Morning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere. The echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward. He lost get over it. As I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life. They saw Trump for who he is. All this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing. Of course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting. That should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 05:14:33 AMMorning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere. The echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward. He lost get over it. As I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life. They saw Trump for who he is. All this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing. Of course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting. That should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

First off, we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic, and as such everything should be done to settle the issue of was there fraud. If one party cheats and gets away with it we lose it all, all of us. On the bright side, there are now several audits going on and the truth will come out. How come only one party is against that?

Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 05:14:33 AMMorning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere. The echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward. He lost get over it. As I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life. They saw Trump for who he is. All this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing. Of course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting. That should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

A couple of things here? We're not Pubs, we're trying to steal the party for ourselves.
And your BS about democracy, well, it's just that, pure BS!

Using your description of democracy, Venezuela is a democracy, Cuba is a democracy, even China is a democracy, but they all share one inherent flaw, they lack laws governing the head of power.

We, our Founders saw this inherent flaw, they knew without laws, the mob would rule, they would put someone in office who would seize all the power for the majority, or simply steal it for themselves, hence the reason for a Republic, to keep power out of the hands of idiots like you.

You know, communist enablers, people who prefer to destroy rather then develop.
That's why society was wise in creating barriers, obstacles that keep the mob in check.
That's Right nimrod, we surpassed the idea of mob rule and with a Republic.

Because you were warned about derailing threads and resurrecting an old debate, one in which you totally got your ass beat beyond recognition, I'm putting your ass in prison, the sentence to be determined by me at a later date.
I am your democrat, I am the dictator, I decide your punishment.
See, had we been a Republic, there would have been laws of adjudication, appeals to your case.
But that shit don't exist in a Democracy because the Mob gave me all the power which makes me the final word.

Isn't Democracy great? Oh? an if you contact me by PM or email, I will literally ban your ass for life, pretty much a death sentence.
You were warned, and yet you couldn't resist, so here's the consequences of democracy.
Suffer Bitch!

Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 05:46:26 AMA couple of things here? We're not Pubs, we're trying to steal the party for ourselves.
And your BS about democracy, well, it's just that, pure BS!

Using your description of democracy, Venezuela is a democracy, Cuba is a democracy, even China is a democracy, but they all share one inherent flaw, they lack laws governing the head of power.

We, our Founders saw this inherent flaw, they knew without laws, the mob would rule, they would put someone in office who would seize all the power for the majority, or simply steal it for themselves, hence the reason for a Republic, to keep power out of the hands of idiots like you.

You know, communist enablers, people who prefer to destroy rather then develop.
That's why society was wise in creating barriers, obstacles that keep the mob in check.
That's Right nimrod, we surpassed the idea of mob rule and with a Republic.

Because you were warned about derailing threads and resurrecting an old debate, one in which you totally got your ass beat beyond recognition, I'm putting your ass in prison, the sentence to be determined by me at a later date.
I am your democrat, I am the dictator, I decide your punishment.
See, had we been a Republic, there would have been laws of adjudication, appeals to your case.
But that shit don't exist in a Democracy because the Mob gave me all the power which makes me the final word.

Isn't Democracy great? Oh? an if you contact me by PM or email, I will literally ban your ass for life, pretty much a death sentence.
You were warned, and yet you couldn't resist, so here's the consequences of democracy.
Suffer Bitch!

Hey Walks. Feel free to ban his ass. I'll decide later how long, probably next year we may make a consideration.
Commies have no place in this country, and it's about time he learned it!

Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 05:14:33 AMMorning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere.

You're Canadian.  Nobody cares what you guys think.

QuoteThe echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward.

The United States isn't an echo chamber, but I do appreciate you acknowledging he won.

QuoteHe lost get over it. As I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life.

He didn't lose, but nobody cares about the McCains, Romneys, etc...

QuoteThey saw Trump for who he is.

He scares anti-Americans, no doubt.  It's why he's loved so much by our country and won all 50 states.

QuoteAll this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing.

I agree.  Just hand over the devices, quit trying to stop audits, and start supporting the audits.  There's no reason for you to keep melting down.

QuoteOf course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting.

That's true, but they're just RINOs.  The patriotic Republican members are making sure the audits moves forward to return the voice back to the people.

QuoteThat should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

It does, but we'll take care of them.  Most of them will end up in prison anyway for their role in the attempted election coup.

We win. You lose.

https://rumble.com/embed/vfbtq1/?pub=4

Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 05:14:33 AMMorning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere. The echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward. He lost get over it. As I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life. They saw Trump for who he is. All this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing. Of course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting. That should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

Everyday I always try and start my day off with best intentions and positive attitude....then idiots happen.

IMO....Pence should have had the balls to say...there appears to be serious irregularities in this election, I'm sending this back to the states for them to do a forensic audit.

Quote from: Solar on June 03, 2021, 05:46:26 AMA couple of things here? We're not Pubs, we're trying to steal the party for ourselves.
And your BS about democracy, well, it's just that, pure BS!

Using your description of democracy, Venezuela is a democracy, Cuba is a democracy, even China is a democracy, but they all share one inherent flaw, they lack laws governing the head of power.

We, our Founders saw this inherent flaw, they knew without laws, the mob would rule, they would put someone in office who would seize all the power for the majority, or simply steal it for themselves, hence the reason for a Republic, to keep power out of the hands of idiots like you.

