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QuoteWeissmann took the pardons personally since he's the one who hunted down people in Trump's orbit and persecuted them.
Weissmann cooked up a new plot to prosecute both Manafort and Stone.
asy enough to beat Trump at his game: put Stone and Manafort in the grand jury after 1/20/21 to get at what they have hidden from the government about Trump- and if they then lie, they can be prosecuted for perjury and obstruction.
— Andrew Weissmann (@AWeissmann_) December 24, 2020
They're not giving up. About time to brace yourselves for an onslaught of Liberal thrashing & start fighting back. The Globalists-Marxists-Liberal-Democrats fought every-step-of-the-way, and sucked much of the GOP in with them, against the smallest things President Trump (libs hate that) was trying to do for America. Once Trump is out of office (in a month or 4yrs + a month), they're going to attempt to punish Trump and *all* Conservatives.
It's getting serious, there isn't enough caves to retreat into, places to hide - stand up, speak up!
It's becoming a "thing"
https://www.independentsentinel.com/maga-christmas-celebrations-in-whitmers-michigan/
QuoteMAGA Christmas celebrations in Whitmer's Michigan met by armed commies
The diverse Proud Boys and white communist revolutionaries had to face off a few times, but no violence. The police were missing most of the time. They were ordered to stand down.
The Catholic nuns came with placards, 'Stand Up Against Socialism."
Armed communists met the celebrants, even in Lansing. They are growing in strength because no one will stop them. The government is not keeping Americans safe from communists.
"Arm the proletariat!"
Some antifa militants with guns protest the MAGA Christmas event in Lansing, Mich. pic.twitter.com/72X8XploqD
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) December 24, 2020
note: the police were told to 'stand down'. Wonder if Gretchen Whitmer was hoping for violence & bloodshed?
Quote from: Hoofer on December 24, 2020, 06:02:36 AM
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They're not giving up. About time to brace yourselves for an onslaught of Liberal thrashing & start fighting back. The Globalists-Marxists-Liberal-Democrats fought every-step-of-the-way, and sucked much of the GOP in with them, against the smallest things President Trump (libs hate that) was trying to do for America. Once Trump is out of office (in a month or 4yrs + a month), they're going to attempt to punish Trump and *all* Conservatives.
It's getting serious, there isn't enough caves to retreat into, places to hide - stand up, speak up!
LOL, you are calling on cowards like trump to "stand up"? Hell, they have been on their knees kissing trumps ring for 5 years now. They don't even have a spine left. Try this on for size:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/here-are-the-questionable-trump-pardons-that-you-did-not-hear-about-last-night/?utm_source=mostpopular
So, what's your point? Prison forever? Typical Democrat, beat them down, suppress them, oppress them, don't ever give them a second chance, lock 'em up forever, take revenge! Perfect example of WHY I left the Liberal-Democrat party, they are heartless SOBs, devoid of love & forgiveness... obviously devoid of God.
Why do cultists love the Democrat party, and shun the Republican party? Democrats love death, misery, racism, oppression - everything counter to the Constitution. Andrew Weissman is a miserable man, and misery loves company.
Donald Trump is a man who understands forgiveness. I'll not mock the man who exercises that kind of GRACE, why do you?
Quote from: Hoofer on December 25, 2020, 05:31:50 AM
Why do cultists love the Democrat party, and shun the Republican party? Democrats love death, misery, racism, oppression - everything counter to the Constitution. Andrew Weissman is a miserable man, and misery loves company.
You left out a couple of thigs, Democrats also love criminals, specifically street criminals. Demented Morons like old Yapper dances with glee when his fellow Marxist release thousands of felons from prison in time to cast phony votes and catch up on rape, robbery drug dealing etc etc in the mean time. But let out some white collar criminal convicted because of political reasons and its a terrible miscarriage of justice because the guy has a R next to his name.
It just displays their irrational hatred and hypocracy
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 24, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
LOL, you are calling on cowards like trump to "stand up"? Hell, they have been on their knees kissing trumps ring for 5 years now. They don't even have a spine left. Try this on for size:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/here-are-the-questionable-trump-pardons-that-you-did-not-hear-about-last-night/?utm_source=mostpopular
LOL youre suffering everyday from TDS. Thats why youre so angry at trump. That anger is what lost you this election.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 25, 2020, 05:47:01 AM
You left out a couple of thigs, Democrats also love criminals, specifically street criminals. Demented Morons like old Yapper dances with glee when his fellow Marxist release thousands of felons from prison in time to cast phony votes and catch up on rape, robbery drug dealing etc etc in the mean time. But let out some white collar criminal convicted because of political reasons and its a terrible miscarriage of justice because the guy has a R next to his name.
