The Kyle Rittenhouse trial has proved what all patriots hae been suspecting for a long time: the Left wants us dead.  It's that simple.


If you try to protect businesses from violent rioters and looters ... and   they attack you ... you should just die.

When Aaron Jay Danielson was murdered by an AntiFa member in Porland, the Leftists there cheered.  Academics even posted essays justifying it.  Of course, there are decent people on the Left who do not do this, but they're not in charge anymore.  And probably the people who are nominally in charge aren't drooling for our demise, but they are unwilling to confront the radical activists who are now setting the agenda for them.

This is not a political argument over whether we should have a minimum wage or how high it should be, or whether the government should borrow more money to build a highway ... this is a war. Our side just doesn't realize it yet.

But the other side sees it that way, and "in war, the laws are silent".  You root for your own side, and look away when they commit crimes. You demonize the enemy, magnify his crimes, exaggerate his evils, and even invent some.  In war, truth is the first casuality.

We have to prepare.  Every serious patriot who does not own an AR15 or the  equivalent, should get one as soon as possible, plus the usual accessories ( a half dozen magazines, 2000 rounds of ammunition, etc).  That's going to cost a couple of thousand dollars, so if you don't have it, something is better than nothing, even a bolt-action single-shot .22.  [In fact, in some situations, a .22 or a shotgun is a better weapon than an AR15, because it gives you the option of inflicting less-than-fatal wounds on attackers, which it may be in your interests to do.]

Plus, you had better start preparing for a prolonged breakdown of the social/economic/legal order. If you and your family are able to live on your own provisions (food, toiletries, medicines,  etc) for a few months, you'll be in a much better position if and when such a situation comes.  And it's not really an expense, since you 'queue' your purchases and consume (now) from one end while from time to time replacing at the other. (First-in, first-out.)  Instead of spending several thousand dollars over two years, you spend it all now and consume over two years.  (Or, in practice, spend 10% more each time you shop and build up your stores.)

Note that in a real social collapse, you will be under moral pressure to help out less-provident friends and relatives and neighbors. So it's in your interests to get them to prepare now.

Finally, community defense -- both now -- when violent rioting and looting is effectively permitted by Democratic officials -- and in the future, requires organization.  Just having a bunch of men with rifles turn up at a spot being targeted by the criminals and the Left  is NOT enough. The defenders must have been previously organized into a disciplined group, with a chain of command, auxiliariy support teams (legal, intel, comms, transport, logistics), and have trained for all sorts of situations.

Once your group reaches a size of a few dozen members, with another hundred or two sympathyzers, you will have people with the skills you need: military, medical, engineering, communications.

If there had been such a group at Kenosha  -- instead of just a group of well-meaning patriots -- Kyle Rittenhouse could have been incorporated into it, and wouldn't have gotten mixed up with the human garbage they were there to defend against.  Similarly in Portland, where Aaron Danielson was murdered because he thought he could walk the streets safely amidst the Portland vermin.

Some people who seem to know what they're doing in this department are the USCPT.org -- contact them and see if they can help you. I only know them from the web and from email exhcanges and a couple of Zoom sessions, but they seem sensible. They're former Arizona Oathkeepers who are not making the mistakes the original Oathkeepers made.

Start acting now. No one knows the future, but we can be pretty sure it is going to be turbulent. Those who have prepared, and organized and trained with others, will be in a much better position to survive it.

The other very important lesson here is the fact that the false media is a tool of the left. Nothing from them but lies and propaganda i this case, they did their best to fan the flames of hate here. Let this be a lesson to them, there is no trial by Press.

"AR-15s and shotguns are the same thing, you guys!"

Lesson: Prepare to be disappointed at how many people really don't know that AR-15s and what encompasses a shotgun aren't the same thing at Thanksgiving dinner.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/qxsvuq/it_wasnt_just_a_gun_it_was_an_ar15_a_shotgun_able/

Quote from: RedTailHawk on November 20, 2021, 08:35:35 AM"AR-15s and shotguns are the same thing, you guys!"

Lesson: Prepare to be disappointed at how many people really don't know that AR-15s and what encompasses a shotgun aren't the same thing at Thanksgiving dinner.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/qxsvuq/it_wasnt_just_a_gun_it_was_an_ar15_a_shotgun_able/

You are correct that AR's and shotguns are not the same. The left intentionally misrepresents, misquotes and misrepresents ANYTHING that they think will allow them to disarm the public. If the Democrats have their way, there will be NO self defense, only dead victims of Democrats.

Quote from: RedTailHawk on November 20, 2021, 08:35:35 AM"AR-15s and shotguns are the same thing, you guys!"

Lesson: Prepare to be disappointed at how many people really don't know that AR-15s and what encompasses a shotgun aren't the same thing at Thanksgiving dinner.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/qxsvuq/it_wasnt_just_a_gun_it_was_an_ar15_a_shotgun_able/

Not at my thanksgiving dinner!           

What we need and I agree with the writer Victoria Taft of "We Need 'Kyle's Law' to Put DA's on the Hook for Lying to Create Political Show Trials".

There was so many lies, make believes, and what ifs to try and convict Kyle Rittenhouse of his basic fundamental right to self defend against career criminals.....what better name to call if than "Kyle's Law".......

