So, are you telling me these pea-brained hippies in the Canada 1st Party could get elected? If so, you will believe anything. At least you have a sense of humour. 
They say they will pay off the national debt at the same time as they are cutting taxes. Maybe they think elves will shower us with money as we sleep.

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 27, 2021, 05:22:21 PMSo, are you telling me these pea-brained hippies in the Canada 1st Party could get elected? If so, you will believe anything. At least you have a sense of humour. 
They say they will pay off the national debt at the same time as they are cutting taxes. Maybe they think elves will shower us with money as we sleep.

LOL! The British laughed at the Idea of an Independent America too.
Then we sent them a Declaration Of Independence. Whos' laughing now?

You do know, corrupt Govt's fall, Right?

If the Liberals are defated in the next election, it will be the Conservatives who form a government.
For a fringe candidate, it means spending thousands of dollars of their own money because nobody is willing to donate to a losing campaign. The candidate will have tossed their life savings in to a losing campaign. You just have to look at what happened to all the People's Party candidates.

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 27, 2021, 01:57:43 PMAnd you have President Biden. Prime Minister Trudeau learned the game literally on his daddy's knee. The advantage a government of Canada has is we don't have a deep state. We have a professional civil service. The Minister tells the civil service what the government wants to accomplish and the civil service guides them through it to avoid pitfalls and unforeseen consequences. On any issue, a government whether Canadian, UK or US, has only a narrow range of options. Why would a government try to be unpopular?

That is a very naive observation. If you have career bureaucrats in the government you have a swamp.

Who will you get to provide experienced non-partisan advice to a minister if not from an individual who has spend time working to gain experience? If you are saying we should fire all public servants when a new government comes into power, you end up with nobody knowing what they are doing and a government that will go off the rails. That and the fact that nobody is going to apply for a job in public service if they are going to end up unemployed in a couple of years.

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 28, 2021, 06:11:37 AMWho will you get to provide experienced non-partisan advice to a minister if not from an individual who has spend time working to gain experience? If you are saying we should fire all public servants when a new government comes into power, you end up with nobody knowing what they are doing and a government that will go off the rails. That and the fact that nobody is going to apply for a job in public service if they are going to end up unemployed in a couple of years.

You have way too much blind faith in govt. Govt is simply bureaucracy piled on even more bureaucracy feeding itself.
The more it taxes, the larger and more oppressive it becomes. You may not take issue with religious persecution, but believe me, others recognize the makings of a dictatorship, where Govt decides who the winners and losers are in the midst of a so called "Pandemic".

It's the hate and weariness of an oppressive govt that gains the wrath of the people, and the govt needs to decide whether it backs off, or doubles down, and that's when the people decide it's time for change.
Is Canada there? Close, but it will have to get worse to wake up Canadians, they're used to being told what to do.

Does this movement have a chance? Not until they choose a charismatic leader. She is smart, but her tongue is not native, so she comes off as a usurper.
But the roots are grounded, so the Canadian Govt does have an actual threat on their hands.

You may not believe it, but Turdeau is a Marxist, a puppet to be honest, but the figure head of an even more devious movement.
Hell, he's the child of Castro, that should tell you just how long Canada has been in trouble.

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Feb. 14, 2017 — Margaret and Pierre were secretly married on March 4, 1971, after which ... following Pierre and Margaret Trudeau's first meeting with Castro in 1976. ... Upon Castro's death in November, Prime Minister Trudeau attracted ...
You guys will believe anything. Actually, I know you are not serious but for the fun of it I have provided a link from the National Post just so no one will try to say it is left wing media.
Canadian voters don't feel "oppressed. The Federal and Provincial governments' response to the pandemic has solid support with the exception of Premiers Ford and Kenney of Ontario and Alberta. Ironically, they are the two most conservative Premiers we have. Both will have trouble being re-elected.
Canada has managed to keep the case numbers and death toll to about one third of the US on a per capita basis, mainly because the over whelming majority of people comply with public health advice. We do have a few loud mouth cement heads who protest wearing masks and are scared of needles, but it looks like we will have almost 80% of the population over 12 years old fully vaccinated by the end of summer.
This Canada 1st Party in a seed that has fallen on barren ground. When we get rid of the Grits, we will elect the Tories, not some clowns in a hippie slpinter party who have no clue.
Someone said government make the people dependent on government, but in reality, government is dependent on the people. Cut our government benifits and the government is defeated.

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 28, 2021, 07:15:03 AMNo, internet, Fidel Castro isn't Trudeau's real father. The ...https://nationalpost.com › news › canada › no-internet-f...
Feb. 14, 2017 — Margaret and Pierre were secretly married on March 4, 1971, after which ... following Pierre and Margaret Trudeau's first meeting with Castro in 1976. ... Upon Castro's death in November, Prime Minister Trudeau attracted ...
You guys will believe anything. Actually, I know you are not serious but for the fun of it I have provided a link from the National Post just so no one will try to say it is left wing media.
Canadian voters don't feel "oppressed. The Federal and Provincial governments' response to the pandemic has solid support with the exception of Premiers Ford and Kenney of Ontario and Alberta. Ironically, they are the two most conservative Premiers we have. Both will have trouble being re-elected.
Canada has managed to keep the case numbers and death toll to about one third of the US on a per capita basis, mainly because the over whelming majority of people comply with public health advice. We do have a few loud mouth cement heads who protest wearing masks and are scared of needles, but it looks like we will have almost 80% of the population over 12 years old fully vaccinated by the end of summer.
This Canada 1st Party in a seed that has fallen on barren ground. When we get rid of the Grits, we will elect the Tories, not some clowns in a hippie slpinter party who have no clue.
Someone said government make the people dependent on government, but in reality, government is dependent on the people. Cut our government benifits and the government is defeated.

I knew you'd take the bait.
You aren't here for actual discussion, it was a test to see if you'd ignore the crux of the post and go for the Obvious distraction.
Get back to me when you're serious.

Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2021, 07:28:23 AMI knew you'd take the bait.
You aren't here for actual discussion, it was a test to see if you'd ignore the crux of the post and go for the Obvious distraction.
Get back to me when you're serious.

I never thought for a moment anything in this thread was serious, but I do love urban folklore. Just for fun, what was the crux of the post? I thought it was the fantasy that this Canada 1st Party was a serious threat to the Canadian government. But, in the long run, nobody really cares.
What is interesting are the doll houses in Toy's posts. Well done.
Have a great weekend.

Quote from: Tory Potter on May 28, 2021, 07:43:29 AMI never thought for a moment anything in this thread was serious, but I do love urban folklore. Just for fun, what was the crux of the post? I thought it was the fantasy that this Canada 1st Party was a serious threat to the Canadian government. But, in the long run, nobody really cares.
What is interesting are the doll houses in Toy's posts. Well done.
Have a great weekend.

They didn't take TEA seriously either, and look where we are today.

You have the last word.