It just displays their irrational hatred and hypocracy
Listening to some pundits and media one would think presidential pardons are something created by Trump. Every president grants them and those always irritate someone. Truly a non event.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 24, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
LOL, you are calling on cowards like trump to "stand up"? Hell, they have been on their knees kissing trumps ring for 5 years now. They don't even have a spine left. Try this on for size:
The fact that it knots your panties makes his pardons all that much sweeter. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 24, 2020, 09:30:23 PM
LOL, you are calling on cowards like trump to "stand up"? Hell, they have been on their knees kissing trumps ring for 5 years now. They don't even have a spine left. Try this on for size:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/here-are-the-questionable-trump-pardons-that-you-did-not-hear-about-last-night/?utm_source=mostpopular
Since you are so smart what were Mark Rich and his wife doing with Clinton for his pardon?
:thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on December 25, 2020, 07:28:15 AM
The fact that it knots your panties makes his pardons all that much sweeter. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 25, 2020, 08:16:42 AM
Since you are so smart what were Mark Rich and his wife doing with Clinton for his pardon?
Seems I recall that the Rich's gave the Clintongs a lot of campaign cash. And, that miserable goat semen sucking muslim and his tranny husband that stunk up the White House for 8 years gave out almost 2,000 pardons.
So to the marxist/leftist/socialist/antifa/blm/democraps, Merry Christmas, now go fuck yourself.
Quote from: Hoofer on December 25, 2020, 05:31:50 AM
Donald Trump is a man who understands forgiveness. I'll not mock the man who exercises that kind of GRACE, why do you?
Funny how fools like you find excuses for your gawds, yet never for your fellow man. If a Black is sent to prison for 20 years on a drug charge you applaud the system. But when a crony of trump is sentenced to life for murdering children you find his actions as one of "Grace". Was it "grace" that deemed he should send immigrants back of life of hell?
Would you feel the same way if trump cleansed the system of all Blacks wrongfiully imprisoned? How would you feel if refugees from Central America were allowed to enter the country in accordance with our laws, and not the approx. 400 EO's trump has filed?
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
Really? So half of the United States is "trash"? Is that how the Marxist justify murdering half the country? That is the same argument that the Nazi's used to murder 6 Million Jews...
Quote from: RV on December 25, 2020, 06:18:58 PM
Really? So half of the United States is "trash"? Is that how the Marxist justify murdering half the country? That is the same argument that the Nazi's used to murder 6 Million Jews...
Half???
More than that.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Funny how fools like you find excuses for your gawds, yet never for your fellow man. If a Black is sent to prison for 20 years on a drug charge you applaud the system. But when a crony of trump is sentenced to life for murdering children you find his actions as one of "Grace". Was it "grace" that deemed he should send immigrants back of life of hell?
Would you feel the same way if trump cleansed the system of all Blacks wrongfiully imprisoned? How would you feel if refugees from Central America were allowed to enter the country in accordance with our laws, and not the approx. 400 EO's trump has filed?
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
Did you miss Trump Pardoning the Black lady who was given a long sentence for a minor drug charge? Did you disagree with that?
I have noticed you do not answer a number of my questions. That is an indication of you being exposed.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on December 25, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
Half???
More than that.
You're right, it's probably more like 60 - 75%
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Funny how fools like you find excuses for your gawds, yet never for your fellow man. If a Black is sent to prison for 20 years on a drug charge you applaud the system. But when a crony of trump is sentenced to life for murdering children you find his actions as one of "Grace". Was it "grace" that deemed he should send immigrants back of life of hell?
Would you feel the same way if trump cleansed the system of all Blacks wrongfiully imprisoned? How would you feel if refugees from Central America were allowed to enter the country in accordance with our laws, and not the approx. 400 EO's trump has filed?
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
a. Donald Trump is not a god, quit talking stupid. He is a forgiven man, just as I am.
b. All those promises of prison / sentencing reforms... well, President Trump (libs hate that), actually DID something. But, that's not what Andrew Weissmann wants, no sir, he's a typical Democrat, who would gladly twist the law and make being a Conservative a punishable offense. The guy is sick in the head.
Talk is cheap. Trump did more in 4 years than Biden did in 47, and we're a better country because of it. Unfortunately, for the Democrats, the cat-is-outta-da-bag, people got a taste of freedom, less regulation and a roaring economy. Biden/Harris have the task of keeping everything locked down, lest freedom ring in the land again. Take a hike - the personal slams show the weakness of your position.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Funny how fools like you find excuses for your gawds, yet never for your fellow man. If a Black is sent to prison for 20 years on a drug charge you applaud the system. But when a crony of trump is sentenced to life for murdering children you find his actions as one of "Grace". Was it "grace" that deemed he should send immigrants back of life of hell?
Would you feel the same way if trump cleansed the system of all Blacks wrongfiully imprisoned? How would you feel if refugees from Central America were allowed to enter the country in accordance with our laws, and not the approx. 400 EO's trump has filed?
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
Well you're an idiot. Nothing you say is based in reality. I think 400 mg of Thorazine in an IV push, repeated every hour as needed would help you. If you're still stoopid after that, please leave the country you hate so much. Oh, and take all the black convicts and illegal aliens that you have been housing, feeding and educating with you.
