay, I admit that I am not the sharpest crayon in the box however, can anyone help me to understand? Since we are bombarded 24/7 with ads claiming that we MUST wear a mask though it's only a "mandate" and some Police forces are fining and even arresting people who do not comply. Why couldn't a Governor issue a "mandate" which states that eye color, hair color, skin color, ethnicity or political party is "mandated" to be fined or arrested? Where in the Constitution does it say that everyone MUST wear a mask? If a "mandate" can eliminate or supercede Constitutional rights, why couldn't a Governor "mandate" that everyone "MUST" turn in their firearms and ammunition?
Whitmer didn't get away with it.
That really doesn't address the issue. While it's true that SOME people cannot get away with anything, others seem to get away with everything. I would point you to General Flynn, Carter Paige, Brent Kavenaugh and Donald J. Trump as examples but, there are many others. My point being that Constitutionality doesn't seem to matter if you are wealthy, well connected or of a certain political persuasion (look at HRC)!
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
That really doesn't address the issue. While it's true that SOME people cannot get away with anything, others seem to get away with everything. I would point you to General Flynn, Carter Paige, Brent Kavenaugh and Donald J. Trump as examples but, there are many others. My point being that Constitutionality doesn't seem to matter if you are wealthy, well connected or of a certain political persuasion (look at HRC)!
They didn't get away with it either.
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
That really doesn't address the issue. While it's true that SOME people cannot get away with anything, others seem to get away with everything. I would point you to General Flynn, Carter Paige, Brent Kavenaugh and Donald J. Trump as examples but, there are many others. My point being that Constitutionality doesn't seem to matter if you are wealthy, well connected or of a certain political persuasion (look at HRC)!
Who has got away with what?
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
That really doesn't address the issue. While it's true that SOME people cannot get away with anything, others seem to get away with everything. I would point you to General Flynn, Carter Paige, Brent Kavenaugh and Donald J. Trump as examples but, there are many others. My point being that Constitutionality doesn't seem to matter if you are wealthy, well connected or of a certain political persuasion (look at HRC)!
Actually it does address the issue, and to this post, they haven't gotten away with anything. It's far from over.
But the best way to put an end to the Marxists plot to destroy your Liberties, is to say Fuck You, I ain't wearing a chin diaper!
I haven't worn one yet, fuck them!
If everyone quit being sheep and refused this shit, they wouldn't have the power they think they have.
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
Okay, I admit that I am not the sharpest crayon in the box however, can anyone help me to understand? Since we are bombarded 24/7 with ads claiming that we MUST wear a mask though it's only a "mandate" and some Police forces are fining and even arresting people who do not comply. Why couldn't a Governor issue a "mandate" which states that eye color, hair color, skin color, ethnicity or political party is "mandated" to be fined or arrested? Where in the Constitution does it say that everyone MUST wear a mask? If a "mandate" can eliminate or supercede Constitutional rights, why couldn't a Governor "mandate" that everyone "MUST" turn in their firearms and ammunition?
First off, I am not a lawyer so please take what I say with a grain of salt. Governors and mayors can issue mandates in the case of an emergency, in this case a health emergency. The people can override it by a. prove that mandate will not do the protection, in this case that the masks do not work, or b. prove it is unconstitutional. Both ways will include taking the case to court. Off hand I can think of one emergency order that comes up here ever so often, when a huge city such as Houston was encouraged to evacuate due to a hurricane, all highways leading into and out of Houston were "declared" to be one way only. Hard to say here who is in charge of enforcing the mask wearing, the closest place to buy gas and diesel is a small town about ten miles away, and nobody wears a mask there. Most of the private businesses in even some of the larger towns don't wear or care if you do either.
Good question though. On the firearm question, it has been done before. In New Orleans after hurricane Katrina, mayor Nagin issue an emergency order to the police to confiscate legally owned guns from its citizens, to go door to door and get them. The citizen had two choices, turn them in or shoot it out. I never did hear if they got their guns back. The following article is a pretty good read where a couple of mayors have passed mandates that ban the sale of guns and alcohol.
By the way, welcome to the forum.
First off, there has been ZERO, NADA, NONE as far as prosecutions go so, YES they have "gotten away with it". Secondly, the liberal Democrats always say that it was a "mistake" AFTER the tyranny. It's funny how no one ever questions the actions BEFORE rights are stepped on and the Constitution is ignored. Last but not least, yes it can be contested in a court of law IF one has unlimited funds and is able to fight for YEARS. It would seem that the only ones who benefit are the Democrats and the lawyers. If the average person smashed evidence as HRC did, used a personal server which compromised National security as HRC did, lied to a FISA court as Comey and his minions did, lied to a Congressional committee as Dr. Ford did, wiped devices as Mueller did, framed people as the DNC did or violated rights as the DOJ and the Democrats did repeatedly, one would face prosecution IMMEDIATELY.
And of course let us not forget the FOUR brave Americans who were killed in the Benghazi attack on HRC's watch with President Barack Obama's blessing. Funny, there were no protests, no riots and no one who made anything out of THAT... :glare:
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 06:41:23 AM
First off, there has been ZERO, NADA, NONE as far as prosecutions go so, YES they have "gotten away with it". Secondly, the liberal Democrats always say that it was a "mistake" AFTER the tyranny. It's funny how no one ever questions the actions BEFORE rights are stepped on and the Constitution is ignored. Last but not least, yes it can be contested in a court of law IF one has unlimited funds and is able to fight for YEARS. It would seem that the only ones who benefit are the Democrats and the lawyers. If the average person smashed evidence as HRC did, used a personal server which compromised National security as HRC did, lied to a FISA court as Comey and his minions did, lied to a Congressional committee as Dr. Ford did, wiped devices as Mueller did, framed people as the DNC did or violated rights as the DOJ and the Democrats did repeatedly, one would face prosecution IMMEDIATELY.
When you want to kill a snake you have to chop off the head. Cutting off pieces of the tail does no good. Once you cut off the head the whole snake dies. To prosecute an ex-president it takes absolute positive solid evidence. Things are happening so be patient. It's far from over.
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
Okay, I admit that I am not the sharpest crayon in the box however, can anyone help me to understand? Since we are bombarded 24/7 with ads claiming that we MUST wear a mask though it's only a "mandate" and some Police forces are fining and even arresting people who do not comply. Why couldn't a Governor issue a "mandate" which states that eye color, hair color, skin color, ethnicity or political party is "mandated" to be fined or arrested? Where in the Constitution does it say that everyone MUST wear a mask? If a "mandate" can eliminate or supercede Constitutional rights, why couldn't a Governor "mandate" that everyone "MUST" turn in their firearms and ammunition?
Patience. First there has to an action brought before a court, then appeals, and then finally the US Supreme Court. As in Michigan the bitch there was slapped down. Therein comes problem number two; power. These little men and women governors have never had this much power in their miserable life's. They will not give it up without a fight. As in the case in Michigan the bitch has now found a way around the courts order, temporarily.
As Solar points out, a nation of sheep are very controllable. All this nonsense would end in a 24 hour news cycle if everyone refused. Go to church. Live your life. And don't wear a mask unless it is your choice. The original colonies feared the King and it's power. Almost 250 years later Americans fear their governments. The first revolution for independence took many years. We are in this bullshit now for 7 months. Society has become an "I want it now" culture.
Can a virus suspend the Constitution? Short answer is no it can't. Trouble is the marxist, democraps, RINO's, deep state and the DC power elite have no interest in this ending. Their income stream has not been interrupted and the DC cocktail parties continue. And besides, they need to work on their re-election, your freedoms can wait.
