Are conservatism and Trumpism now one and the same?

Started by sataspa, June 11, 2021, 09:53:40 AM

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sataspa

Is there any room among conservatives for disagreement with Trump or discussion about issues that don't take Trump's dictates as sovereign?
Have you ever had a guy threaten
to beat you to death with his leg?
Because I have, and it's not pretty.

taxed

Quote from: sataspa on June 11, 2021, 09:53:40 AMIs there any room among conservatives for disagreement with Trump or discussion about issues that don't take Trump's dictates as sovereign?

Can you present such a dictate for discussion?
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sataspa

Quote from: taxed on June 11, 2021, 09:55:26 AMCan you present such a dictate for discussion?
Yesterday Trump seemed to side with one of America's greatest enemies (Putin) in advance of the G7 in Cornwall. Isn't that something that conservatives before Trump would have found unpatriotic?
Have you ever had a guy threaten
to beat you to death with his leg?
Because I have, and it's not pretty.

taxed

Quote from: sataspa on June 11, 2021, 10:01:08 AMYesterday Trump seemed to side with one of America's greatest enemies (Putin) in advance of the G7 in Cornwall. Isn't that something that conservatives before Trump would have found unpatriotic?

How so?
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T Hunt

Quote from: sataspa on June 11, 2021, 10:01:08 AMYesterday Trump seemed to side with one of America's greatest enemies (Putin) in advance of the G7 in Cornwall. Isn't that something that conservatives before Trump would have found unpatriotic?

You are very naive. Numerous times trump has SAID things he never meant in order to mess with the left and the MSM.

Remember when he said he would ban certain guns, but he never did? He will sometimes say things he never intends to follow thru with. If you paid attention to him you would realize that.

Never judge people primarily on their words, only their actions. What has trump DONE? Its been very conservative.

But realize what conservatism is. (You probably dont) Solar has a good run down of it somewhere on the site.
But suffice to say there is alot of diversity of ideas WITHIN the conservative tent. We arent intolerant like the left is.
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Solar

Quote from: T Hunt on June 11, 2021, 12:09:06 PMYou are very naive. Numerous times trump has SAID things he never meant in order to mess with the left and the MSM.

Remember when he said he would ban certain guns, but he never did? He will sometimes say things he never intends to follow thru with. If you paid attention to him you would realize that.

Never judge people primarily on their words, only their actions. What has trump DONE? Its been very conservative.

But realize what conservatism is. (You probably dont) Solar has a good run down of it somewhere on the site.
But suffice to say there is alot of diversity of ideas WITHIN the conservative tent. We arent intolerant like the left is.

Thanks for mentioning it...
I might even edit my piece to include: Society = Conservatism. This simple phrase speaks volumes about society and millennia' of proven traits of a functioning society. Conservatism is about change, slow change that works, sudden changes disrupt society, which is exactly what the Marxists are pushing PC, Woke shit, LBGQASDF what ever the fuck they call it, all designed to destroy a working society.

What Is Conservatism?

This is a question that eludes many people, including conservatives.  It is often incorrectly described as an ideology.  It is not an ideology, which is an adherence to a rigid set of beliefs regardless of human experience.  An ideology must ignore conservative principals.

Conservatism is a way of life.  A conservative treats others with respect, and will never infringe upon one's life, liberty, or property.

An exemplary conservative does not exist.  Conservatism is not shipped with an instruction manual.  It consists of natural law, God's law, i.e, "do unto others", and common sense.

Conservatism is the absence of government control over the individual.  The individual decides how he defines the states' power in protecting his liberties.  Every human being has God given inalienable rights.

Conservative principals have been honed by years of human experience, based on reason, history, thinking, reading, observation, and traditions.

The conservative believes in the social contract that binds a healthy and working harmonic society, even something as innocuous as accepting which side of the road to drive on.  We embrace change, but slow, adaptive change, as opposed to the cultural disruptions anti-conservatism demands.  We favor the preservation of established customs, as values agreed upon edicts a binding society.

Free market principals are sacred to conservatives, where voluntary agreement or exchange occurs between parties without government intrusion.  A free market is the foundation of a free, peaceful society.

The doctrine of the equality of mankind and the desirability of political and economic and social equality helps define the conservative.  A conservative believes in egalitarianism where color or race plays no part in a conservative's life.  There is no such thing as "special rights", as such a failing would result in someone else's liberties being trampled.

Conservatism is not a political party, and especially not defined as a modern day Republican.

Another route we might consider for examples of conservatism, such as life lessons, is "lead by example", or be the best you can be in a particular job in life. Even with the most menial of jobs, always be the best, because for one, you never knows who's watching, and there is more than a 50/50 chance it will open the next door in your life.

If for nothing else, personal integrity (honesty), satisfaction in knowing you did your best. This is what allows a conservative to always take the high road over that of the unprincipled liberal.

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