An Apology to Any and All

Started by Darth Fife, November 07, 2014, 08:27:47 PM

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Solar

Quote from: Michelle on November 13, 2014, 09:07:32 AM
Nahhh... there are a ton of Gods out there.  Matter of fact,there is a God for each theist looking in a mirror every morning.  Their God is the *only* God, there is only one God and it is their God.  Their God just happens to have a similar take on the bible as the person looking in the mirror.  Or, in the case of someone such as a Hindu - Gods.  But it all comes down to one simple fact.  There is no proof of any of these Gods.  Not one of them.  If there was, theists wouldn't need faith.  They'd have facts instead.  What one believes is not a fact, what one can prove is a fact.

There isn't a thing in the world wrong with faith in a God.  Nothing, nada, zilch.  It's mighty A-ok with me if someone wants to believe in a God.  Just don't call it fact because it "feels" so real or better yet, because one can't admit they just plain don't know the answer to a question.

People used to believe Ra the Sun God pulled the sun around the earth in his chariot each day.  Then science came along and explained how it works and suddenly, a God didn't do THAT but he does everything else.   :laugh:  And the list goes on what a God did until science explained how it really works.

There are some questions I just don't know the answer.  I have no problem saying.. I dunno.  But I can't create a God to answer everything I don't know.
The term God is merely a metaphor for a power bigger than life.
What or how one sees God is a personal thing, whether as a super man, or an unexplained force is irrelevant, what's important is that for the believer, it can be a source for answers to life one has no control over.

For my take on God, read #28  and #31.
It's a fact I would not be as happy and content had it not been for God.
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Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
The term God is merely a metaphor for a power bigger than life.
What or how one sees God is a personal thing, whether as a super man, or an unexplained force is irrelevant, what's important is that for the believer, it can be a source for answers to life one has no control over.

For my take on God, read #28  and #31.
It's a fact I would not be as happy and content had it not been for God.

I am glad that my Dad was Christian because for him it was a huge source of comfort when he was dying.  It was his strength and for him I was content that he had that comfort.

One issue I will never forgive... one of my sisters told my Dad I was atheist.  She told him on his death bed.  He didn't need that worry.  If I would have wanted him to know *I* would have told him.  That just wasn't the time or place for the final one upsmanship.  I just never felt there was value in his worrying or fretting over it so I never told him.  It's just such a non issue for me.

But, the point is that his faith gave him a great deal of peace in the end.  That's a good thing.

Darth Fife

Quote from: Skeptic on November 09, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
I have had Jehovah Witnesses knock on my door 5 times this year and try to waste my time with their pamphlets and with readings from their bible. The last time I finally got so fed up that I told the guy trying to hand me a pamphlet to wait while I go get a copy of the Satanic Bible to hand to him so we can exchange ideas and I can talk to him about the wonders Satan can do for him. I've never seen anyone run away so fast. Naturally I don't really have any satanic literature since I believe that's also science fiction, but I thought I'd be worth the the try to see if I could finally scare them into leaving me alone. It has worked so far. They haven't knocked on my door for the last 2 months.  :thumbup:

You're kidding?

I've lived in the heart of Utah for the past 15 or so years and in all of that time, I've only had an LDS missionary ask to talk to me once!

Darth

Michelle

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 15, 2014, 03:57:05 PM
You're kidding?

I've lived in the heart of Utah for the past 15 or so years and in all of that time, I've only had an LDS missionary ask to talk to me once!

Darth

Shoot, I get them in MEXICO!  I thought I had it all figured out, I told them I speak no Spanish at all.  No problem, the next day they sent an English speaking Missionary over.

I don't answer anymore.

Solar

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 15, 2014, 03:57:05 PM
You're kidding?

I've lived in the heart of Utah for the past 15 or so years and in all of that time, I've only had an LDS missionary ask to talk to me once!

Darth
For such evil religious zealots,(according to libs), :rolleyes:
LDS missionaries are the only ones I'd let in my house.
I may not agree with their religion in anyway, but of all the Mormons I've known, not one of them ever did me wrong in anyway, and were always willing to help out.
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Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
For such evil religious zealots,(according to libs), :rolleyes:
LDS missionaries are the only ones I'd let in my house.
I may not agree with their religion in anyway, but of all the Mormons I've known, not one of them ever did me wrong in anyway, and were always willing to help out.