No quick fix here. My thought is why couldn't someone file a complaint using the 14th amendment? Equal protection. Why can riots be allowed but weddings aren't? As an example. Using the 14th amendment a person or class might get representation at the governments expenses, say the DOJ. Compare it to the EEOC complaints and filings. I'm not an lawyer, I'm just throwing a thought out there.
I don't wear the mask. I make two exceptions; 1, doctors office and 2, I have to fly to Texas for my daughters wedding and I'll have to wear the damn thing to get on the plane. I have been asked to leave 3 private businesses so far. I've had one person point to my face like "where's your mask?". That's it in 7 months. If others want to wear the mask and social distance that's up to them, I don't. It catches me off guard when people step around me in a store. Then I remember, social distance. Really weird.
To answer your concern, I don't think the mandates are constitutional in the long run. A 7 month and counting state of emergency is a joke. We know what the virus is now. Science tells us masks don't work. Actual covid deaths are less than 1%. More kids will die from a host of other causes than covid but the schools remain closed.
This is a power play by marxist and one world order commies and the democraps. They know that the Supreme Court can not hear this case until after the election, at which point the marxist are hoping they will have gained power and it will be moot. The DOJ under the control of the marxist will not proceed with anything that would lessen their power. AG Bill Barr will be gone come Jan. 21st if the marxist seize power.
This is my humble opinion, and it's worth every penny you paid for it.
I've no doubt this is one of those "Nothing Is Happening" individuals that refuses to get out of the bubble they're living in on the internet.
The truth will set you free, just seek it out and quit listening to losers parroting other morons that nothing is happening. It Is Happening!!!
Quote from: Solar on October 10, 2020, 08:13:24 AM
I've no doubt this is one of those "Nothing Is Happening" individuals that refuses to get out of the bubble they're living in on the internet.
The truth will set you free, just seek it out and quit listening to losers parroting other morons that nothing is happening. It Is Happening!!!
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING! If it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.
The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING! If it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.
The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.
Just because you live in a bubble, only visit sites that share your delusions, does not make it a reality!
I assure you, everything is unfolding at the perfect pace, and the DNC is dead.
Turn off FOX, try OANN for a change, you aren't getting the truth!
Quote from: Solar on October 10, 2020, 09:04:46 AM
Just because you live in a bubble, only visit sites that share your delusions, does not make it a reality!
I assure you, everything is unfolding at the perfect pace, and the DNC is dead.
Turn off FOX, try OANN for a change, you aren't getting the truth!
Turn off CNN and MSNBC: your definitely not getting the truth!
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on October 10, 2020, 09:13:23 AM
Turn off CNN and MSNBC: your definitely not getting the truth!
You hit the wrong quote... :wink:
Quote from: Solar on October 10, 2020, 09:04:46 AM
Just because you live in a bubble, only visit sites that share your delusions, does not make it a reality!
I assure you, everything is unfolding at the perfect pace, and the DNC is dead.
Turn off FOX, try OANN for a change, you aren't getting the truth!
Okay, let's suppose for a moment that I "live in a bubble" and I'm "not getting the truth". Has Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, James Comey, Rob Rosenstein, HRC, Loretta Lynch, Barack Obama, China Biden or ANYONE at the DNC been indicted or arrested? Since you seem so well informed and supposedly have the "truth", this should be an easy answer for you Solar!
Since you seem to have the "truth" and I am so misinformed, how about you tell us all of the indictments that have been issued and all the names of the Democrats who have been arrested or imprisoned...
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
That really doesn't address the issue. While it's true that SOME people cannot get away with anything, others seem to get away with everything. I would point you to General Flynn, Carter Paige, Brent Kavenaugh and Donald J. Trump as examples but, there are many others. My point being that Constitutionality doesn't seem to matter if you are wealthy, well connected or of a certain political persuasion (look at HRC)!
But why isnt there any evidence they did anything wrong tho?
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 06:46:44 AM
And of course let us not forget the FOUR brave Americans who were killed in the Benghazi attack on HRC's watch with President Barack Obama's blessing. Funny, there were no protests, no riots and no one who made anything out of THAT... :glare:
So you are just pointing out how biased the media is. Just because they werent talking about it doenst mean we all werent on places like this site, ( tho admittedly I wasnt here yet.)
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING! If it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.
The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.
RV, if you don't drink, maybe you should start. Xanax might also be helpful.
You might recall that when President Trump was elected the GOP held the house and senate. It was our chance to get rid of Obummercare. One miserable little man screwed us. You are not the only one frustrated with what's been going on. Hearings and the famous; "we're going to get to the bottom of this and hold those responsible". Yeah, sure.
A coup was attempted on President Trump. Can you think of anything more anit-American than that? And what has happened? Hearings, and hearings. And of course the famous; "we're going to get to the bottom of this and hold those accountable". Rule of law, and so on. Hahrumph. "Senator Graham, come on, we're gonna be late for the cocktail party in Georgetown if we don't get going. Adam Schiff is hosting and all the swank people will be there." "You're right, fetch a nice Cuban cigar from the humidor and get my smoking jacket, I'll be ready in a moment". "Yes sir". "We don't want to be late, I hear Cindy McCain might be there tonight". "I heard the same thing sir, we could use a little campaign cash, if you know what I mean". "Absolutely". "Would you like me to pick a nice mask for you?". "No, fuck that, only the small people wear those things". "Yes sir".
Patience RV, our best bet is to get President Trump re-elected. Trump doesn't play their stupid games. In fact he said he's disappointed in AG Barr and the DOJ for dragging their feet and plans to tell him so to his face. He's one man fighting for us against the marxist, democraps, RINO's and the deep state. Keep the faith, and vote.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING! If it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.
The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.
All the action will take place AFTER the election, which is soon. The election is in the bag so dont worry so much, just chill.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
Okay, let's suppose for a moment that I "live in a bubble" and I'm "not getting the truth". Has Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, James Comey, Rob Rosenstein, HRC, Loretta Lynch, Barack Obama, China Biden or ANYONE at the DNC been indicted or arrested? Since you seem so well informed and supposedly have the "truth", this should be an easy answer for you Solar!
Since you seem to have the "truth" and I am so misinformed, how about you tell us all of the indictments that have been issued and all the names of the Democrats who have been arrested or imprisoned...
Why are indictments the only benchmark for progress? Those will happen towards the end, this is just the beginning.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
Okay, let's suppose for a moment that I "live in a bubble" and I'm "not getting the truth". Has Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, James Comey, Rob Rosenstein, HRC, Loretta Lynch, Barack Obama, China Biden or ANYONE at the DNC been indicted or arrested? Since you seem so well informed and supposedly have the "truth", this should be an easy answer for you Solar!
Since you seem to have the "truth" and I am so misinformed, how about you tell us all of the indictments that have been issued and all the names of the Democrats who have been arrested or imprisoned...
I know this hard for the average person to grasp, but this is reality, not a TV drama. Investigations take years, and in this case, we're dealing with a communist incursion into our very govt, they even plotted a coup against a duly elected President.
This is not a few dozen people, this is thousands of enablers/nations trying to destroy the US, and it pretty much started with Bill Clinton.
That's how far back these investigations are going, including the supposed vetting process of Obozo and his Middle East ties, Iran John McStain etc.
Then you have the smaller players who needed to flip on their handlers, who in turn needed to flip on Dim insiders and the trail goes all the way to the top.
Point is, you don't worry about the little guy, you need an unbroken chain leading to the top. Do you think Epstein was premature?
Nope, they were ferreting out the moles and insiders, watching everything they did, who they called, where they stayed etc.
Trump has already cut off their funding, that's why antifa and BLM are rioting, they're all the left has left.