You know, communist enablers, people who prefer to destroy rather then develop.
That's why society was wise in creating barriers, obstacles that keep the mob in check.
That's Right nimrod, we surpassed the idea of mob rule and with a Republic.

Because you were warned about derailing threads and resurrecting an old debate, one in which you totally got your ass beat beyond recognition, I'm putting your ass in prison, the sentence to be determined by me at a later date.
I am your democrat, I am the dictator, I decide your punishment.
See, had we been a Republic, there would have been laws of adjudication, appeals to your case.
But that shit don't exist in a Democracy because the Mob gave me all the power which makes me the final word.

Isn't Democracy great? Oh? an if you contact me by PM or email, I will literally ban your ass for life, pretty much a death sentence.
You were warned, and yet you couldn't resist, so here's the consequences of democracy.
Suffer Bitch!

        
(we really need a clapping emoji, that would be perfect here)

Quote from: midcan5 on June 03, 2021, 05:14:33 AMMorning everyone, hope all are well.  Name calling doesn't get us anywhere.

So why do you keep calling trump names then? Guess you are a hypocrite.

QuoteThe echo chamber in which Trump won doesn't help America move forward. He lost get over it.

Sorry darling, but since you wont provide any proof or evidence of that claim no one is taking it seriously. Your side is losing.

QuoteAs I noted in another thread I knew several republicans who voted for a democrat for the first time in their life. They saw Trump for who he is. All this crying and gnashing of teeth accomplishes nothing.

Then how did he win in a landslide when the majority voted for him and he won the popular vote both in 2016 and 2020?

QuoteOf course several republican legislatures are trying hard to stop Americans from voting. That should bother you guys. Two hundred years and now they want to destroy our democratic republic.

You mean stopping DEAD an ILLEGAL americans from voting.
Only the left is trying to stop the audits and discount americans votes, destroying our republic.

Quote"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes

We arent a democracy, we are a republic.


You parroted claims by the MSM that you couldnt back up with facts and evidence.
Now you are gone, a fading memory, and america is still beating the commies.
Guess you failed your mission and will have to earn your paycheck somewhere else.
Have a nice day.       

Quote from: T Hunt on June 03, 2021, 07:07:18 AM       
(we really need a clapping emoji, that would be perfect here)

Thanks...
He needed a real life lesson on why we are not a democracy. Either way, the commie is gone.

Two pages ago I asked how will it ever be known that there was an election coup because the MSM will never let that become common knowledge among the people.  My point was if the American people cannot see the proof, then nothing can change.  Even my friends and family that voted for Trump and want Trump do not believe the election was stolen.  If the military try to overthrow Biden without the support of average Americans who aren't political junkies and don't have knowledge of the election coup, what will happen?  A civil war?  Is that what anyone wants?

Again, I want it absolutely, but I can't see a path to get there.

Stop relying on others to do your homework, simply stick around for awhile and read, and read some more, the answers have been posted, you need to seek them out.

Anyone who doesn't see the obvious, is lazy and not real supporters of the Conservative movement.

Quote from: RedGirlinBlueMd on June 03, 2021, 05:20:16 PMTwo pages ago I asked how will it ever be known that there was an election coup because the MSM will never let that become common knowledge among the people.  My point was if the American people cannot see the proof, then nothing can change.  Even my friends and family that voted for Trump and want Trump do not believe the election was stolen.

It's your job to start the path of educating them.

With people like this, you can't just tell them the truth and expect them to flip.  Start a reverse-frog boil.  You can't take the frog out of the pot and throw him into some ice water.  It's too much of a shock to the system.  Even the commies know how the masses react, hence they they've slow boiled us for years.

Instead, ask a simple question to your family, like this: "If you see proof that Trump not only won the election, but in a massive landslide, would you believe the election was stolen?".

It seems like an odd question, but it gets their little hamster in their brain onto the wheel and begin to start burning some calories.  Just getting them to answer "yes" or "no" to that question would be a huge step forward.  It seems like it's not, but it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to get people who watch Fox News to start thinking on their own, or even consider that the criminals aren't allowed to keep what they stole.

Do that and report back.

Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 02:03:23 AMIt's your job to start the path of educating them.

With people like this, you can't just tell them the truth and expect them to flip.  Start a reverse-frog boil.  You can't take the frog out of the pot and throw him into some ice water.  It's too much of a shock to the system.  Even the commies know how the masses react, hence they they've slow boiled us for years.

Instead, ask a simple question to your family, like this: "If you see proof that Trump not only won the election, but in a massive landslide, would you believe the election was stolen?".

It seems like an odd question, but it gets their little hamster in their brain onto the wheel and begin to start burning some calories.  Just getting them to answer "yes" or "no" to that question would be a huge step forward.  It seems like it's not, but it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to get people who watch Fox News to start thinking on their own, or even consider that the criminals aren't allowed to keep what they stole.

Do that and report back.

These people are in for a Shock Awakening. They watch TV and think they're informed, anyway, I assume that's where her 'friends and family' are getting all the false information.
Here we are, and after all the lies and culture destroying BS on TV and people still sit and watch that shit?

Quote from: Solar on June 04, 2021, 03:41:12 AMThese people are in for a Shock Awakening. They watch TV and think they're informed, anyway, I assume that's where her 'friends and family' are getting all the false information.
Here we are, and after all the lies and culture destroying BS on TV and people still sit and watch that shit?

They're in for two shocks, the second shock will be when they find out how few people support them. We know there will be the customary looting and burning, but that will be in their own back yard again.