Quote from: Hoofer on December 26, 2020, 06:47:02 AM
a. Donald Trump is not a god, quit talking stupid. He is a forgiven man, just as I am.
One of the prerequisites for forgiveness is repentance, and your gawd says he does not believe in repentance, or that he has done anything wrong. Adultery, lying, stealing, etc., are all acceptable in trumps world. How about yours?
[/quote]b. All those promises of prison / sentencing reforms... well, President Trump (libs hate that), actually DID something. But, that's not what Andrew Weissmann wants, no sir, he's a typical Democrat, who would gladly twist the law and make being a Conservative a punishable offense. The guy is sick in the head.[/quote]
If that were true he would be opening all of the doors, not just those for his supporters, and cronies. And then you follow that up with a lie as is typical for your kind of "christian". Amnesty International, and others, have a list of names of those in prison who have been placed there falsely, mostly Black, for decades. Maybe their skin color has something to do with it.
QuoteTalk is cheap. Trump did more in 4 years than Biden did in 47, and we're a better country because of it. Unfortunately, for the Democrats, the cat-is-outta-da-bag, people got a taste of freedom, less regulation and a roaring economy. Biden/Harris have the task of keeping everything locked down, lest freedom ring in the land again. Take a hike - the personal slams show the weakness of your position.
Delusional I see. How many must die before you understand that your "freedom" comes at a cost that few can afford? And not just from covid, but from the immigrants that were turned away in violation of our laws, just to satisfy the 400 EO's that trump made? How about the thousands seeking food, and going hungry, while your lesser gawds tremble at the sound of trumps rantings?
Showing up cowards like you for their lies, and delusions, brings a song to my heart.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 25, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Funny how fools like you find excuses for your gawds, yet never for your fellow man. If a Black is sent to prison for 20 years on a drug charge you applaud the system. But when a crony of trump is sentenced to life for murdering children you find his actions as one of "Grace". Was it "grace" that deemed he should send immigrants back of life of hell?
Would you feel the same way if trump cleansed the system of all Blacks wrongfiully imprisoned? How would you feel if refugees from Central America were allowed to enter the country in accordance with our laws, and not the approx. 400 EO's trump has filed?
Donald trump is trash, and so are his followers.
Your the ones who worshiped the annointed one obama and whos god is gvt. Try again.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
One of the prerequisites for forgiveness is repentance, and your gawd says he does not believe in repentance, or that he has done anything wrong. Adultery, lying, stealing, etc., are all acceptable in trumps world. How about yours?
b. All those promises of prison / sentencing reforms... well, President Trump (libs hate that), actually DID something. But, that's not what Andrew Weissmann wants, no sir, he's a typical Democrat, who would gladly twist the law and make being a Conservative a punishable offense. The guy is sick in the head.
If that were true he would be opening all of the doors, not just those for his supporters, and cronies. And then you follow that up with a lie as is typical for your kind of "christian". Amnesty International, and others, have a list of names of those in prison who have been placed there falsely, mostly Black, for decades. Maybe their skin color has something to do with it.
Delusional I see. How many must die before you understand that your "freedom" comes at a cost that few can afford? And not just from covid, but from the immigrants that were turned away in violation of our laws, just to satisfy the 400 EO's that trump made? How about the thousands seeking food, and going hungry, while your lesser gawds tremble at the sound of trumps rantings?
Showing up cowards like you for their lies, and delusions, brings a song to my heart.
But you dont have any proof for that, its simply not true.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
One of the prerequisites for forgiveness is repentance, and your gawd says he does not believe in repentance, or that he has done anything wrong. Adultery, lying, stealing, etc., are all acceptable in trumps world. How about yours?
b. All those promises of prison / sentencing reforms... well, President Trump (libs hate that), actually DID something. But, that's not what Andrew Weissmann wants, no sir, he's a typical Democrat, who would gladly twist the law and make being a Conservative a punishable offense. The guy is sick in the head.
If that were true he would be opening all of the doors, not just those for his supporters, and cronies. And then you follow that up with a lie as is typical for your kind of "christian". Amnesty International, and others, have a list of names of those in prison who have been placed there falsely, mostly Black, for decades. Maybe their skin color has something to do with it.
Delusional I see. How many must die before you understand that your "freedom" comes at a cost that few can afford? And not just from covid, but from the immigrants that were turned away in violation of our laws, just to satisfy the 400 EO's that trump made? How about the thousands seeking food, and going hungry, while your lesser gawds tremble at the sound of trumps rantings?
Showing up cowards like you for their lies, and delusions, brings a song to my heart.
AHAHAHAHA this fool thinks more than 9000 have died from covid! Ya ok and the world is flat and the moon landing never happened and trump colluded with russia, the left loves a good conspiracy theory, LOL
Quote from: T Hunt on December 26, 2020, 11:48:39 AM
But you dont have any proof for that, its simply not true.