Point is, this is the crime of the century and not one of these criminals are going to walk. If they did, they'd just reactivate the same old chain and we'd have a repeat in in 2024.
You do know, they just now released Hillary's emails, Right? We're finally nearing the end.
This is off topic, but if the Denial of Service attacks did not work, could it explain the several Leftist Newbies that have joined up?
Quote from: Skull on October 10, 2020, 09:38:24 AM
This is off topic, but if the Denial of Service attacks did not work, could it explain the several Leftist Newbies that have joined up?
Yep, one in particular I booted a couple of days ago. He thought he was smart, thought he could disrupt our forum, he was wrong on all counts. :biggrin:
So, in other words, there have been no indictments, no arrests and no prosecutions. I've been hearing that the investigations will take "years" however we don't have "years". There will be a presidential election in a few weeks and there are numbskulls who cannot or will not think for themselves who will vote for a Commie like China Joe and Comrad Harris. If the Democrats are elected, if they get back in power or if they retain the House, all of the lies, graft, cover-ups and clandestine activities will be swept under the rug. The voters need the facts NOW. The voters need the truth NOW. As Nancy Pelosi said with Obummercareless, "you have to pass it BEFORE you can read it." China Joe and Comrad Harris have said the exact same thing about what they will do in regards to packing the Supreme Court.
As a former law enforcement officer and a person who grew up with a Father who was also a law enforcement officer, I KNOW that investigations do not take years unless one is undercover. In this case the criminal activity is in plain sight.
Quote from: T Hunt on October 10, 2020, 09:27:53 AM
All the action will take place AFTER the election, which is soon. The election is in the bag so dont worry so much, just chill.
I really hope you are correct! My fear is that the Democrats will use every means, illegal votes and whatever they can to steal this election. There is no question in my mind that the whole vote by mail scam is aimed at securing illegal votes. I'm not sure I can "chill" until AFTER the presidential election goes in President Trump's favor.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 11:29:23 AM
So, in other words, there have been no indictments, no arrests and no prosecutions. I've been hearing that the investigations will take "years" however we don't have "years". There will be a presidential election in a few weeks and there are numbskulls who cannot or will not think for themselves who will vote for a Commie like China Joe and Comrad Harris. If the Democrats are elected, if they get back in power or if they retain the House, all of the lies, graft, cover-ups and clandestine activities will be swept under the rug. The voters need the facts NOW. The voters need the truth NOW. As Nancy Pelosi said with Obummercareless, "you have to pass it BEFORE you can read it." China Joe and Comrad Harris have said the exact same thing about what they will do in regards to packing the Supreme Court.
As a former law enforcement officer and a person who grew up with a Father who was also a law enforcement officer, I KNOW that investigations do not take years unless one is undercover. In this case the criminal activity is in plain sight.
I too am former law enforcement. And what you see is only an image of what is going on behind the scene, and yes, Trump has been at this his entire first term.
The only way to make this stick is to prove to the public the DNC is corrupt, he needs public opinion demanding people pay, which is why only just now did they release Clinton's emails.
Public opinion is about to shift dramatically.
Keep in mind, we have it all, deleted or otherwise, the NSA has a copy of everything the DNC has done in the last 12 years and more.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on October 10, 2020, 09:26:40 AM
RV, if you don't drink, maybe you should start. Xanax might also be helpful.
You might recall that when President Trump was elected the GOP held the house and senate. It was our chance to get rid of Obummercare. One miserable little man screwed us. You are not the only one frustrated with what's been going on. Hearings and the famous; "we're going to get to the bottom of this and hold those responsible". Yeah, sure.
A coup was attempted on President Trump. Can you think of anything more anit-American than that? And what has happened? Hearings, and hearings. And of course the famous; "we're going to get to the bottom of this and hold those accountable". Rule of law, and so on. Hahrumph. "Senator Graham, come on, we're gonna be late for the cocktail party in Georgetown if we don't get going. Adam Schiff is hosting and all the swank people will be there." "You're right, fetch a nice Cuban cigar from the humidor and get my smoking jacket, I'll be ready in a moment". "Yes sir". "We don't want to be late, I hear Cindy McCain might be there tonight". "I heard the same thing sir, we could use a little campaign cash, if you know what I mean". "Absolutely". "Would you like me to pick a nice mask for you?". "No, fuck that, only the small people wear those things". "Yes sir".
Patience RV, our best bet is to get President Trump re-elected. Trump doesn't play their stupid games. In fact he said he's disappointed in AG Barr and the DOJ for dragging their feet and plans to tell him so to his face. He's one man fighting for us against the marxist, democraps, RINO's and the deep state. Keep the faith, and vote.
Eh, no thank you. There isn't enough Zanax nor alcohol in the entire world to make me shut off my brain long enough to swallow the nonsense that I hear coming from the Commie Democrats. To be honest, my patience is running low. The idiocy of this "pandemic" scam, the "protests", the way the leftists have ruined this country, the way the Democrats trample on Constitutional rights and the blatant discrimination that the Democrats push is wearing my patience thin!
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 11:45:42 AM
Eh, no thank you. There isn't enough Zanax nor alcohol in the entire world to make me shut off my brain long enough to swallow the nonsense that I hear coming from the Commie Democrats. To be honest, my patience is running low. The idiocy of this "pandemic" scam, the "protests", the way the leftists have ruined this country, the way the Democrats trample on Constitutional rights and the blatant discrimination that the Democrats push is wearing my patience thin!
It's all political theater RV. Stick around, we post news you don't see anywhere else. You will be glad you did, it will completely change your perspective on what is actually happening.
Or you could go back through the threads and see for yourself.
RV, let me give you something to hang your hat on. Just imagine had Romney, McCain or the Bitch of Benghazi been elected. Where we would be today? It would have been politics as usual.
We had the good fortune of getting a working man elected, and he's fighting for us and for love of country. Without that and the coup that failed, we would not have discovered any of this deep state stuff. That's a good thing.
Things are moving at a snails pace, nobody wants to work themselves out of a job. A committee for this, a committee for that, and on it goes.
This goes back all the way to the first Bush. Reagan had done a great job, but then Bush Sr. decided that the GOP needed to be a little more progressive. And we lost to Clinton, which brought us the Clintong Crime Family. And in all hindsight I think Clinton was a little more conservative at first. Then we get Jr., and the compassionate conservative bullshit.
And then a mooselimb who wanted to "fundamentally" change America. A mindless throng of progressives agreed and America went to Hell in a hand basket. The result, we get Trump. We are so lucky. After the election the chains will come off and we'll have 4 years of ass kicking. They will be a lot of "help wanted" signs in DC. Those career bastards will soon realize they need to dust off their resumes.
The deep state players are not sleeping well at night, be sure of that. Trump has declassified all the Russia hoax shit. It will take a little time for that info to get out, CNN and MSNBC will not publish the information.
I'll tell ya, as much as I would like to see Barrock Oslama bin Obama and the Bitch of Benghazi hanging from a tree branch, I'll be thrilled to see those bastards Comey, Brennan and Clapper in orange jump suits.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 06:41:23 AM
First off, there has been ZERO, NADA, NONE as far as prosecutions go so, YES they have "gotten away with it".
Who?
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Secondly, the liberal Democrats always say that it was a "mistake" AFTER the tyranny. It's funny how no one ever questions the actions BEFORE rights are stepped on and the Constitution is ignored. Last but not least, yes it can be contested in a court of law IF one has unlimited funds and is able to fight for YEARS. It would seem that the only ones who benefit are the Democrats and the lawyers. If the average person smashed evidence as HRC did, used a personal server which compromised National security as HRC did, lied to a FISA court as Comey and his minions did, lied to a Congressional committee as Dr. Ford did, wiped devices as Mueller did, framed people as the DNC did or violated rights as the DOJ and the Democrats did repeatedly, one would face prosecution IMMEDIATELY.
