Atheism and Trans: a debate

Started by Frenchconnection, February 15, 2021, 11:12:47 AM

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Frenchconnection

I was watching Jordan Peterson nuke some atheist and I started to think about the atheist argument against God. 

No proof that God exists.  We would say, yes there is plenty of proof besides Polaroids, but in the end it requires faith.

There is no proof that transsexuals exist in the natural state.  The just say that it exists and we're to take there word for it so they can begin mutilating their body. 

Using atheist dogma, transsexualism does not exist since there is no proof but feelings.  (this was argued better in my head)

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Rawlings

Well, of course, one doesn't need faith to believe that God exists.  God's existence is self-evident per the imperatives of logic, mathematics and science:  http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/new-board/the-incontrovertible-science-and-mathematics-of-god's-existence/

Transexuqlism exists, of course, but only as an aggregate of evil.

p1tchblack

Even if you believe that the universe and everything in it has a "creator", you have no idea if any of the currently worshipped gods are the correct god.
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winterset

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 11:17:19 AM
Even if you believe that the universe and everything in it has a "creator", you have no idea if any of the currently worshipped gods are the correct god.

Its the various religions that are screwed up.  Thousands of years of drift in what was meant and what was written makes me pretty skeptical of any formal religion though I firmly believe in the existence of god.

RV

Quote from: winterset on April 09, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
Its the various religions that are screwed up.  Thousands of years of drift in what was meant and what was written makes me pretty skeptical of any formal religion though I firmly believe in the existence of god.

I agree that "religion" is messed up. What I cannot understand is why people are so gullible as to believe that there are "gods" when we have ONE Bible, ONE Son of God, ONE Holy Spirit, ONE Heaven, ONE Hell and ONE Salvation. God's message is clear, plain, understandable and eternal.
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Quote from: RV on April 09, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
I agree that "religion" is messed up. What I cannot understand is why people are so gullible as to believe that there are "gods" when we have ONE Bible, ONE Son of God, ONE Holy Spirit, ONE Heaven, ONE Hell and ONE Salvation. God's message is clear, plain, understandable and eternal.

It has not changed and it is as relevant today as it was in the day that God inspired his prophets to write it down.
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Quote from: Calypso Jones on April 09, 2021, 02:05:19 PM
It has not changed and it is as relevant today as it was in the day that God inspired his prophets to write it down.

Absolutely true! For over two thousand years, people have been trying to claim that they are confused by all the "gods" of "religion". Scripture is clear that narrow is the way and few who find it.
RV

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p1tchblack

Quote from: Calypso Jones on April 09, 2021, 02:05:19 PM
It has not changed and it is as relevant today as it was in the day that God inspired his prophets to write it down.

If you were born in another part of the world,  you'd be equally convinced of the validity of other gods.
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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 05:09:36 PM
If you were born in another part of the world,  you'd be equally convinced of the validity of other gods.

Narrow is the way and few who find it...
RV

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Sick Of Silence

With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

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Quote from: p1tchblack on April 09, 2021, 05:09:36 PM
If you were born in another part of the world,  you'd be equally convinced of the validity of other gods.
Be it one God or 100, they at least recognize a higher power exists, unlike the religion of the atheist in believing of nothing.
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Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 09, 2021, 08:51:09 PM
Link to the video?

I cannot say whether it's in a "video" or not so, there is no link. It is in the Bible.
RV

"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

p1tchblack

Quote from: RV on April 09, 2021, 06:54:35 PM
Narrow is the way and few who find it...

Which is due, in large part, because God has stopped doing anything to prove he exists, as he did during the life of Jesus.
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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: RV on April 10, 2021, 06:07:53 AM
I cannot say whether it's in a "video" or not so, there is no link. It is in the Bible.

The Jordan Peterson video.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

RV

Quote from: p1tchblack on April 10, 2021, 09:38:03 AM
Which is due, in large part, because God has stopped doing anything to prove he exists, as he did during the life of Jesus.

That is your opinion. It's not what I believe, it's not scriptural and it's not fact.
RV

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