Oh ye of little faith, and knowledge:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-god-i-dont-like-to-have-to-ask-for-forgiveness-2016-1
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 12:27:55 PM
Oh ye of little faith, and knowledge:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-god-i-dont-like-to-have-to-ask-for-forgiveness-2016-1
AHAHHA you think I didnt remember that when I said you didnt have proof? Sorry but its still true. You still have not proven that those things are acceptable in trumps world. You dont seem to understand what acceptable means, you dont seem to understand what proof means, but you can be forgiven for that since you are very religiously illiterate. Once again your TDS conducts mental gymnastics to try to validate your world view and once again it fails. Keep trying.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 26, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
One of the prerequisites for forgiveness is repentance, and your gawd says he does not believe in repentance, or that he has done anything wrong. Adultery, lying, stealing, etc., are all acceptable in trumps world. How about yours?
b. All those promises of prison / sentencing reforms... well, President Trump (libs hate that), actually DID something. But, that's not what Andrew Weissmann wants, no sir, he's a typical Democrat, who would gladly twist the law and make being a Conservative a punishable offense. The guy is sick in the head.
If that were true he would be opening all of the doors, not just those for his supporters, and cronies. And then you follow that up with a lie as is typical for your kind of "christian". Amnesty International, and others, have a list of names of those in prison who have been placed there falsely, mostly Black, for decades. Maybe their skin color has something to do with it.
Delusional I see. How many must die before you understand that your "freedom" comes at a cost that few can afford? And not just from covid, but from the immigrants that were turned away in violation of our laws, just to satisfy the 400 EO's that trump made? How about the thousands seeking food, and going hungry, while your lesser gawds tremble at the sound of trumps rantings?
Showing up cowards like you for their lies, and delusions, brings a song to my heart.
You are not God, and since all judgment belongs to Jesus Christ, you error in holding onto another person's sin - which has absolutely nothing to do with you. Baby Christians and unbelievers show their non-Biblical bias - taking up another's offense, of which there is no payment ever afforded.
The implication that you're making, "Trump is GOD!" we all patently reject, but it's worse than that for you, it's
PRESIDENT Donald Trump (libs hate that). Like a broken record, skipping back to the same track, over and over - constantly trying to insult rather than thoughtfully & reasonably engage... have you considered opening a Bible & reading it? You can find free audio versions online. I can attest, you can listen to the entire New Testament in about 1100 miles of driving, for me, that's about 50-60 times a year. That and honesty with God, is the best advice I can give anyone. But, all you've had is insults & hatred.
Donald Trump, the PRESIDENT can pardon anyone he wants, good for him! As if those pardons didn't matter, go ask anyone who has suddenly been let free from Prison! It sure made a difference to each one of them! And the sentencing reform PRESIDENT Trump implemented, will make a difference - just as Van Jones said, heaping praises on PRESIDENT Trump for finally doing something, though his own party (communist-democrat) promised, but failed to deliver.
BTW... be careful, only a fool mistakes humility as cowardice. Talk is cheap.
Quote from: Hoofer on December 27, 2020, 05:47:15 AM
You are not God, and since all judgment belongs to Jesus Christ,
Never claimed to be. That is your gawd who thinks he is. However, if you have ever read the Bible, and I seriously doubt you have, have you not read where Paul teaches that we will judge the angels? Have you not read where Paul judged the Corinthian Church before he had even been there? How about the scripture that says confess your sins one to another?
Your ignorance of the topis=c is once again noted.
QuoteThe implication that you're making, "Trump is GOD!"
trump once said he could go onto 5th. Ave., shoot someone, and people would still follow him. Same is true of the comments of the anti-Christ in the Book of Revelation. However, again in your emotional defense of a lying pervert, I have never referred to trump as "god", but as a "gawd". Surely one with your "biblical knowledge" can tell the difference, and not be confused with the episode of Elijah, and Baal.
QuoteBTW... be careful, only a fool mistakes humility as cowardice. Talk is cheap.
Again you show your lack of knowledge. When a person lies to avoids military duty that is cowardice. It was true of Clinton as well as trump, Gingrich, Romney, and a host of others you bend the knee before.
And your "talk" can be found in any cheap conspiracy website.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 27, 2020, 02:01:51 PM
Never claimed to be. That is your gawd who thinks he is. However, if you have ever read the Bible, and I seriously doubt you have, have you not read where Paul teaches that we will judge the angels? Have you not read where Paul judged the Corinthian Church before he had even been there? How about the scripture that says confess your sins one to another?
So you have never actually read any of those parts? Just listened to some atheist try to misuse them? There is nothing there saying we get to judge anything in this life. What it does say is that we get to repeat Gods judgments which he make very clearly known in the Bible. Hoofer is still right.
QuoteYour ignorance of the topis=c is once again noted.
Yes your ignorance is noted once again.
Quotetrump once said he could go onto 5th. Ave., shoot someone, and people would still follow him. Same is true of the comments of the anti-Christ in the Book of Revelation. However, again in your emotional defense of a lying pervert, I have never referred to trump as "god", but as a "gawd". Surely one with your "biblical knowledge" can tell the difference, and not be confused with the episode of Elijah, and Baal.