You sound very emotional.
Quote from: Killer Clouds on October 10, 2020, 06:49:23 AM
When you want to kill a snake you have to chop off the head. Cutting off pieces of the tail does no good. Once you cut off the head the whole snake dies. To prosecute an ex-president it takes absolute positive solid evidence. Things are happening so be patient. It's far from over.
I completely agree and well said!
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
I don't live in liberal land, don't live in a "bubble" and don't have hallucinations either. I don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol and have been married to the same woman for 42 years. I am commenting for the simple fact that NOTHING IS HAPPENING!
You keep trying to make this point, but you're a little light on facts.
QuoteIf it were anyone else an indictment would have been handed down and an arrest warrant issued IMMEDIATELY! There are two justice systems in this country and the "silent majority" had better wake up and soon! It may already be too late to overturn the greed, graft, lies, lawlessness and blatant unConstitutionality that seems to be sweeping the nation. People ARE sheep and the liberal media blasts lies and misinformation constantly.
The reason that we are in this predicament is because it is popular to claim that "everything is a ok" while the cities burn and lawlessness abounds. If someone tries to say something against the normal rhetoric, they are discredited and labeled as a kook or some other name. I've been hearing for literally three years that "things are happening" only nothing is. In the mean time the lawlessness, the lies and the misinformation continues.
By the media. Who cares about the media? I wouldn't waste so much energy worrying about what Don Lemon thinks about you.
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
Okay, let's suppose for a moment that I "live in a bubble" and I'm "not getting the truth". Has Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, James Comey, Rob Rosenstein, HRC, Loretta Lynch, Barack Obama, China Biden or ANYONE at the DNC been indicted or arrested? Since you seem so well informed and supposedly have the "truth", this should be an easy answer for you Solar!
I don't see any reason for Rosenstein to be indicted, and for now, I don't see any reason for Comey to be indicted.
I can't get on board your retarded thinking that says "they haven't been indicted, therefore, they won't be".
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Since you seem to have the "truth" and I am so misinformed, how about you tell us all of the indictments that have been issued and all the names of the Democrats who have been arrested or imprisoned...
For what scandal? List the evidence you have and for whom.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on October 10, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
RV, let me give you something to hang your hat on. Just imagine had Romney, McCain or the Bitch of Benghazi been elected. Where we would be today? It would have been politics as usual.
We had the good fortune of getting a working man elected, and he's fighting for us and for love of country. Without that and the coup that failed, we would not have discovered any of this deep state stuff. That's a good thing.
Things are moving at a snails pace, nobody wants to work themselves out of a job. A committee for this, a committee for that, and on it goes.
This goes back all the way to the first Bush. Reagan had done a great job, but then Bush Sr. decided that the GOP needed to be a little more progressive. And we lost to Clinton, which brought us the Clintong Crime Family. And in all hindsight I think Clinton was a little more conservative at first. Then we get Jr., and the compassionate conservative bullshit.
And then a mooselimb who wanted to "fundamentally" change America. A mindless throng of progressives agreed and America went to Hell in a hand basket. The result, we get Trump. We are so lucky. After the election the chains will come off and we'll have 4 years of ass kicking. They will be a lot of "help wanted" signs in DC. Those career bastards will soon realize they need to dust off their resumes.
The deep state players are not sleeping well at night, be sure of that. Trump has declassified all the Russia hoax shit. It will take a little time for that info to get out, CNN and MSNBC will not publish the information.
I'll tell ya, as much as I would like to see Barrock Oslama bin Obama and the Bitch of Benghazi hanging from a tree branch, I'll be thrilled to see those bastards Comey, Brennan and Clapper in orange jump suits.
I would agree with you that if any of the liberal Democrats had won the election, all of this would have been swept under the rug, classified, covered-up or buried so deep in red tape that it would never see the light of day. This is obviously what the Democrats were counting on. Still though, there has been plenty of facts unearthed that it seems quite obviously that the fix was in. I also agree with you that it'll be a thrill to see Comey, Clapper and Brennan in orange jump suits but, that is just a few of the criminals that need to be held accountable.
What happened with Justice Kavenaugh, General Flynn and the Trump campaign should NEVER happen but, it did. What's more, it will happen again unless something is done to hold these morons accountable. There were over 600 requests for increased security that were either ignored or denied by the Oslama administration. The result was that FOUR Americans INCLUDING an American Ambassador were killed. The victims and their families deserve justice!
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 05:35:51 PM
I would agree with you that if any of the liberal Democrats had won the election, all of this would have been swept under the rug, classified, covered-up or buried so deep in red tape that it would never see the light of day. This is obviously what the Democrats were counting on. Still though, there has been plenty of facts unearthed that it seems quite obviously that the fix was in. I also agree with you that it'll be a thrill to see Comey, Clapper and Brennan in orange jump suits but, that is just a few of the criminals that need to be held accountable.
List their crimes per criminal code.
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What happened with Justice Kavenaugh, General Flynn and the Trump campaign should NEVER happen but, it did. What's more, it will happen again unless something is done to hold these morons accountable. There were over 600 requests for increased security that were either ignored or denied by the Oslama administration. The result was that FOUR Americans INCLUDING an American Ambassador were killed. The victims and their families deserve justice!
Why do you assume there won't be justice on those fronts?
Quote from: RV on October 10, 2020, 11:45:42 AM
Eh, no thank you. There isn't enough Zanax nor alcohol in the entire world to make me shut off my brain long enough to swallow the nonsense that I hear coming from the Commie Democrats. To be honest, my patience is running low. The idiocy of this "pandemic" scam, the "protests", the way the leftists have ruined this country, the way the Democrats trample on Constitutional rights and the blatant discrimination that the Democrats push is wearing my patience thin!
Everyone's patience is wearing thin. You say you are law enforcement? Even if you were only a city cop you should know how long a complicated local investigation takes, right? Well what if the investigation expands a little bit and it becomes Statewide? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think that it's going to take a little longer? I think so. So once you start investigating across the state you realize that hey this thing is Nationwide so now it's going to really take some time right? The investigation that the doj is looking at includes not just the United States but it goes to Italy, it goes to Australia, it goes to the UK, that goes to Ukraine, it goes to Russia. Hell I get worn out just listing the places that you have to look for evidence and not everyone is going to be cooperative.
Everyone's pissed off that we probably won't see anything before the election but we might. What I have seen is a lot of corruption being exposed wheather it be Michael Flynn, Carter page, Comey Brennan and all the rest we got the goods on them. President Trump says they've been caught, and the corruption goes all the way to the top all the way to Obama.
The country is waking up and in a fair and honest election Trump wins by a landslide, but we know it's not going to be fair we know it will be a battle. If Trump loses there will be violence, if Trump wins there will be more violence. Try to keep in mind that this is the biggest political crime that has ever taken place in the United States of America. This is not just a local Crime Boss we are after and it isn't just a national conspiracy, the Deep state is in every nook and cranny in the world and the investigation will be worldwide. So try to relax, and for God's sake take something to un pucker your butthole. If you want to do something helpful try what most of American Patriots are doing and pray.
Also keep in mind that about half of this investigation was just looking at what had been done. Once they realized that actual crimes had been committed it was then that it expanded into a criminal investigation.
Welcome to The Forum.
I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape. My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.
There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.
If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.
Quote from: RV on October 11, 2020, 06:08:37 AM
I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape.
This isn't "most investigations"; it's the BIGGEST FUCKING STING IN WORLD HISTORY.
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My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.
