Quote from: winterset on May 04, 2021, 10:47:37 AM
How about
'Karl Marx-responsible for more deaths than any other human in history"
Would you read that?

He's read it and agreed with it.

Causes of death is a tough topic. Ideology follows Mother Nature if we are open to all causes of death. Look at the Black Plague for instance. It may have killed half the world's population, approx 50 million. According to many Hitler (Fascism) is first, but from my own reading I wonder if Mao (Maoism) isn't the worst. Who counted? How many did world wide slavery cause? Germs probably beat all, look at Aids, Ebola, Covid-19 etc in our own time.

Twentieth Century list according to most historians.

Adolph Hitler
Josef Stalin
Mao Zedong
Pol Pot

Causes of death

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death


"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy

Quote from: midcan5 on May 14, 2021, 09:04:40 AMCauses of death is a tough topic. Ideology follows Mother Nature if we are open to all causes of death. Look at the Black Plague for instance. It may have killed half the world's population, approx 50 million. According to many Hitler (Fascism) is first, but from my own reading I wonder if Mao (Maoism) isn't the worst. Who counted? How many did world wide slavery cause? Germs probably beat all, look at Aids, Ebola, Covid-19 etc in our own time.

Twentieth Century list according to most historians.

Adolph Hitler
Josef Stalin
Mao Zedong
Pol Pot

Causes of death

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death


"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy

Any source that does not put Mao as the greatest murderer of all time is worthless. It is not even close.
Hitler is a poor third. Stalin is easily number two.

You can get all sorts of estimates but most honest ones have Mao at around 60-80 million AT LEAST
Between the cultural revolution and the deliberately engineered famine.

Stalin- 20-40 million depending on how you count. Start out with 3-5 million at least in the Ukraine in another engineered famine (Communists do that quite well) and then the purges and the gulags and the penal battalions forced to charge into minefields and machine gun nests in WW2.

Hitler is a paltry third at 9-11 million.