AHAHAHAHA so now you think there is anything in revelations like trumps joke about shooting someone? Wow he really triggers your TDS, huh? No one ever said trump is God and meant it, but he is clearly Gods chosen champion to destroy the religion of atheism that has infested our government.
QuoteAgain you show your lack of knowledge. When a person lies to avoids military duty that is cowardice. It was true of Clinton as well as trump, Gingrich, Romney, and a host of others you bend the knee before.
But why cant you prove trump lied to get out of service? Thats an easily debunked bit of fake news, lol
QuoteAnd your "talk" can be found in any cheap conspiracy website.
So you think this is a cheap conspiracy website?
Stumbled across this, GMTA on the topic of "Forgiveness" - Trump understands, the Dems just want unrelenting hatred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrER-5vXzxo
Quote from: T Hunt on December 28, 2020, 06:04:52 AM
So you have never actually read any of those parts? Just listened to some atheist try to misuse them? There is nothing there saying we get to judge anything in this life. What it does say is that we get to repeat Gods judgments which he make very clearly known in the Bible. Hoofer is still right.
Yes your ignorance is noted once again.
So tell me fool, just where do YOU get the authority to judge others? Our judgment of men is according to outward traits ( wealth, social etiquette, health, intellect, influence, eloquence, pedigree, and beauty). God judges the heart. Mans judgment is self-centered. We accept people who will increase our ego's with praise. We ignore those who will not increase it.
Since you have obviously never read the Bible your asinine foolishness is again recognized for the trash it is.
QuoteAHAHAHAHA so now you think there is anything in revelations like trumps joke about shooting someone? Wow he really triggers your TDS, huh?
Wasn't a joke at the time he said it. And fools like your prove him to be right.
QuoteNo one ever said trump is God and meant it, but he is clearly Gods chosen champion to destroy the religion of atheism that has infested our government.Quote
Show me any scripture where God says to select a lying, adulterous, cowardly, thief, as His chosen leader. But since you have never read the Bible you are unaware of scripture such as that found in Psalms 5:4-12, Deuteronomy 16:18-20, or even Exodus 18: 19-22. That is Gods way, not mans. Christ was a chosen one, not trump.
QuoteBut why cant you prove trump lied to get out of service? Thats an easily debunked bit of fake news,
Only for the benefit of liars, and fools, as you have proven yourself to be.
QuoteSo you think this is a cheap conspiracy website?
Based on your reliance on conspiracy websites such as Q-Anon, PragerU, Newsmax, Breitbart 1ANN,? Definitely.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 27, 2020, 02:01:51 PM
Never claimed to be. That is your gawd who thinks he is. However, if you have ever read the Bible, and I seriously doubt you have, have you not read where Paul teaches that we will judge the angels? Have you not read where Paul judged the Corinthian Church before he had even been there? How about the scripture that says confess your sins one to another?
Your ignorance of the topis=c is once again noted.
In the Corinthian context, Paul admonished the church to cast out the wicked person, committing sin practically unheard of among the non-Christians - but in the second letter calls on the same church for restoration of the repentant. 2 Corinthians 2:10 "
To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; 11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." Paul SAID he was not the lord over their faith (2 Corinthians 1:24), again, the greater context was missed.
Matthew 7:1 "
Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Note: You are neither Jesus, nor Paul, and have no authority pass judgement on anyone. But, the warning is, by your own measurement, methods, you pass judgment,
you will be judged. Peter asked Jesus how many TIMES should he forgive a repentant sinner, Jesus replied, 70x7 times! Problem is,
Trump has not sinned against you! Democrats & Liberals cannot find forgiveness, mercy or the LOVE in 1 Corinthians 13.
Quote
trump once said he could go onto 5th. Ave., shoot someone, and people would still follow him. Same is true of the comments of the anti-Christ in the Book of Revelation. However, again in your emotional defense of a lying pervert, I have never referred to trump as "god", but as a "gawd". Surely one with your "biblical knowledge" can tell the difference, and not be confused with the episode of Elijah, and Baal.
You're mistaking Biblical doctrine - for emotion - like a Democrat would. I'll trust a "lying pervert", even a "murder" (Apostle Paul),
who have repented, over someone who suggests they have authority to judge sin, when a. the sin was not committed against him (Trump owes you *nothing*), b. The Beatles said they were more popular than Jesus Christ (..and I knew they were joking, just as Trump joked about shooting someone) c. I understand your insult of "god" vs "gawd" -
as you intended. Fact of the matter remains, unless someone sins against you personally, they owe you no debt of reconciliation, repentance, which in the context of the church at Corinth, the sin was not against Paul - just as any sin Trump committed is not against you. But, it is a sin to "bear false witness against your neighbor", to accuse them of something they are already forgiven ...
devils routinely would do that. Ie., the accuser of the Brethren, day & night... (sounds so Democrat, to me.)