Or maybe, just.... fucking maybe, it involves intelligence agencies from all over the world, including ours, our deep state with operatives in a government, banking systems all over the world, locating people that are impossible to find, and local politicians that have facilitated the deep state for over 60 years. These are the people who killed Kennedy and took out the towers, but I'm sorry it's not happening fast enough for your liking.
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There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.
Where is the "foot dragging"? Name it.
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If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.
Comparing the largest takedown in world history to pulling over a drug dealer really show show clueless you are and have no clue about anything that's going on.
Quote from: RV on October 11, 2020, 06:08:37 AM
I am a FORMER law enforcement officer and my Father was a FORMER law enforcement officer (he retired and passed away). Yes, investigations take time. Most investigations do NOT take years unless the Government is hiding something and embroiled in red tape. My point is that this "investigation" has taken YEARS because money is changing hands, corruption is obvious and politics is apparently more important than justice. They are of course using the Presidential election as an excuse to not let the public know how corrupt the government and the media are.
There is a great deal of foot dragging and the Democrats are hoping that China Joe and Comrad Harris win so all can be swept under the rug. There are "woke" gullible folks out there who cannot think for themselves who support China Joe and Comrad Harris.
If an officer stops a car and notices millions of dollars of illegal drugs in the back seat in plain sight, the officer doesn't wait for an "investigation", he promptly arrests the suspect. In this case, there are documents in plain sight which all prove illegal activity.
I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week
Quote from: Dirtbomb on October 11, 2020, 07:43:39 PM
I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week
Perfectly said! I completely agree.
Quote from: Dirtbomb on October 11, 2020, 07:43:39 PM
I think what you're failing to understand is these aren't your typical criminal investigations. Most investigations for crime are being conducted against Ordinary People most with criminal backgrounds. The people that are being investigated by Barr and Durham are public government officials, supposedly upstanding citizens with stellar reputations. Many worked in the highest ranks of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. You can't just start taking these people down while there is an ongoing investigation. These people know how to cover their tracks it's what they do. They have passed laws to protect themselves when they say we did this by the book They're not lying in most cases you have to remember they wrote the book. You need to have your ducks in a row and all your I's dotted and T's crossed before you make an arrest otherwise they will walk. You have to remember also that in the beginning of this investigation they were just looking at people involved in the Russia probe the Mueller investigation. When they realized that it led Back to Before the election they basically had to start from the beginning again that's how they found out about Carter page and general Flynn. If you think you could do a better job why don't you go to Washington and volunteeri your services and clear this up by the end of the week
I looked at my comments, I NEVER stated that I could do a "better job" nor "clear this up in a week". It would seem that certain people are eager to add words, claim that words were said which weren't or twist what was said to justify the status quo. This is exactly what happened to General Flynn, Roger Stone, Bill Barr, Carter Paige, Paul Manafort, Brent Kavenaugh and the Trump campaign as well...
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
I looked at my comments, I NEVER stated that I could do a "better job" nor "clear this up in a week". It would seem that certain people are eager to add words, claim that words were said which weren't or twist what was said to justify the status quo. This is exactly what happened to General Flynn, Roger Stone, Bill Barr, Carter Paige, Paul Manafort, Brent Kavenaugh and the Trump campaign as well...
The victim card? I wouldn't go there!
Funny, no where in my comment was the word "victim" nor the word "card"...
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 06:18:18 AM
Funny, no where in my comment was the word "victim" nor the word "card"...
Placing ones self in the same category as real victims of leftist persecution, is playing the victim card.
You were simply called out for your ignorance and took it personal. Believe me, this is a ruthless board and you have been treated extremely well comparatively.
Just relax, take the time to read, we have soooo much to offer.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 06:18:18 AM
Funny, no where in my comment was the word "victim" nor the word "card"...
You seem to be under the mistaken assumption for you to say something out loud in order for it to be true. Not so. You are forgetting that your words always imply more than you are saying. You also forget that actions speak louder than words. Words are neither the beginning or the end of the communication process.
Quote from: T Hunt on October 12, 2020, 07:21:15 AM
You seem to be under the mistaken assumption for you to say something out loud in order for it to be true. Not so. You are forgetting that your words always imply more than you are saying. You also forget that actions speak louder than words. Words are neither the beginning or the end of the communication process.
So I guess according to you, anyone can be accused of anything. It doesn't matter what one says, the mind readers will interject whatever they please? Sounds very liberal, quite biased and quite communistic.
Quote from: Solar on October 12, 2020, 06:25:39 AM
Placing ones self in the same category as real victims of leftist persecution, is playing the victim card.
You were simply called out for your ignorance and took it personal. Believe me, this is a ruthless board and you have been treated extremely well comparatively.
Just relax, take the time to read, we have soooo much to offer.
So, I guess according to you, it doesn't matter what someone says, the mind readers will interject whatever they please that supports their accusation(s). I'm not a "victim", have NEVER been a "victim" and have never referred to myself as such. The "REAL" victims are the people I listed, regardless of how you and your liberal friends try to portray it. I was "treated well"? Hmmm, so I guess that means that the verbal attacks could have been physical but, instead were not? I believe that is the same upsidedown "logic" that Antifa, BLM and the KKK uses.
"Relax"? So, you assume that I'm not? "Take the time to read"? So, again, you are making assumptions? My Daddy always told me never to assume...
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 07:41:17 AM
So I guess according to you, anyone can be accused of anything. It doesn't matter what one says, the mind readers will interject whatever they please? Sounds very liberal, quite biased and quite communistic.
RV, I'm curious where you hung out before hitting this forum? I ask only because you seem to have a negative view of our current situation, one normally found on Faceplant or leftist media.
This is not an accusation, an observation, merely an inquiry as to how you came by your views.
Believe me, very few on this forum see any doom and gloom, we see an impending bloody slaughter of the left across the globe.
Quote from: Solar on October 12, 2020, 08:01:33 AM
RV, I'm curious where you hung out before hitting this forum? I ask only because you seem to have a negative view of our current situation, one normally found on Faceplant or leftist media.
This is not an accusation, an observation, merely an inquiry as to how you came by your views.
Believe me, very few on this forum see any doom and gloom, we see an impending bloody slaughter of the left across the globe.
I've never "hung out" on the Internet. Do NOT have a "faceplant" account, am not a "leftist" nor have I EVER been a Democrat, liberal nor Communist. I also do not have a "Twitter" account. I have NEVER "hung out" on "leftist media sites" and never would.
It's bad enough that Democrats have invaded virtually every ad, commercial, educational and/or recreational avenue. I don't see "doom and gloom" as I believe that God is in charge. I DO think that evil has been allowed to flourish and misinformation, lies, twisting of words and blatant interjections have take place much like what I see here.
Call the ball red, they will claim that you said or meant yellow. Claim that the ball was green, they will claim that you said or meant orange and so on. This is the reason that the Democrats went on a smear campaign against Hydroxycloroquine when the President said that it may offer some hope.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 08:17:29 AM
I've never "hung out" on the Internet. Do NOT have a "faceplant" account, am not a "leftist" nor have I EVER been a Democrat, liberal nor Communist. I also do not have a "Twitter" account. I have NEVER "hung out" on "leftist media sites" and never would.
Then turn off the TV!
QuoteIt's bad enough that Democrats have invaded virtually every ad, commercial, educational and/or recreational avenue. I don't see "doom and gloom" as I believe that God is in charge. I DO think that evil has been allowed to flourish and misinformation, lies, twisting of words and blatant interjections have take place much like what I see here.
No one has twisted your words, reread what you posted.
QuoteCall the ball red, they will claim that you said or meant yellow. Claim that the ball was green, they will claim that you said or meant orange and so on. This is the reason that the Democrats went on a smear campaign against Hydroxycloroquine when the President said that it may offer some hope.