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/11/23/we-need-kyles-law-to-put-das-on-the-hook-for-lying-to-create-political-show-trials-n1535479

Quote from: Bronx on November 26, 2021, 09:01:02 AMWhat we need and I agree with the writer Victoria Taft of "We Need 'Kyle's Law' to Put DA's on the Hook for Lying to Create Political Show Trials".

There was so many lies, make believes, and what ifs to try and convict Kyle Rittenhouse of his basic fundamental right to self defend against career criminals.....what better name to call if than "Kyle's Law".......

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/11/23/we-need-kyles-law-to-put-das-on-the-hook-for-lying-to-create-political-show-trials-n1535479

Do we really need such laws?  Apparently so. It seems that prosecutorial misconduct is such nowadays that it might be necessary to affirm the right of self defense to prevent railroading of those faced with the choice of defense of their person or getting killed or injured. IMHO It should be a federal law as based upon the right to "Life Liberty ad Persuit of Happiness" as well as the second amendt which implies the right of self defense with a firearm. But not all self defense is with a firearm.

I believe there is cause for charges related to malicious prosecution (many jurisdictions have such laws) or perhaps tampering with or witholding of evidence if not outright perjury.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 26, 2021, 09:23:09 AMDo we really need such laws?  Apparently so. It seems that prosecutorial misconduct is such nowadays that it might be necessary to affirm the right of self defense to prevent railroading of those faced with the choice of defense of their person or getting killed or injured. IMHO It should be a federal law as based upon the right to "Life Liberty ad Persuit of Happiness" as well as the second amendt which implies the right of self defense with a firearm. But not all self defense is with a firearm.

I believe there is cause for charges related to malicious prosecution (many jurisdictions have such laws) or perhaps tampering with or witholding of evidence if not outright perjury.

I'm not sure that more laws will help. If we have liberals who flaunt, ignore or fail to enforce the laws we already then more laws on the books will not help. It is illegal to commit election fraud and yet, that is exactly what was done.

Immigration laws for example are routinely ignored and Washington encourages laws to be ignored and does nothing about it. Liberals even want to pay people with tax payer dollars to ignore immigration laws.

Quote from: RV on November 26, 2021, 01:34:44 PMI'm not sure that more laws will help. If we have liberals who flaunt, ignore or fail to enforce the laws we already then more laws on the books will not help. It is illegal to commit election fraud and yet, that is exactly what was done.

Immigration laws for example are routinely ignored and Washington encourages laws to be ignored and does nothing about it. Liberals even want to pay people with tax payer dollars to ignore immigration laws.

Good points. If laws are selectively enforced, as they so often are now, there is no law. Just as the Left denies the existence of absolute truth, it bristles at the concept of absolute law.

In any case, this nation is already the most law-burdened in the history of the planet. Federal prosecutors brag that every citizen is guilty of committing multiple crimes every day; it's just a matter of finding the right statute (or, increasingly, the proper administrative regulation or rule) to bring to bear. Sol Wachter, the former Chief Judge of New York State, made his now-famous boast - that a motivated district attorney "could indict a him sandwich" - almost forty years ago.

The US ranks second (to only Israel) among countries in terms of lawyers per capita. The US national average is roughly 400 per 100,000, but the rate in New York is over 800/100,000 and in the District of Columbia it exceeds 8,000/100,000! Out of every twelve DC residents, one is likely to be a lawyer. We have long ago passed the point where litigating and legislating combined to form a self-sustaining industry.

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 10, 2021, 09:57:21 AMGood points. If laws are selectively enforced, as they so often are now, there is no law. Just as the Left denies the existence of absolute truth, it bristles at the concept of absolute law.

In any case, this nation is already the most law-burdened in the history of the planet. Federal prosecutors brag that every citizen is guilty of committing multiple crimes every day; it's just a matter of finding the right statute (or, increasingly, the proper administrative regulation or rule) to bring to bear. Sol Wachter, the former Chief Judge of New York State, made his now-famous boast - that a motivated district attorney "could indict a him sandwich" - almost forty years ago.

The US ranks second (to only Israel) among countries in terms of lawyers per capita. The US national average is roughly 400 per 100,000, but the rate in New York is over 800/100,000 and in the District of Columbia it exceeds 8,000/100,000! Out of every twelve DC residents, one is likely to be a lawyer. We have long ago passed the point where litigating and legislating combined to form a self-sustaining industry.

Excellent point. The legal system needs to be thrown in the trash and we need to go back to the basics of common law from history.

Meant "ham sandwich" above. Hey, mods! Why can't I edit posts?

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 10, 2021, 01:41:32 PMMeant "ham sandwich" above. Hey, mods! Why can't I edit posts?

There's a time limit of something like 5 minutes to edit your post, then it is permanent. Otherwise libs try to go back and change what they said when we catch them in a lie.

Quote from: T Hunt on December 10, 2021, 08:25:10 PMThere's a time limit of something like 5 minutes to edit your post, then it is permanent. Otherwise libs try to go back and change what they said when we catch them in a lie.

Did you really think I was talking about a "him sandwich?"

 

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 10, 2021, 09:38:29 PMDid you really think I was talking about a "him sandwich?"

 

No, I'm not calling you a liberal, I'm just saying thats why they have that feature.