This debuts in the U.S. on May 17, 2013, so the date at the end of this great trailer may sound wrong to you...but the rest looks every bit as good as anything coming out this year. Benjamin Cumberbach (Sherlock Holmes) as the villain, absolutely dazzling special effects...and Chris Pine settling in nicely as James T. Kirk.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/4866980/watch-first-tv-trailer-for-star-trek-before-takeaway.html

Excellent! Looks great.

I like how the new director and writers basicly pissed on Gene Roddenberry concept of Star Trek series.

The last Star Trek movie was pure glorification of war and that you can't reason with an evil enemy. I also liked how belligerent and aggressive the federation officers were, complete opposite of Gene Roddenberry original seris. I'm a TNG and Enterprise fan but I like the original series movies. Especially the Undiscovered Country is my favorite movie, coincidentally this is the movie Gene Roddenberry and Shatner hated the most. Shatner even cries in the behind the scenes interviews because he felt the movie was too black and white in addition to being violent.

Star Trek has gone from a hippie serie too a good old fashioned cowboy showdown type of movie/serie 

The Original Series was sold to the networks as a "Wagon Train to the Stars", but in reality was much more. It spoke of  a positive future where humans (at least) had overcome their insane need to kill millions of their fellow humans on a semi-regular basis. Like the original Twilight Zone series, it got around the prohibition of examining certain taboo subjects - sex, racism, war - by examining those subjects in the framework of starships and alien cultures in the distant future.

This is what science fiction does better than any other genre.

The world of Star Trek TOS was a positive world where you would actually want to live. The same cannot be said of the J.J. Abrams vision of Star Trek. If the Abrams future is what truly lies in store for the human race, we might as well just push the buttons, launch all the nukes and end it now!

I have seen every Star Trek movie on its opening day, until now. I won't be viewing Star Trek: Into Darkness until it comes out on video. IMHO there are two movies which should never be remade - Casablanca and The Wrath of Kahn.

-Darth

That future is entirely built upon the marxist perspective that human need to kill millions of fellow humans was due to lack of resources which is a fallacy and emprically incorrect when judging from historical/scientific data. In Star trek this future was possible with the invention of protein resequencer and ability to replicate nearly all forms of metal just through energy, this made "capitalism/market" nonexistent since everything could be instantly produced giving all humans instant good living standard eliminating all forms of poverty. Thereby eliminating war and violence.

History is more complex, humans kill each other for other reasons than material ones. Read "Father of us All" by Victor Davis Hanson if you dispute this.

This is why "The undiscovered Country" is so much enjoyable to me, it is not built upon a utopian fallacy.

Quote from: Mountainshield on May 22, 2013, 09:04:19 AM
That future is entirely built upon the marxist perspective that human need to kill millions of fellow humans was due to lack of resources which is a fallacy and emprically incorrect when judging from historical/scientific data. In Star trek this future was possible with the invention of protein resequencer and ability to replicate nearly all forms of metal just through energy, this made "capitalism/market" nonexistent since everything could be instantly produced giving all humans instant good living standard eliminating all forms of poverty. Thereby eliminating war and violence.

History is more complex, humans kill each other for other reasons than material ones. Read "Father of us All" by Victor Davis Hanson if you dispute this.

This is why "The undiscovered Country" is so much enjoyable to me, it is not built upon a utopian fallacy.

And I would suggest to you that you view the original series Star Trek episodes, "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", "A Taste of Armageddon" and "A Private Little War".

Peace or Utter Destruction

Is there ever a good reason to kill millions of people?

I'm sure you'll enjoy Ender's Game when it comes out in November...

-Darth