You watch FUX, don't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on October 12, 2020, 08:24:54 AM
Then turn off the TV!
No one has twisted your words, reread what you posted.
You watch FUX, don't you? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hmmm, so, there is no truth on television? Only YOU know the truth? Only YOU have the facts? Why aren't you doing something then? Why there was no reason for any of this, all they had to do was install you and everything would have been right? You must think of yourself as omnipotent, huh?
It's NOT I who needs to read my words again, it is YOU. Nowhere in my comment did I say that "My words were twisted", that was YOU interjecting what you WANTED to see there.
As far as what I watch on television, if I watch television or when I watch television, that is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! You lefties may think that you have intimidated those who are weak or frighten those who will run from your bullying but, I am not one of them! I will NOT be intimidated, will NOT run in fear and will stand up for what I believe in regardless of what you libs do, accuse, twist, lie, misinform or otherwise coerce by clandestine means.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Hmmm, so, there is no truth on television? Only YOU know the truth? Only YOU have the facts? Why aren't you doing something then? Why there was no reason for any of this, all they had to do was install you and everything would have been right? You must think of yourself as omnipotent, huh?
Yes, like most on this forum, we see the truth, we speak the truth, we write articles on the truth, we are extremely well informed.
Like I said, if you're watching TV news, you're being fed opinion shaped information.
QuoteIt's NOT I who needs to read my words again, it is YOU. Nowhere in my comment did I say that "My words were twisted", that was YOU interjecting what you WANTED to see there.
Really?
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
I looked at my comments, I NEVER stated that I could do a "better job" nor "clear this up in a week". It would seem that certain people are eager to add words, claim that words were said which weren't or twist what was said to justify the status quo. This is exactly what happened to General Flynn, Roger Stone, Bill Barr, Carter Paige, Paul Manafort, Brent Kavenaugh and the Trump campaign as well...
QuoteAs far as what I watch on television, if I watch television or when I watch television, that is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! You lefties may think that you have intimidated those who are weak or frighten those who will run from your bullying but, I am not one of them! I will NOT be intimidated, will NOT run in fear and will stand up for what I believe in regardless of what you libs do, accuse, twist, lie, misinform or otherwise coerce by clandestine means.
:lol:
I'll just let that statement stand without comment. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Solar on October 12, 2020, 09:21:26 AM
Yes, like most on this forum, we see the truth, we speak the truth, we write articles on the truth, we are extremely well informed.
Like I said, if you're watching TV news, you're being fed opinion shaped information.
Really?
:lol:
I'll just let that statement stand without comment. :rolleyes:
And like I said, liberals ALWAYS see themselves as smarter, more educated, kinder and "better" than everyone else. It seems that liberals think that they have the "only truth" and everyone else is misinformed. Consequently, no source is EVER correct information as far as they are concerned. The problem is that virtually every source has been hijacked by the liberals so you cannot believe any one source but, have to look at many sources to get a true representation of the truth.
I gave you a chance to enlighten everyone with your supposed knowledge but, you offered nothing. Needless to say, I wasn't impressed. So IF I have a TV and IF I watch it and IF I watch "news" and WHEN I watch it remains none of your business. Next I suppose you'll want to know the brand and model of toilet in my home. Liberals love to stick their nose in other people's business...
RV you make stupid statements the get all butt hurt when called out for your idiotic remarks. Yes there are a very few liberal trolls on this site but they don't last long. If you're going to make factual statements then you better be able to back them up with provable facts. I am fairly new to this site and I have argued my points. Sometimes I win. Sometimes I lose and sometimes we agree to disagree BUT I won't call the strongest of the conservatives here libs. Especially when I know better. If you want to be an asshole troll like the sheeple libs on here then maybe this is not the site for you either.
Quote from: Killer Clouds on October 12, 2020, 11:15:10 AM
RV you make stupid statements the get all butt hurt when called out for your idiotic remarks. Yes there are a very few liberal trolls on this site but they don't last long. If you're going to make factual statements then you better be able to back them up with provable facts. I am fairly new to this site and I have argued my points. Sometimes I win. Sometimes I lose and sometimes we agree to disagree BUT I won't call the strongest of the conservatives here libs. Especially when I know better. If you want to be an asshole troll like the sheeple libs on here then maybe this is not the site for you either.
Right and YOUR statements are so much more intelligent than mine. Why I can't understand how I can even figure out how to turn on a PC. Why, it is a miracle that I can even figure out how to answer a post as I am so "stupid". Why my "idiotic" comments are such that I am surprised that I am even allowed out on the street! Why I guess my "butt hurt" is such that I can't believe that I can even sit down. I guess profanity and name calling is "normal" so I am probably not "normal" since I don't do either one. That seems to be a tactic of the left to call everyone they disagree with a "troll", a "sheep" and a "lib" and intimidate them to hopefully leave. Intimidation doesn't work with me. In fact, the more people try to intimidate me, the more I know that I am speaking the truth that the libs cannot bear and the more I want to stick around. Thank you for letting me know that I definitely need to stay on this site!
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 11:11:31 AM
And like I said, liberals ALWAYS see themselves as smarter, more educated, kinder and "better" than everyone else. It seems that liberals think that they have the "only truth" and everyone else is misinformed. Consequently, no source is EVER correct information as far as they are concerned. The problem is that virtually every source has been hijacked by the liberals so you cannot believe any one source but, have to look at many sources to get a true representation of the truth.
Because I call you out, prove you said something you claimed you did not, I'm a lib?Here you rant on about libs, yet seem to think you are somehow more informed? I only asked about your source for news in hopes of getting you to recognize the simple fact that virtually all TV news has an agenda. Even OANN has an agenda, though far more trusted than all other TV sources.
You come to a Conservative forum and your opening post asks accusatory questions, never once considering most of what YOU are seeing is happening in Blue states/cities, definitely not representative of the rest of the country.
We are a Republic, a govt of laws, States have a lot of leeway in what they do, this is not something Trump is responsible for.
QuoteI gave you a chance to enlighten everyone with your supposed knowledge but, you offered nothing. Needless to say, I wasn't impressed.
You are more than welcome to challenge my intellect, but you need to start with a question if you expect an answer.
QuoteSo IF I have a TV and IF I watch it and IF I watch "news" and WHEN I watch it remains none of your business. Next I suppose you'll want to know the brand and model of toilet in my home. Liberals love to stick their nose in other people's business...
OK, drop the emotion, you and I both know what side of the isle plays that game. Like I said, if you want to engage in debate, fire away, but don't get all butt hurt when the outcome exposes just how uninformed you are.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
Right and YOUR statements are so much more intelligent than mine. Why I can't understand how I can even figure out how to turn on a PC. Why, it is a miracle that I can even figure out how to answer a post as I am so "stupid". Why my "idiotic" comments are such that I am surprised that I am even allowed out on the street! Why I guess my "butt hurt" is such that I can't believe that I can even sit down. I guess profanity and name calling is "normal" so I am probably not "normal" since I don't do either one. That seems to be a tactic of the left to call everyone they disagree with a "troll", a "sheep" and a "lib" and intimidate them to hopefully leave. Intimidation doesn't work with me. In fact, the more people try to intimidate me, the more I know that I am speaking the truth that the libs cannot bear and the more I want to stick around. Thank you for letting me know that I definitely need to stay on this site!
:thumbup: Good. Welcome to the forum.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 07:41:17 AM
So I guess according to you, anyone can be accused of anything. It doesn't matter what one says, the mind readers will interject whatever they please? Sounds very liberal, quite biased and quite communistic.
Ahahaha who said anything about mind reading? Seems you heard what you wanted instead of what I said, very liberal of you.