Quote
Again you show your lack of knowledge. When a person lies to avoids military duty that is cowardice. It was true of Clinton as well as trump, Gingrich, Romney, and a host of others you bend the knee before.
And your "talk" can be found in any cheap conspiracy website.
Wisdom is the practical application of knowledge - Happy is a forgiven man knows his former debtor all too well, but an unforgiven man is forever in the chains of bitterness, depression & hatred.
I left the political party of division, bitterness, hatred, big government - which you are representing quite well.
Quote from: Hoofer on December 29, 2020, 04:45:11 PM
In the Corinthian context, Paul admonished the church to cast out the wicked person, committing sin practically unheard of among the non-Christians - but in the second letter calls on the same church for restoration of the repentant. 2 Corinthians 2:10 "To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; 11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." Paul SAID he was not the lord over their faith (2 Corinthians 1:24), again, the greater context was missed.
Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
Note: You are neither Jesus, nor Paul, and have no authority pass judgement on anyone. But, the warning is, by your own measurement, methods, you pass judgment, you will be judged. Peter asked Jesus how many TIMES should he forgive a repentant sinner, Jesus replied, 70x7 times! Problem is, Trump has not sinned against you! Democrats & Liberals cannot find forgiveness, mercy or the LOVE in 1 Corinthians 13.
Several fallacies in your rant of ignorance:
1. Who in the Church at Corinth had sinned against Paul?
2. There is a requirement before forgiveness will/can be given by God, or anyone else. Please show where trump, or you for that matter, has ever repented of their sins?
3. Who are you to judge me, Democrats, or liberals? Are you now God?
4. In your world are the Ten Commandments of any value?
5. And now we come to the biggest fallacy of all, your own hypocrisy. It is relevant of your kind to judge all others, and like in virtually every topic you endeavor that too is filled with the words of a hypocrite. You say not to judge, yet all you do is judge others. You claim that others hate, yet it is you that shows hate. You accuse others of crimes yet it is you master that has been convicted of crimes (fraud is a crime) even if only in a civil court. And I will not get into the lies that you perpetrate, and support in others. God did not choose trump, fools like you did just as the Israelites chose Saul in 1Samuel 12: 13-24, and be aware of the warnings from God. God did choose David, however, that was before David turned wicked (1Samuel ; 16), and punished him, and the nation of Israel, for that wickedness. They were warned just as your kind were. and they rejected God just as your kind has. And now America is paying for your deeds (1Samuel 8)
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 29, 2020, 08:33:41 PM
Several fallacies in your rant of ignorance:
1. Who in the Church at Corinth had sinned against Paul?
2. There is a requirement before forgiveness will/can be given by God, or anyone else. Please show where trump, or you for that matter, has ever repented of their sins?
3. Who are you to judge me, Democrats, or liberals? Are you now God?
4. In your world are the Ten Commandments of any value?
5. And now we come to the biggest fallacy of all, your own hypocrisy. It is relevant of your kind to judge all others, and like in virtually every topic you endeavor that too is filled with the words of a hypocrite. You say not to judge, yet all you do is judge others. You claim that others hate, yet it is you that shows hate. You accuse others of crimes yet it is you master that has been convicted of crimes (fraud is a crime) even if only in a civil court. And I will not get into the lies that you perpetrate, and support in others. God did not choose trump, fools like you did just as the Israelites chose Saul in 1Samuel 12: 13-24, and be aware of the warnings from God. God did choose David, however, that was before David turned wicked (1Samuel ; 16), and punished him, and the nation of Israel, for that wickedness. They were warned just as your kind were. and they rejected God just as your kind has. And now America is paying for your deeds (1Samuel 8)
The world judged you fascists decades ago.....
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 29, 2020, 08:33:41 PM
Several fallacies in your rant of ignorance:
Still avoiding me I see.... Unless you address my queries over the last week, you're going to get a timeout troll!
Your being gone is no sweat off my nuts, and most will probably be glad to see you gone, so address them in real debate form or say goodnight, this is not a request!!!!
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 29, 2020, 08:33:41 PM
Several fallacies in your rant of ignorance:
1. Who in the Church at Corinth had sinned against Paul?
nobody, which is why Paul was ADVISING them - read the context.
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2. There is a requirement before forgiveness will/can be given by God, or anyone else. Please show where trump, or you for that matter, has ever repented of their sins?
Donald Trump did NOT sin against you, did he? Prove that he did. He does not need to ask forgiveness of someone where there is no sin-debt. Which betrays your lack of understanding of SIN in general.
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3. Who are you to judge me, Democrats, or liberals? Are you now God?
If you realized the error of your statements - you'd leave this theology of hatred & unforgiveness, call it what it is, and repent of foolish thinking. If you judged yourself, you would not be judged, but the *same* judgement you use on others, will be met out to you - deal with it now, or face the One who will deal with you, absent of the mercy you failed to show others.
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4. In your world are the Ten Commandments of any value?
