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General Category => Religion Forum => Topic started by: kroz on October 05, 2015, 05:49:27 AM

Title: Christians make a stand
Post by: kroz on October 05, 2015, 05:49:27 AM
Christians are beginning to take a more proactive role in protecting their religious rights.

http://www.bringyourbible.org/

Is this a positive sign or not?

IMHO, if we don't start exercising our rights, they will evaporate.  All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing!
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: kit saginaw on October 12, 2015, 04:00:58 AM
It was a solid success.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865638585/100000-students-bring-Bibles-to-school-for-BringYourBible-day.html?pg=all

Schools can't say much about a 'special day'.  Nor can they stop kids from associating with faith-kids.
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: kroz on October 12, 2015, 06:30:51 AM
Quote from: kit saginaw on October 12, 2015, 04:00:58 AM
It was a solid success.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865638585/100000-students-bring-Bibles-to-school-for-BringYourBible-day.html?pg=all

Schools can't say much about a 'special day'.  Nor can they stop kids from associating with faith-kids.

Terrific!  Thanks for the post, kit.   :wink:
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: daidalos on October 17, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Why do we need a "bring your Bible to school day".

When a student already can, anytime they choose too?

It's already existent, settled law in the U.S.

A school, nor it's staff, cannot interfere with, nor sanction students, who choose to pray, read the Bible etc...especially if it's on their own time, such as say at recess or study hall or lunch etc. Nor can a school infringe upon their first amendment rights in anyway.

So what's the need for this? Except to say of course, "look at me, look how holy I am".

And well we all know what Jesus himself had to say about that, and those who uh, lets just say "behave" that way.

Hint, it wasn't nice, lovey dovey, and was in fact at that time, quite rude.

As in that day, what Christ said about those who were like that, was very much akin to sitting down at supper with the President or a Senator and then telling them Mr/Mrs. President or Mr/Mrs Senator, you sir/madam are a lying, scumbag. But the food and wine is good!

It wouldn't go over well today, it didn't in the time of the Lord's Earthly ministry either.

Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: kroz on October 17, 2015, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: daidalos on October 17, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Why do we need a "bring your Bible to school day".

When a student already can, anytime they choose too?

It's already existent, settled law in the U.S.

A school, nor it's staff, cannot interfere with, nor sanction students, who choose to pray, read the Bible etc...especially if it's on their own time, such as say at recess or study hall or lunch etc. Nor can a school infringe upon their first amendment rights in anyway.

So what's the need for this? Except to say of course, "look at me, look how holy I am".

And well we all know what Jesus himself had to say about that, and those who uh, lets just say "behave" that way.

Hint, it wasn't nice, lovey dovey, and was in fact at that time, quite rude.

As in that day, what Christ said about those who were like that, was very much akin to sitting down at supper with the President or a Senator and then telling them Mr/Mrs. President or Mr/Mrs Senator, you sir/madam are a lying, scumbag. But the food and wine is good!

It wouldn't go over well today, it didn't in the time of the Lord's Earthly ministry either.

That is a rather large leap on your part.  You have no way of knowing what was in the hearts of these students.  I think it had nothing to do with pride.  They were expressing their Constitutional rights.  That is all it was about.
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: zewazir on October 17, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
Quote from: daidalos on October 17, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Why do we need a "bring your Bible to school day".

When a student already can, anytime they choose too?

It's already existent, settled law in the U.S.

A school, nor it's staff, cannot interfere with, nor sanction students, who choose to pray, read the Bible etc...especially if it's on their own time, such as say at recess or study hall or lunch etc. Nor can a school infringe upon their first amendment rights in anyway.

So what's the need for this? Except to say of course, "look at me, look how holy I am".

And well we all know what Jesus himself had to say about that, and those who uh, lets just say "behave" that way.

Hint, it wasn't nice, lovey dovey, and was in fact at that time, quite rude.

As in that day, what Christ said about those who were like that, was very much akin to sitting down at supper with the President or a Senator and then telling them Mr/Mrs. President or Mr/Mrs Senator, you sir/madam are a lying, scumbag. But the food and wine is good!

It wouldn't go over well today, it didn't in the time of the Lord's Earthly ministry either.
In case you haven't noticed, liberals have this strange tendency to ignore the Constitution, court decisions and the written law when any of them conflict with the advancement of the humanist progressive agenda - especially when it comes to their war on religion.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/05/teacher-tells-student-cant-read-bible-in-my-classroom.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/24/mom-claims-school-banned-son-bible-used-inappropriate-worksheets/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/02/AR2006100201238.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/31/boy-suspended-for-bringing-bible-to-school-files-suit/

http://www.click2houston.com/news/teacher-accused-of-not-allowing-student-to-read-bible-duing-reading-time/25608356

https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-tn-protects-students-right-read-bible-school

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Student-Not-Allowed-Talk-About-Bible-School-Lawyer-240195351.html

http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/boy-suspended-school-reading-bible-recess/

The courts were explicit in the statement guarding students rights in the public schools back in 1994.  They reiterated the same several times. in 2011 they were even more adamant that public schools cannot interfere in any way with students rights which include full first amendment rights. Yet schools continue to imply they have the authority to forbid students the right to bring bibles to school to speak about God, to include religious beliefs in class presentations, or to pray or talk about God in graduation speeches.  The students who participate are not bragging about reading the Bible.  They are exercising their rights, and in doing so standing up to an ever increasing tyranny in our government. Frankly this topic is about our freedom, far more so than it is about religion itself. In fact religion might not even be mentioned specifically if it weren't for the fact that the ONLY free speech and expression being curtailed is, specifically, speech and/or expression about Christianity.
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: milos on November 02, 2015, 02:02:22 AM
Jesus called us to preach His teaching. Nothing more to say about this.
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: red_dirt on November 06, 2015, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: milos on November 02, 2015, 02:02:22 AM
Jesus called us to preach His teaching. Nothing more to say about this.

I try to find time to read "The Koran." I have The Everyman's Library edition (orig. Knopf, 1909) Translation by Islamic convert M. Pickthall, with Intro by William Watt. This edition is highly regarded in spite of the translator's admission that he had to "sugar coat" in some instances, to get it by the authorities.  Still, it is regarded as authentic.  It is subtitled, "The Meaning of the Glorious Koran"  if that gives an idea.
There are some 114 numbered and named sections, each called a Surah, a chapter, or even a Sutra. Today I am reading Surah IX, "Repentance."
Reading the Koran, the reader will gain required knowledge and understanding of the Islamic ideology as presented by Mohammed The Prophet. Taking the information second hand, without cross referencing with the source, will likely lead to confusion and lack of true knowledge. There are also several good online sources for guidance. My two favorite are Robert Spencer and Walid Shoebat. 
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: red_dirt on November 07, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
Remember this guy?  He was busted in Dearborn for tracting with CBT in the vicinity of a Moslem fest.  Now he has his own channel.  I came upon it asking the question, "Who do the Muz consider idolators?" Oh, yeah, baby, that'd be us.
:scared:
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: kroz on November 07, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on November 07, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
Remember this guy?  He was busted in Dearborn for tracting with CBT in the vicinity of a Moslem fest.  Now he has his own channel.  I came upon it asking the question, "Who do the Muz consider idolators?" Oh, yeah, baby, that'd be us.
:scared:

What guy??    :confused:
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: red_dirt on November 07, 2015, 11:09:51 PM
The one pictured on the right panel.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/06/idolatry-and-islamic-worship.html
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: kroz on November 08, 2015, 05:39:34 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on November 07, 2015, 11:09:51 PM
The one pictured on the right panel.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/06/idolatry-and-islamic-worship.html

Oh, okay.  Now I get it!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Christians make a stand
Post by: red_dirt on November 08, 2015, 06:50:33 PM
I forgot to post the link .  :blushing:  I still recall that man in the video of the confrontation with Moslems in Dearborn.  Now, of course, everything he predicted about Dearborn becoming Moslem has come to pass.