Quote from: midcan5 on August 10, 2022, 05:35:03 AMThe book is a fascinating read and I recommend it as it covers extreme right and left in other nations. It outlines the historic changes we all see, read it and challenge yourself.

As far as the NWO I am a total and complete skeptic when it comes to any conspiracy or conspiratorial thinking. I consider myself a realist. Change is right in front of us and if we take the time we can see the whys and wherefores. Again it is a topic I've investigated through the years. One is linked below.

'Republic of Lies: American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power' by Anna Merlan

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40046060-republic-of-lies


"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead." Benjamin Franklin

It's not conspiracy in the least.
Schwab and others of his ilk have stated in as much what they've been planning for decades/
Why have you refused to hear what they said?

They control the money, they've leveraged corporations to do as they demand or they won't be allowed to purchase raw materials.
How can you not know this? The entire world knows this is happening, yet you have somehow magically missed the biggest story in human history?
The AGW BS was a primer, "Green Energy" is a lie as they used it to kill our production, and you didn't see this?

OK, it's settled, you are either the Dumbest Fuck on the planet, or a paid troll.
Which is it?

Solar,  I am not a conspiracy thinker but many are, my thinking is much so called conspiracy is right out in the open.

There is no specific evidence that the election was stolen. Arizona is an example after a serious recount. I'll reply to your D'Souza movie link after I check it out. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/28/fact-check-arizona-audit-affirms-biden-win-doesnt-prove-voter-fraud/5846640001/

Quote from: midcan5 on August 11, 2022, 01:23:25 PMSolar,  I am not a conspiracy thinker but many are, my thinking is much so called conspiracy is right out in the open.

There is no specific evidence that the election was stolen. Arizona is an example after a serious recount. I'll reply to your D'Souza movie link after I check it out. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/28/fact-check-arizona-audit-affirms-biden-win-doesnt-prove-voter-fraud/5846640001/

You have to watch it in its entirety, or it won't make sense.

I addressed my thoughts on 2000 mules in thread on election. Back on books.

I am constantly giving books away and going through old reads, I recently picked up Corey Robin's 'The Reactionary Mind' and skimmed it, especially his conclusions. It made me think about today, it is roughly ten years old. While I consider myself a conservative liberal or visa versa, Robin's book made me ponder the times we live in that are so divisive.

'Who's correct about human nature, the left or the right?' This article is more than 11 years old' Ed Rooksby

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/nov/20/human-nature-politics-left-right

Human nature a complex topic.

Why do you always read leftist trash, in hopes of affirming your delusional beliefs that communism hasn't yet been applied properly?

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2022, 03:29:51 PMWhy do you always read leftist trash, in hopes of affirming your delusional beliefs that communism hasn't yet been applied properly?

Because reading anything else would make him stop and think about his beliefs. And that, is against the leftist rules.

Quote from: Possum on August 12, 2022, 03:40:57 PMBecause reading anything else would make him stop and think about his beliefs. And that, is against the leftist rules.

How can one hate Freedom and liberty so much that they refuse to understand that is the US were to fall, all the corrupt communist elite will institute a Liberal NWO?
This would be a return to the church's Dark Ages.

Happy Saturday guys,  I read a lot but I've lived a lot too. Those of us who served during Nam realize the complexity of media whether public or government, those times and the words of leaders should give anyone pause. Is today really that different. I don't consider the The Guardian liberal or conservative, I feel it is an source of info which allows us to judge. The trouble I have today with labels like con v lib is they place us in corners. 

Quote from: midcan5 on August 13, 2022, 04:19:32 PMHappy Saturday guys,  I read a lot but I've lived a lot too. Those of us who served during Nam realize the complexity of media whether public or government, those times and the words of leaders should give anyone pause. Is today really that different. I don't consider the The Guardian liberal or conservative, I feel it is an source of info which allows us to judge. The trouble I have today with labels like con v lib is they place us in corners. 

Wrong! It literally come down Marxist vs Conservatives! If you're a leftist, you either openly or passively support the NWO. Conservatives are against govt expansion of any kind.

Think CCP Flu Hoax and 86,000 new IRS agents

Another book on our changing times.  See last link.

"Democracy is in decline. Over half of the world's population now lives under some form of authoritarian rule. Wherever democracy deteriorates, so does support for transparency and accountability. Disinformation about current events thrives, as do versions of history that cover up authoritarian crimes."

https://lucid.substack.com/p/welcome-to-lucid

'Strongmen Mussolini to the Present' 'What modern authoritarian leaders have in common (and how they can be stopped).'

https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324001546

Ruth Ben-Ghiat: 'Any society can be susceptible to strongman figures if it's the right time.'

https://stockholmcf.org/ruth-ben-ghiat-any-society-can-be-susceptible-to-strongman-figures-if-its-the-right-time/

Now you know why we're a Republic and not a democracy.

Next up for me:  'Cultural Backlash: Trump, Brexit, and Authoritarian Populism' Pippa Norris

Culture often manages voting decisions, the changing image of America often creates a sense of loss rather than a positive of diversity.


For those who want to understand Trump's appeal check out this book.

'The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control' Steven Hassan

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43261495-the-cult-of-trump



"A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one." George R.R. Martin

Quote from: midcan5 on September 09, 2022, 04:52:48 AMNext up for me:  'Cultural Backlash: Trump, Brexit, and Authoritarian Populism' Pippa Norris

Culture often manages voting decisions, the changing image of America often creates a sense of loss rather than a positive of diversity.


For those who want to understand Trump's appeal check out this book.

'The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control' Steven Hassan

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43261495-the-cult-of-trump



"A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies. The man who never reads lives only one." George R.R. Martin

You are a fascinating study all on your own. You are unable to recognize reality due to your own Dissociative disorder, that refuses you the ability to see things as they really are.

Trump is not a cult leader, Trump came into a movement that had started decades before his entry into politics.
TEA was the lit match that congealed a movement of a nation that had already started moving Right.
Trump came in and proved his worth to the Patriot who was already loosely organized. He galvanized a movement set on throwing out a corrupt Govt that had been taken over by leftists with a goal of bringing down the American way of life.

Trump is the catalyst that gave forward momentum to a movement already formed.
Proof that Trump doesn't control the people, is his failed endorsement of Oz, the base wants nothing to do with an Establishment hack like Oz.
He's running against a full blown Marxist who just suffered a brain debilitating stroke, so bad that he comes off as bad as Biden in his speeches.
 
But check out the polling, people refuse to back Oz, we'd rather let the likes of a freak Fetterman in congress than another traitor to the cause.
I usually don't give much credence to polling, but regardless, this is telling.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/pa/pennsylvania_senate_oz_vs_fetterman-7695.html

So no, what you claim is simple projection, trump does not control the movement, he is just our voice.

Quote"Government, despite its many sins, remains the only institution that can make our freedom real." Gregory Downs

Actually the government has never made our freedoms real. It has always been We The People who have done that.

Quote from: midcan5 on August 10, 2022, 05:35:03 AMThe book is a fascinating read and I recommend it as it covers extreme right and left in other nations. It outlines the historic changes we all see, read it and challenge yourself.

As far as the NWO I am a total and complete skeptic when it comes to any conspiracy or conspiratorial thinking. I consider myself a realist. Change is right in front of us and if we take the time we can see the whys and wherefores. Again it is a topic I've investigated through the years. One is linked below.

'Republic of Lies: American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power' by Anna Merlan

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40046060-republic-of-lies


"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead." Benjamin Franklin

Oh no, its an admitted fact. They are quite open about it, admitting they are after a NWO. Just look, they admit it on camera for us all to see.

Conspiracy theorists will deny the existence of the NWO. Rational people accept the facts.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/biden-adviser-liberal-world-order-demands-enduring-high-gas-prices/