Absolutely, Jesus came to FULFILL the Law of Moses, called it our schoolmaster - and brought it to the logical conclusion for believers, the Law of LOVE, the New Testament / Covenant. 1 Corinthians 13. 1 John 3. Grow up, learn to live, enjoy the freedom there is in Jesus Christ!
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5. And now we come to the biggest fallacy of all, your own hypocrisy. It is relevant of your kind to judge all others, and like in virtually every topic you endeavor that too is filled with the words of a hypocrite. You say not to judge, yet all you do is judge others. You claim that others hate, yet it is you that shows hate. You accuse others of crimes yet it is you master that has been convicted of crimes (fraud is a crime) even if only in a civil court. And I will not get into the lies that you perpetrate, and support in others. God did not choose trump, fools like you did just as the Israelites chose Saul in 1Samuel 12: 13-24, and be aware of the warnings from God. God did choose David, however, that was before David turned wicked (1Samuel ; 16), and punished him, and the nation of Israel, for that wickedness. They were warned just as your kind were. and they rejected God just as your kind has. And now America is paying for your deeds (1Samuel 8)
You error, as
the heart of the king is in the hands of the Lord. God raises up whomever He chooses for whatever purpose He chooses - don't fool yourself, there has never, ever risen a leader in the world - apart from the will of God. Was not Pharo risen up by God for a specific purpose? God "hardened" Pharo's heart, Pharo did as God said he would, just as the false prophet blessed Israel instead of cursed Israel.
Your warning is also clear:
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.I suggest you READ and meditate on the entire Epistle of 1st John.Andrew Wissmann is lacking any kind of mercy, grace & forgiveness. He'll continue to be "the accuser of the brethren", and hunt the Trump family (and associates) until he himself is expired. What a contrast, between President Donald Trump (libs hate that) who finally brought about sentencing reform, and Liberal Democrats who twist every LAW and STATEMENT of this Administration to inflict harm on anyone who even suggests President Trump (libs hate that) is an "OK" fellow!? The press is replete with statements from President Trump (libs hate that) haters, saying if you served in his administration, you should never be employable again! WHEN did we hear that kind of language out of even so much as a "never-Trumper"?
Democrats hate, divide, accuse, seek to steal the wealth of the middle class, stifle small businesses, use regulation as a weapon to kill competition.
Conservatives love regardless of race, color or creed, and strive for equal opportunities for every American, expanding the wealth, growing the economy, rewarding self-employment & small businesses.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 29, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
So tell me fool, just where do YOU get the authority to judge others? Our judgment of men is according to outward traits ( wealth, social etiquette, health, intellect, influence, eloquence, pedigree, and beauty). God judges the heart. Mans judgment is self-centered. We accept people who will increase our ego's with praise. We ignore those who will not increase it.
God gives us the right to inform others of his judgments which he makes clear in the bible. Your atheist religion is keeping you from understanding.
QuoteSince you have obviously never read the Bible your asinine foolishness is again recognized for the trash it is.
But you are the one misrepresenting it. Seems your college prof didnt read it much himself.
QuoteWasn't a joke at the time he said it. And fools like your prove him to be right.
Oh yes, it was absolutely a joke at the time he said it and still today. Some things never change.
QuoteShow me any scripture where God says to select a lying, adulterous, cowardly, thief, as His chosen leader. But since you have never read the Bible you are unaware of scripture such as that found in Psalms 5:4-12, Deuteronomy 16:18-20, or even Exodus 18: 19-22. That is Gods way, not mans. Christ was a chosen one, not trump.
God chooses all types to represent him. Look at abram and his sister. Look at Zechius (didnt spell that right). Look at the king of Assyria, whom God used to punish his enemies. He wld often use the enemies of Israel to punish them. If God can choose the worst pagans and sinners to do his work, he can choose a saint like trump as well.
QuoteOnly for the benefit of liars, and fools, as you have proven yourself to be.
So you have no evidence or proof trump lied to get out of service. Thanks for confirming.
QuoteBased on your reliance on conspiracy websites such as Q-Anon, PragerU, Newsmax, Breitbart 1ANN,? Definitely.
But why cant you show a single conspiracy theory posted by them the way we can show the conspiracy theory of russian collusion was pushed by leftist MSM?
Quote from: T Hunt on December 30, 2020, 09:12:40 AM
God chooses all types to represent him. Look at abram and his sister. Look at Zechius (didnt spell that right). Look at the king of Assyria, whom God used to punish his enemies. He wld often use the enemies of Israel to punish them. If God can choose the worst pagans and sinners to do his work, he can choose a saint like trump as well.
Thank you - great clarification!
Genesis 50:19And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God? 20But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
This is AFTER Joseph's brothers threw him down a well, and he was sold into slavery to Egypt, where he was FRAMED and thrown into prison, FORGOTTEN and finally made 2nd in command of all Pharo's land. Joseph had every reason to carry a grudge, but FORGAVE those who sinned against HIM (Joseph is considered a "type" or "example" of Christ's character). But, what business is it of OURS what citizen Donald did in his personal life decades ago? He certainly acts like a man who has found God's mercy and forgiveness - showing that which he experienced.