They're one of those religions where if you need some help or shit done, they will help.  I watched one documentary where they helped a town hit by a tornado just start building back up.  It was amazing.
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Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
For such evil religious zealots,(according to libs), :rolleyes:
LDS missionaries are the only ones I'd let in my house.
I may not agree with their religion in anyway, but of all the Mormons I've known, not one of them ever did me wrong in anyway, and were always willing to help out.

Hmmm... who has referred to them as "evil," Solar?  Or are you making up stuff again?

I don't let them in my house because #1)  I don't have time for them and #2) I don't make it a practice of inviting people in my home who I do not know.

I have a hunch you don't either.

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Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 04:34:37 PM
Hmmm... who has referred to them as "evil," Solar?  Or are you making up stuff again?

I don't let them in my house because #1)  I don't have time for them and #2) I don't make it a practice of inviting people in my home who I do not know.

I have a hunch you don't either.

Are you OK?
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Solar

Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 04:34:37 PM
Hmmm... who has referred to them as "evil," Solar?  Or are you making up stuff again?
I make an innocuous statement about libs, and you magically bite?
As I suspected, though I understand being angry after voting for Obola, and being lied to by the Marxists, I'd be a bit touchy as well. :biggrin:
"For such evil religious zealots,(according to libs)"

QuoteI don't let them in my house because #1)  I don't have time for them and #2) I don't make it a practice of inviting people in my home who I do not know.

I have a hunch you don't either.
And you'd be wrong, we talked for a bit, gave them a snack, they helped me do some genealogy on the family tree, because they have an excellent database they've put together.
Had a great time, and I invited them back anytime, but they declined, said they had a busy schedule.

6But you'd never realize such a thing, being an open minded individual, and all. :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Solar on November 16, 2014, 04:31:26 PM
If you were a lib right now, would you be? :lol:

I'd be in heaven right now!  Literally.
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Quote from: Darth Fife on November 07, 2014, 08:27:47 PM
As an Atheist, I've had some spirited debates with members here about religion and faith. While I always tried to do so civilly, in the heat of the discussion, I may have said somethings that were unkind, and hurtful. If I did so, or anyone took my posts that way, I apologize.

Also...

I have cast aside my non-belief, and while I don't consider myself a traditional Christian, I do believe in a high power that is capable of interacting with us mere mortals. It's a new journey for me, and I'm not sure where I am being led, but, as in the past, I only seek the Truth.

Darth
So Darth, what happened that you came to reconsider?
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Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
I find it odd, that someone can have faith in nothing at all. :biggrin:

Reminds me of Obama voters.

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Quote from: Skeptic on November 09, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
I have had Jehovah Witnesses knock on my door 5 times this year and try to waste my time with their pamphlets and with readings from their bible. The last time I finally got so fed up that I told the guy trying to hand me a pamphlet to wait while I go get a copy of the Satanic Bible to hand to him so we can exchange ideas and I can talk to him about the wonders Satan can do for him. I've never seen anyone run away so fast. Naturally I don't really have any satanic literature since I believe that's also science fiction, but I thought I'd be worth the the try to see if I could finally scare them into leaving me alone. It has worked so far. They haven't knocked on my door for the last 2 months.  :thumbup:
You must live somewhat near a Kingdom Hall. Witnesses are supposed to visit every home in their Kingdom Hall's territory at least once a year. Five times with nearly two months left in the year may mean that your home is near a Kingdom Hall, making your neighborhood a sort of training ground for new witnesses. They do keep records of calls and results, so your Satanic Bible routine probably got your house designated, "Don't visit." I believe they also use public records to keep track of home sales, so they'll know when it's "safe" to visit your home again.

I'm not a witness, nor a former witness, I just know somewhat of how they go about their business.
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Those who know, teach.
Ignorant incapables, regulate.

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One of my best friends is a Jehovah Witness, and I learned a few things about them:

1 - They REALLY study the Bible.
2 - There are a lot more of them than one would think.
3 - They are really good at keeping things within their network.  Any time I needed a good contractor for anything out of my realm, I'd just tell my friend, and he'd say "Oh, I got a guy... He'll call you in 10". 
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