Do you not believe in the existence of common sense and critical thinking? Or do you want everyone speaking legalese so there is never room for error?
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Hmmm, so, there is no truth on television? Only YOU know the truth? Only YOU have the facts? Why aren't you doing something then? Why there was no reason for any of this, all they had to do was install you and everything would have been right? You must think of yourself as omnipotent, huh?
It's NOT I who needs to read my words again, it is YOU. Nowhere in my comment did I say that "My words were twisted", that was YOU interjecting what you WANTED to see there.
As far as what I watch on television, if I watch television or when I watch television, that is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! You lefties may think that you have intimidated those who are weak or frighten those who will run from your bullying but, I am not one of them! I will NOT be intimidated, will NOT run in fear and will stand up for what I believe in regardless of what you libs do, accuse, twist, lie, misinform or otherwise coerce by clandestine means.
LOL who are you trying to fool here? You come onto CONSERVATIVE political forum and call us all leftists?
And yes, CFP is one of the few reliable sources of info left. You find alot here that is hidden elsewhere.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 11:11:31 AM
And like I said, liberals ALWAYS see themselves as smarter, more educated, kinder and "better" than everyone else. It seems that liberals think that they have the "only truth" and everyone else is misinformed. Consequently, no source is EVER correct information as far as they are concerned. The problem is that virtually every source has been hijacked by the liberals so you cannot believe any one source but, have to look at many sources to get a true representation of the truth.
I gave you a chance to enlighten everyone with your supposed knowledge but, you offered nothing. Needless to say, I wasn't impressed. So IF I have a TV and IF I watch it and IF I watch "news" and WHEN I watch it remains none of your business. Next I suppose you'll want to know the brand and model of toilet in my home. Liberals love to stick their nose in other people's business...
Except that conservatives actually are smarter, more educated, and more kind than the libbies, history proves that. Right now the majority sees the truth, not just conservatives, tho as usual we saw it first. And its not directly about being conservative either, its about approaching things with an honest open mind, which the left cannot do.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
Right and YOUR statements are so much more intelligent than mine. Why I can't understand how I can even figure out how to turn on a PC. Why, it is a miracle that I can even figure out how to answer a post as I am so "stupid". Why my "idiotic" comments are such that I am surprised that I am even allowed out on the street! Why I guess my "butt hurt" is such that I can't believe that I can even sit down. I guess profanity and name calling is "normal" so I am probably not "normal" since I don't do either one. That seems to be a tactic of the left to call everyone they disagree with a "troll", a "sheep" and a "lib" and intimidate them to hopefully leave. Intimidation doesn't work with me. In fact, the more people try to intimidate me, the more I know that I am speaking the truth that the libs cannot bear and the more I want to stick around. Thank you for letting me know that I definitely need to stay on this site!
Ok at this point you definitely fit the definition of 'triggered'.
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
Right and YOUR statements are so much more intelligent than mine. Why I can't understand how I can even figure out how to turn on a PC. Why, it is a miracle that I can even figure out how to answer a post as I am so "stupid". Why my "idiotic" comments are such that I am surprised that I am even allowed out on the street! Why I guess my "butt hurt" is such that I can't believe that I can even sit down. I guess profanity and name calling is "normal" so I am probably not "normal" since I don't do either one. That seems to be a tactic of the left to call everyone they disagree with a "troll", a "sheep" and a "lib" and intimidate them to hopefully leave. Intimidation doesn't work with me. In fact, the more people try to intimidate me, the more I know that I am speaking the truth that the libs cannot bear and the more I want to stick around. Thank you for letting me know that I definitely need to stay on this site!
Good, that is the first step on your recovery. Stay and you have a chance at finding a cure to your anger. Leave and your fate is what you make....
Quote from: T Hunt on October 14, 2020, 07:22:54 AM
Good, that is the first step on your recovery. Stay and you have a chance at finding a cure to your anger. Leave and your fate is what you make....
"Recovery"? From what? "Anger"? What is there to be angry about? There is absolutely no one and nothing that some unknown, nameless, faceless idiot on the web could say, post or accuse me of that would even phase me.
You can pat yourself on the back and smugly tell yourself that Conservatives are "angry" or that they need to "recover" but, it's all just smoke and mirrors.
God is in charge so there is absolutely nothing to be anxious nor angry about. IF I need to "recover" from anything, God will take care of it through His Holy Spirit not human beings. I'll say one thing for you, you give yourself a whole lot of credit. Too bad that there are no awards for arrogance, smugness, vitriol, hostility nor hyperbole...
Quote from: RV on October 14, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
"Recovery"? From what? "Anger"? What is there to be angry about? There is absolutely no one and nothing that some unknown, nameless, faceless idiot on the web could say, post or accuse me of that would even phase me.
Recovery from your doom and gloom attitude it seems you have. But calm down, im only half serious.
QuoteYou can pat yourself on the back and smugly tell yourself that Conservatives are "angry" or that they need to "recover" but, it's all just smoke and mirrors.
Being a conservative myself I can assure you that we are not angry. We are winning.
QuoteGod is in charge so there is absolutely nothing to be anxious nor angry about. IF I need to "recover" from anything, God will take care of it through His Holy Spirit not human beings. I'll say one thing for you, you give yourself a whole lot of credit. Too bad that there are no awards for arrogance, smugness, vitriol, hostility nor hyperbole...
Yes. Im glad to see your heart and soul are in the right place.
Quote from: T Hunt on October 14, 2020, 08:30:39 PM
Recovery from your doom and gloom attitude it seems you have. But calm down, im only half serious.
Being a conservative myself I can assure you that we are not angry. We are winning.
Yes. Im glad to see your heart and soul are in the right place.
Oh wait, I apologize. I was under the impression that people on sites like this could read... "Doom and gloom attitude?" So I guess you weren't able to read the part where I said that GOD not man is in charge. "Calm down"? Please don't flatter yourself, absolutely NOTHING anyone could post, accuse, claim nor say would in any way upset me. I know who is REALLY in charge and I know who REALLY created everything so He is in charge. There is absolutely nothing to get excited nor upset about. God's got this, regardless of who attempts to say otherwise!
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2020, 07:18:51 AM
Oh wait, I apologize. I was under the impression that people on sites like this could read... "Doom and gloom attitude?" So I guess you weren't able to read the part where I said that GOD not man is in charge. "Calm down"? Please don't flatter yourself, absolutely NOTHING anyone could post, accuse, claim nor say would in any way upset me. I know who is REALLY in charge and I know who REALLY created everything so He is in charge. There is absolutely nothing to get excited nor upset about. God's got this, regardless of who attempts to say otherwise!
That is your saving grace.
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2020, 07:18:51 AM
Oh wait, I apologize. I was under the impression that people on sites like this could read... "Doom and gloom attitude?" So I guess you weren't able to read the part where I said that GOD not man is in charge. "Calm down"? Please don't flatter yourself, absolutely NOTHING anyone could post, accuse, claim nor say would in any way upset me. I know who is REALLY in charge and I know who REALLY created everything so He is in charge. There is absolutely nothing to get excited nor upset about. God's got this, regardless of who attempts to say otherwise!
Yet here you are causing issues because people refuse your bull shit. Get used to getting called out by Real Conservatives, we have no use for your passive aggressive narcissists crap.
T was Right, you had a fucked up childhood as teachers pet and neighborhood snitch, behavior that no longer wins you praise from your betters, only ridicule.