Why would anyone want to be associated with a Political Party that holds onto WRONGs (like slavery), causes division (like Obama, who called for punishing enemies and rewarding friends - AMERICANS), endorses & encourages violence (Maxine Waters), and the vitriol / hatred of Chuck Schumer & Nancy Pelosi? And now we have Andrew Wissmann calling for punishing President Trump (libs hate that) & associates AFTER they leave office...? These people are SICK! Bitter, depressing to listen to, lack vision & hope for a better future. Trump is not god, but compared to Obama, President Trump (libs hate that) is a HUGE step in the right direction!
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2020, 04:43:30 AM
Still avoiding me I see.... Unless you address my queries over the last week, you're going to get a timeout troll!
Your being gone is no sweat off my nuts, and most will probably be glad to see you gone, so address them in real debate form or say goodnight, this is not a request!!!!
Like the posts from another one of you kiss ass punks, and cowards, like Owebo? Sorry pig f**ker but it is not up to you to decide what I respond to especially when it comes from liars, and cowards. And this is not a bend over like you are used to.
Quote from: Hoofer on December 30, 2020, 05:31:27 AM
nobody, which is why Paul was ADVISING them - read the context.Donald Trump did NOT sin against you, did he? Prove that he did. He does not need to ask forgiveness of someone where there is no sin-debt. Which betrays your lack of understanding of SIN in general.If you realized the error of your statements - you'd leave this theology of hatred & unforgiveness, call it what it is, and repent of foolish thinking. If you judged yourself, you would not be judged, but the *same* judgement you use on others, will be met out to you - deal with it now, or face the One who will deal with you, absent of the mercy you failed to show others.Absolutely, Jesus came to FULFILL the Law of Moses, called it our schoolmaster - and brought it to the logical conclusion for believers, the Law of LOVE, the New Testament / Covenant. 1 Corinthians 13. 1 John 3. Grow up, learn to live, enjoy the freedom there is in Jesus Christ!You error, as the heart of the king is in the hands of the Lord. God raises up whomever He chooses for whatever purpose He chooses - don't fool yourself, there has never, ever risen a leader in the world - apart from the will of God. Was not Pharo risen up by God for a specific purpose? God "hardened" Pharo's heart, Pharo did as God said he would, just as the false prophet blessed Israel instead of cursed Israel.
Your warning is also clear: 1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
I suggest you READ and meditate on the entire Epistle of 1st John.
Andrew Wissmann is lacking any kind of mercy, grace & forgiveness. He'll continue to be "the accuser of the brethren", and hunt the Trump family (and associates) until he himself is expired. What a contrast, between President Donald Trump (libs hate that) who finally brought about sentencing reform, and Liberal Democrats who twist every LAW and STATEMENT of this Administration to inflict harm on anyone who even suggests President Trump (libs hate that) is an "OK" fellow!? The press is replete with statements from President Trump (libs hate that) haters, saying if you served in his administration, you should never be employable again! WHEN did we hear that kind of language out of even so much as a "never-Trumper"?
Democrats hate, divide, accuse, seek to steal the wealth of the middle class, stifle small businesses, use regulation as a weapon to kill competition.
Conservatives love regardless of race, color or creed, and strive for equal opportunities for every American, expanding the wealth, growing the economy, rewarding self-employment & small businesses.
All of these lies, and bull shit, just to kiss the ring of one man. Amazing.
Quote from: Old Trapper on December 30, 2020, 11:51:18 AM
Like the posts from another one of you kiss ass punks, and cowards, like Owebo? Sorry pig f**ker but it is not up to you to decide what I respond to especially when it comes from liars, and cowards. And this is not a bend over like you are used to.
So you just proved my point that not only are you a coward incapable of real debate, but by running away, you just lost another debate.
So here's the thing, since you're unwilling to engage in actual debate, I see no reason you should be allowed to post here.
I'll have Walks give you a couple of weeks off to think about it and if, and when you return, if you still run from debating, you're gone!
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2020, 01:16:37 PM
So you just proved my point that not only are you a coward incapable of real debate, but by running away, you just lost another debate.
So here's the thing, since you're unwilling to engage in actual debate, I see no reason you should be allowed to post here.
I'll have Walks give you a couple of weeks off to think about it and if, and when you return, if you still run from debating, you're gone!
Old Trapper is on a two week timeout. It may help him in his debating skills. :rolleyes:
Quote from: walkstall on December 30, 2020, 05:15:46 PM
Old Trapper is on a two week timeout. It may help him in his debating skills. :rolleyes:
So now modern science can undo lobotomies? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2020, 05:31:40 PM
So now modern science can undo lobotomies? :lol: :lol: :lol:
No. But I have set the ground work if he can stay or not.
Quote from: Solar on December 30, 2020, 05:31:40 PM
So now modern science can undo lobotomies? :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: