Air Force dumps ‘so help me God’ from enlistment oath

[Michelle]

If you knew this, then you can clearly look at the URI and see where the error is.  Why go through the trouble of exposing a typo, when you yourself couldn't identify it?

Because I didn't think it was a typo but a bad link instead or my internet.

Please understand, Mexico just HAS to have the WORST internet service in the world.  I was merely pointing out that I couldn't go to the link.  I never inferred or claimed it was a typo or the error of another poster.

Regardless, it was a silly point anyway and not worth the time to google the story.  Some schools do indeed misinterpret the law.  That doesn't change the law, that means the school screwed up.    If every school does the same, yep... he would have had a point.  But they don't.

It's a bit like claiming Dr. Jones did something incredibly stupid thus the law is that what he did was legal and not med mal.  Show me the law that says kids cannot pray to themselves in school or reserve a room before/after school to have bible study or some other non-teacher led religious practice and we can discuss that.

[Michelle]

The greater majority of this conversation is ridiculous.

Atheists believe in God, Fido can be God, a couch can be God, atheists should lie in an oath to protect tradition, one school may have screwed up thus kids can't pray to themselves before a test, I have a hatred for religion, I am an idiot, I am stupid, I don't know what I am talking about, the US is based on Christianity, the US is a Christian nation but the church has nothing to do with govt ....

It's childish and irrational.

[taxed]

Because I didn't think it was a typo but a bad link instead or my internet.

You didn't think theblaze.comtheblaze.com was a typo?

[Michelle]

You didn't think theblaze.comtheblaze.com was a typo?

Nope.  Not at all because I didn't read the link.  I get error messages all day long.

I have already made it clear I do not blame the other poster for the error.  I'll take full responsibility for the error.  My fault, totally my fault.  I just assumed it was a bad link or my internet again.  I work and play on line at the same time.  I have already told you I don't blame the poster for the problem.

Got anything else to discuss?  Maybe something regarding the topic? 

///Edit to add:  My original point still stands about the link anyway.  Show me the law that says kids can't pray before a test or reserve a room for their own bible study groups if that is what they choose, please.///

[taxed]

Nope.  Not at all because I didn't read the link.  I get error messages all day long.

I have already made it clear I do not blame the other poster for the error.  I'll take full responsibility for the error.  My fault, totally my fault.  I just assumed it was a bad link or my internet again.  I work and play on line at the same time.  I have already told you I don't blame the poster for the problem.

Got anything else to discuss?  Maybe something regarding the topic? 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....... OK.

[Michelle]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....... OK.

I added an edit at the same time you were posting.  Whoops.

However, if that is the best rebuttal you have... Ok.

[taxed]

I added an edit at the same time you were posting.  Whoops.

However, if that is the best rebuttal you have... Ok.

I'm still waiting on your reply from my reply #40.  Is ignoring it the best rebuttal you have?

[Michelle]

I'm still waiting on your reply from my reply #40.  Is ignoring it the best rebuttal you have?

I did respond, post #41.

Does it matter if I think your opinions are the same as Solar?  Do I really need to go back and reread the thread so I can tell you if your opinions are the same?  Would that help you out?

[taxed]

I did respond, post #41.

That's not a reply to the points in my post.  It's a reply to say you need to go back and read, still not relevant to my post itself that asks if my points are interchangeable to the author in the first place.

Does it matter if I think your opinions are the same as Solar?

That was my question to you.  You got confused about the author, specifically regarding me saying I was an expert witness, which I'm not.  That has no relevance to the points I made in general, again, regardless of the author.  You know this, and are attempting to obfuscate by clinging onto your original confusion about other, even though that's not relevant to my points.

  Do I really need to go back and reread the thread so I can tell you if your opinions are the same?

I made my own points to you, however, you can reply to them, regardless of author.

  Would that help you out?

It would help me very much, thank you.

[Solar]

HAHAHAHA!  OMG!  You are amusing!  Now I see why someone in another thread writes what they do about you, it is quite accurate.

Then you're of like minds with a lib. Shock!

I never wrote anything to lead anyone to believe I have a blind hatred of religion.  I do have a serious dislike for being willingly ignorant, I fully admit I have a hatred for our prez, but religion?  Nope.  I'm not the one out there demanding Christians bake wedding cakes for gay folks, I support the Christians.  I signed petitions supporting pastors not turning over their sermon to an idiot politician.  I'm not the one out there demanding, "In God We Trust" be removed from money, I don't give a rats butt.

Yet your every post exudes disdain for religion, subtle or otherwise.
You come to a TEA forum, and all you've done is argue against the existence of God in the religion forum, and you expect us to buy that BS? Laughable, at best.

Being atheist does not mean a blind hate for religion.  Sorry, you'll have to try harder.   

Yet here you are chastising religion.

What is annoying me is you.  You don't like reality so you merely change the definitions of words.
Theist, atheist, God, any word that doesn't fit into your agenda and you just change the meaning of the word,

The dictionary is merely giving examples from various religions, God is not a religion, so your definition does not apply!

then stomp your feeties, ball up your fisties, stick out your lower lip and go on a slam fest.
Isn't that what Libs do?

You just clarified that point yourself. Thanks for playing.

I don't know that.  Of course, I never made the claim either.
Do you just have these debates in your head and you forget what is in your head vs. what people actually write?

I'll repeat, so read and absorb if you can.
Also, how do you know I adhere to the belief that God created the universe? Maybe a collective conscience of humanity played a part in it, maybe this collective thought of man is God? Point is, no one knows, but the fact that we're here is more than proof enough something created it, some unknown force, and for lack of a better description, the term God will suffice.

*I* provided the accurate dictionary definition of a God.  You made up your own definition so I merely provided you with the true definition.  I didn't claim you believe anything.  Well, other than incorrect meanings of words.

So now you're dictating my beliefs for me?

You know, Dude, I have to tell you.  You really don't behave as a rational adult.  You do behave as a troll.

What you fail to grasp, is that not everyone that believes in a higher power, adheres to a particular religion, and I'm one of those.

I tried to go to your link, I received this message:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/31/boy-suspended-for-bringing-bible-to-school-files-suit/

Did you take your meds today?  Seriously, do you have an anxiety disorder?
So pointing out how schools dealt with Christianity in the past is, in your mind insane?
And you wonder why I see ignorance in your posts?

Heh... I was addressing YOUR point where YOU claim the US is a Christian nation. 

"Was" a Christian nation, up until recently, but our culture and our laws are still based in Judeo Christian beliefs.

I'm new here.  Are you a troll?  Or just a troubled person?

Yes you are new, and for a noob, not a very bright troll, either.

[Skeptic]

Michelle, I honestly think a handful of the believers here (a very tiny minority though) think that forcing Christianity and Christian morality on others against their will, is good! However, an atheist merely saying "No thanks, not interested" is blind hatred of religion and proof of Christian persecution. Never underestimate the Christian persecution complex. Unfortunately I used to buy heavily into it when I was a believer.

[Michelle]

That's not a reply to the points in my post.  It's a reply to say you need to go back and read, still not relevant to my post itself that asks if my points are interchangeable to the author in the first place.

I understand and that is why I replied as I did.  In that post you wrote:

~~Would my points not be interchangeable with the other author?~~

I did not go back and read because I assumed you would know if your points were the same as Solar.  BTW, I am glad you are here to help him, he wasn't doing so well by himself.

I didn't refer to your points, the error you pointed out had to do with being an expert witness.

True.  When I went back to read the thread for you so I could let you know if your points are the same as Solar I see that it was Solar that claims to be the expert witness.

That was my question to you.  You got confused about the author, specifically regarding me saying I was an expert witness, which I'm not.  That has no relevance to the points I made in general, again, regardless of the author.  You know this, and are attempting to obfuscate by clinging onto your original confusion about other, even though that's not relevant to my points.

Okay, here you go.  Here are the points you made through post #40:

1) You gave permission for Skeptic to ignore the military oath.  (I'm sure he's much relieved now.)

2) You believe you'll win a debate with a lawyer on a discussion of law because you own a business and know a lot.

3) You wanted to know if Skeptic celebrates Christmas.

4) You outlined to me what you do not know but you still know a lot because you own a business.

Yep, I would say that you and Solar are on an even playing ground.

It would help me very much, thank you.

You are most welcome.

[taxed]

Michelle, I honestly think a handful of the believers here (a very tiny minority though) think that forcing Christianity and Christian morality on others against their will, is good! However, an atheist merely saying "No thanks, not interested" is blind hatred of religion and proof of Christian persecution. Never underestimate the Christian persecution complex. Unfortunately I used to buy heavily into it when I was a believer.

Who said that?

[Michelle]

Then you're of like minds with a lib. Shock!
Yet your every post exudes disdain for religion, subtle or otherwise.
You come to a TEA forum, and all you've done is argue against the existence of God in the religion forum, and you expect us to buy that BS? Laughable, at best.
Yet here you are chastising religion.

The dictionary is merely giving examples from various religions, God is not a religion, so your definition does not apply!

You just clarified that point yourself. Thanks for playing.
I'll repeat, so read and absorb if you can.
Also, how do you know I adhere to the belief that God created the universe? Maybe a collective conscience of humanity played a part in it, maybe this collective thought of man is God? Point is, no one knows, but the fact that we're here is more than proof enough something created it, some unknown force, and for lack of a better description, the term God will suffice.
So now you're dictating my beliefs for me?What you fail to grasp, is that not everyone that believes in a higher power, adheres to a particular religion, and I'm one of those.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/31/boy-suspended-for-bringing-bible-to-school-files-suit/

Did you take your meds today?  Seriously, do you have an anxiety disorder?
So pointing out how schools dealt with Christianity in the past is, in your mind insane?
And you wonder why I see ignorance in your posts?"Was" a Christian nation, up until recently, but our culture and our laws are still based in Judeo Christian beliefs.
Yes you are new, and for a noob, not a very bright troll, either.

Did you actually have a point for anyone to address?  Or just more feetie stomping, slams, and baseless accusations?

[taxed]

I understand and that is why I replied as I did.  In that post you wrote:

~~Would my points not be interchangeable with the other author?~~

I did not go back and read because I assumed you would know if your points were the same as Solar.

No you didn't.

BTW, I am glad you are here to help him, he wasn't doing so well by himself.

I read through the thread.  He was educating you just fine.

True.  When I went back to read the thread for you so I could let you know if your points are the same as Solar I see that it was Solar that claims to be the expert witness.

You didn't even know what you were reading.  Try again.

Okay, here you go.  Here are the points you made through post #40:

1) You gave permission for Skeptic to ignore the military oath.  (I'm sure he's much relieved now.)

Wrong.

2) You believe you'll win a debate with a lawyer on a discussion of law because you own a business and know a lot.

Wrong.

3) You wanted to know if Skeptic celebrates Christmas.

Correct.

4) You outlined to me what you do not know but you still know a lot because you own a business.

Wrong.

Yep, I would say that you and Solar are on an even playing ground.

You are most welcome.

1 out of 4.  You get an F.