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2020, 07:18:51 AM
Oh wait, I apologize. I was under the impression that people on sites like this could read... "Doom and gloom attitude?" So I guess you weren't able to read the part where I said that GOD not man is in charge. "Calm down"? Please don't flatter yourself, absolutely NOTHING anyone could post, accuse, claim nor say would in any way upset me. I know who is REALLY in charge and I know who REALLY created everything so He is in charge. There is absolutely nothing to get excited nor upset about. God's got this, regardless of who attempts to say otherwise!
Are you promising that we will never go communism and watch millions die as has happened in too many other countries? Are you saying we should not be bothered to go out in vote? Are you saying we should have no worries? Are you saying we should give up? WHAT is your message besides looking down on others?
Oh, and by the way, from what I can gather from this forum, most here are believers in God. We just do not believe in sitting on our butt and watching the world go by.
Quote from: Possum on October 16, 2020, 07:23:30 AM
Are you promising that we will never go communism and watch millions die as has happened in too many other countries? Are you saying we should not be bothered to go out in vote? Are you saying we should have no worries? Are you saying we should give up? WHAT is your message besides looking down on others?
Oh, and by the way, from what I can gather from this forum, most here are believers in God. We just do not believe in sitting on our butt and watching the world go by.
No, I'm not saying that the U.S. will never go Communistic. There are obvious miscreants within our country that believe that Communism is preferable. These folks have never actually lived under Communism but, somehow believe that it's "better" than capitalism.
No, I have never told anyone not to vote. As a matter of fact, I have voted in every election since I became of age.
There is absolutely nothing in scripture which in any way would allow Christians to "worry" about anything. We are supposed to trust God, His power, His will, His commandments, His omnipotence and His omniscience.
There is absolutely nothing in any of my comments which in any way would tell anyone to give up, sit on their butt nor do nothing. I also believe that just believing in God is not enough. Scripture tells us that even the devil and his demons believe in God so, clearly just believing is not enough.
Jesus died for ALL. Jesus shed His precious blood that ALL might be saved. Your comment about "looking down" on others is typical of those who do not know God nor His scriptures.
Quote from: RV on October 16, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
No, I'm not saying that the U.S. will never go Communistic. There are obvious miscreants within our country that believe that Communism is preferable. These folks have never actually lived under Communism but, somehow believe that it's "better" than capitalism.
No, I have never told anyone not to vote. As a matter of fact, I have voted in every election since I became of age.
There is absolutely nothing in scripture which in any way would allow Christians to "worry" about anything. We are supposed to trust God, His power, His will, His commandments, His omnipotence and His omniscience.
There is absolutely nothing in any of my comments which in any way would tell anyone to give up, sit on their butt nor do nothing. I also believe that just believing in God is not enough. Scripture tells us that even the devil and his demons believe in God so, clearly just believing is not enough.
Jesus died for ALL. Jesus shed His precious blood that ALL might be saved. Your comment about "looking down" on others is typical of those who do not know God nor His scriptures.
I am talking about how your posts come across as looking down on others, in other words arrogance. You know , like how you just judged me on not knowing God or his scriptures just because you did not understand what was said.
Quote from: RV on October 16, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
No, I'm not saying that the U.S. will never go Communistic. There are obvious miscreants within our country that believe that Communism is preferable. These folks have never actually lived under Communism but, somehow believe that it's "better" than capitalism.
No, I have never told anyone not to vote. As a matter of fact, I have voted in every election since I became of age.
There is absolutely nothing in scripture which in any way would allow Christians to "worry" about anything. We are supposed to trust God, His power, His will, His commandments, His omnipotence and His omniscience.
There is absolutely nothing in any of my comments which in any way would tell anyone to give up, sit on their butt nor do nothing. I also believe that just believing in God is not enough. Scripture tells us that even the devil and his demons believe in God so, clearly just believing is not enough.
Jesus died for ALL. Jesus shed His precious blood that ALL might be saved. Your comment about "looking down" on others is typical of those who do not know God nor His scriptures.
How about you stick to politics in the Poli forum and leave Religion to the Religion Forum....
Quote from: RV on October 12, 2020, 07:52:52 AM
So, I guess according to you, it doesn't matter what someone says, the mind readers will interject whatever they please that supports their accusation(s). I'm not a "victim", have NEVER been a "victim" and have never referred to myself as such. The "REAL" victims are the people I listed, regardless of how you and your liberal friends try to portray it. I was "treated well"? Hmmm, so I guess that means that the verbal attacks could have been physical but, instead were not? I believe that is the same upsidedown "logic" that Antifa, BLM and the KKK uses.
"Relax"? So, you assume that I'm not? "Take the time to read"? So, again, you are making assumptions? My Daddy always told me never to assume...
Name a victim.
Quote from: taxed on October 16, 2020, 04:53:16 PM
Name a victim.
He wouldn't recognize an olive branch if it was used across his ass. I tried to be nice, and you know me, that isn't easy, but he chose the low road instead.
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
He wouldn't recognize an olive branch if it was used across his ass. I tried to be nice, and you know me, that isn't easy, but he chose the low road instead.
I forgot. We're all doomed and we're losing.
I need to post-it that on my laptop so I can remember.
Quote from: taxed on October 16, 2020, 04:59:02 PM
I forgot. We're all doomed and we're losing.
I need to post-it that on my laptop so I can remember.
That reminds me, how's Andy Jackson doing? I unlocked his account thinking he might come back and admit he was wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2020, 05:00:52 PM
That reminds me, how's Andy Jackson doing? I unlocked his account thinking he might come back and admit he was wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol:
He's in a bunker waiting for Hillary's brownshirts to take him away...
Quote from: taxed on October 16, 2020, 05:01:32 PM
He's in a bunker waiting for Hillary's brownshirts to take him away...
I swear, you could give the guy a million dollars, and he'd bitch about the taxes, never once saying thanx....
Quote from: Solar on October 16, 2020, 04:51:42 PM
How about you stick to politics in the Poli forum and leave Religion to the Religion Forum....
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Quote from: Possum on October 16, 2020, 03:59:18 PM
I am talking about how your posts come across as looking down on others, in other words arrogance. You know , like how you just judged me on not knowing God or his scriptures just because you did not understand what was said.
Somehow I KNEW that you'd get around to the accusation of "looking down on others". Every unbeliever has made that tired old accusation when anyone praised God, quoted scripture or claimed that God is and was in control. Unbelievers always accuse Christians of not understanding their words as well. Honestly since Christians are so "stupid" and apparently "don't understand the English language", I'm not sure how they navigate this world, drive a car, read, how they got through school nor raised children...
Quote from: RV on October 17, 2020, 09:33:24 AM
Somehow I KNEW that you'd get around to the accusation of "looking down on others". Every unbeliever has made that tired old accusation when anyone praised God, quoted scripture or claimed that God is and was in control. Unbelievers always accuse Christians of not understanding their words as well. Honestly since Christians are so "stupid" and apparently "don't understand the English language", I'm not sure how they navigate this world, drive a car, read, how they got through school nor raised children...
You just proved my point. I have a very strong faith in God, and yet you called me an unbeliever without knowing me. Go back and reread what I wrote, you are way off the mark, as you have been ever since you started posting.
You spoke like an unbeliever, no I don't know you and probably will never meet you, (thank the Lord!). No, I don't KNOW the state of your heart as I cannot read minds. It WON'T be me who determines your fate, it will be the Lord. As I said before, even the devil and his demons are believers.
Quote from: RV on October 18, 2020, 04:58:15 PM
You spoke like an unbeliever, no I don't know you and probably will never meet you, (thank the Lord!). No, I don't KNOW the state of your heart as I cannot read minds. It WON'T be me who determines your fate, it will be the Lord. As I said before, even the devil and his demons are believers.
And yet without knowing you sure judge a lot. I have no problem meeting my maker, he will not be taking any advice from you.