COVID-19, known as WUFLU

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Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
i  belive  he said he wouldnt sign the  pelosi bill. T he  senate bill is  secretly  being written now. Do you  have a  link saying  he wont sign ANY  bailout  bill?
Hell, even The Con said it will be dead on arrival. The Senate can't write Bills, only the house. Though the Senate can pull old Bills up if they like.
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Pres. Trump Says House's COVID-19 Relief Bill 'Dead On Arrival'
Newsy via AOL· 2 days ago

President Donald Trump and the GOP-controlled Senate had a short response to House Democrats' new $3...

As i thought

ldub23

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.

WMK

Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.

Read that entire Horowitz piece and want to thank you for sharing it. Couldn't find a flaw in it, unfortunately. We'll soon find out; just how prescient is Horowitz!?

ldub23

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Quote from: WMK on May 17, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
Read that entire Horowitz piece and want to thank you for sharing it. Couldn't find a flaw in it, unfortunately. We'll soon find out; just how prescient is Horowitz!?

The sad thing is everyone here knows how republicans do things. The senate  is going to trim pelosi's  bill to 2.5 trillion, call it a conservative victory and move on. And Trump WILL sign it.

The bad part is Trump is holding all the cards. No bailout till every state is fully open but he is going to get bluffed and fold.

WMK

Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 05:21:37 AM
The sad thing is everyone here knows how republicans do things. The senate  is going to trim pelosi's  bill to 2.5 trillion, call it a conservative victory and move on. And Trump WILL sign it.

The bad part is Trump is holding all the cards. No bailout till every state is fully open but he is going to get bluffed and fold.

So how many fingers do you need to count the republicans that will stand against this political shell game?  By myself, I have more than enough,IMO.



ldub23

Rand Paul? The article also points out its not too late. Let the president and your elected representatives know a yes on bailout=a no vote in Nov

Killer Clouds

Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:15:41 AM
Rand Paul? The article also points out its not too late. Let the president and your elected representatives know a yes on bailout=a no vote in Nov
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.

ldub23

Quote from: Killer Clouds on May 17, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.

Im saying you have a chance to change things  now or be happy with paying to be  locked down longer.

ldub23



The Virginian-Pilot
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· 13h
The beach at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront was closed today. But it was packed.

This photo was taken at 3:42 p.m. this afternoon by Virginian-Pilot photographer Kaitlin McKeown. https://pilotonline.com/business/consu

Not all virginians are obeying stalinist dictator northam and his gestapo thugs. I have been to a small beach in newport news every damn day.

ldub23

Quote from: Killer Clouds on May 17, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.

Conservatives stopped amnesty in congress several times by  being  vocal. You want to pay for  NYC being  locked down then just stay shut  up and accept it. Be happy to pay for CA, HI,IL,MA,WA, ORE, MI and others to lock down, or tell trump how you feel.

Calypso Jones

Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:47:20 AM


The Virginian-Pilot
@virginianpilot
· 13h
The beach at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront was closed today. But it was packed.

This photo was taken at 3:42 p.m. this afternoon by Virginian-Pilot photographer Kaitlin McKeown. https://pilotonline.com/business/consu

Not all virginians are obeying stalinist dictator northam and his gestapo thugs. I have been to a small beach in newport news every damn day.

what's the deal here.   Click on link and page cannot be found...'or it has moved'.   

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Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.
There's no doubt they'll whittle it down, that's why Fuglosi padded the Hell out of it. The real question is, will Trump bail out Blue states? NO! all the States will get a fair cut, that's it!
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Antibody tests continue to suggest COVID-19 far more widespread, less deadly than initially thought

International alarm surrounding the coronavirus has been driven largely by early estimates about the death rate, but new antibody tests are significantly undercutting those projections.

In early March, for example, World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom declared that globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. He added, "by comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected."

For reasons that were unclear, Adhanom was comparing the death rate of reported COVID-19 cases to that of the total number of influenza infections. This kind of apples-to-oranges accounting is guaranteed to make the coronavirus death rate seem astronomically higher than that of the flu.

If the flu death rate were to be calculated the same way many public health officials have calculated the COVID-19 death rate, the mortality rate for seasonal influenza would be vastly higher than the relatively low number we have now. Most flu cases go undiagnosed, with health officials for the most part estimating rather than confirming the total number of cases each season. They ultimately calculate the mortality rates based on those estimates, not the actual confirmed cases.

Health officials during this pandemic have been slow to explore how many actual cases of COVID-19 exist throughout the population, instead basing their conclusions and policy recommendations on lab-confirmed infection rates. Yet a growing series of tests conducted by labs throughout the country suggest that, like influenza, COVID-19 is significantly more widespread than it seems — and that its death rate is consequently much lower than current numbers suggest.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/antibody-tests-continue-suggest-covid-19-far-more-widespread-less
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