A debate between Robert Barnes and Nick Fuentes on Israel and the Middle East.

https://banthis.tv/watch?id=60adb34420262d4f3eb7028c

QuoteThe intellectual argument of the year as constitutional attorney Robert Barnes and America First firebrand Nick Fuentes face off in a live debate hosted by Infowars to discuss America's foreign policy relating to the Middle East, as the escalating regional war between Israel and the Palestinians threatens to explode into a wider conflict.

My take? No one wants to enter into war. No one really hate Israel the way Iran does, Iran is despised in the region even more.
So if one takes sides, they are immediately hated by other factions in the region and quickly become a target for terrorist attacks.
No one in the region wants anything to do with this shit, they all know Israel could make glass of the area in a heart beat.
The Palestine area was created as a dumping ground for Arabs no one wanted around, be they thieves or beggars, they were historically the outcasts of the past, so again, no one wants so called Palestinians back.

The term "Caste Out" applies here, much of the M/E was a caste system, you were either of well bred blood, or a peasant, those living in the Palestinian area are peasants, are still unwanted by anyone.

The left uses them as pawns and that area will never be anything else until the left is finally defeated.

No, there's no way I'll watch two people banter over an area no one wants to be involved in. Sorry, that's waaaay too long.

Hilarious...

https://tv.gab.com/channel/officialamericafirst/view/two-faced-robert-barnes-reverts-to-name-calling-60b00724ee9982ec684b3f10

      


https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1397365914069356544

40min in.... the gravelly voice of Alex Jones ... sorry, had to stop it.

This conflict is a Religious / religion based.  There is never going to be a political solution, based on territory.  God gave the land to Abraham, thousands of years ago, his descendants "own it" - but, "land" is not what drives the hatred of the Arabs against Israel.  They want the Jews dead, plain and simple.

Quote from: Hoofer on May 27, 2021, 04:18:09 PM40min in.... the gravelly voice of Alex Jones ... sorry, had to stop it.

This conflict is a Religious / religion based.  There is never going to be a political solution, based on territory.  God gave the land to Abraham, thousands of years ago, his descendants "own it" - but, "land" is not what drives the hatred of the Arabs against Israel.  They want the Jews dead, plain and simple.

If it wasn't the jews it would be somebody else. It's all those assholes know. If they aren't foighting the jews they're fighting someone else, each other if there's no one else handy.

Quote from: dickfoster on May 27, 2021, 05:29:40 PMIf it wasn't the jews it would be somebody else. It's all those assholes know. If they aren't foighting the jews they're fighting someone else, each other if there's no one else handy.

Probably can't spell it right..  Fighting the Jews is the only thing that ever united them.

The Bible talks about in the end days, Israel would become a real HASSLE, a weight about the necks of any country that supports them... we're starting to see that now.

As much intelligence as Israel has provided/shared with the USA, I'm kinda surprised Fuentes would be so quick to defund Israel - when there is no other good/consistent intelligence source in the middle east.  Israel is the only other nation in the ME which has common values, common culture & a democracy, similar to the USA - a natural ally - and we want to shut them out...!?  Short sighted thinking, IMO.

Another point, Israel gives the USA a good platform for weapons development & proxy waring - a place to gain real experience in weapon effectiveness.  Serious!  We develop something, like Iron Dome, and they can test it for us.  China & Russia have a dozen countries each, where they either hand over the weapons & provide the "military advisors", trying them out against emerging democracies / dictatorships. 

Another reason NOT to spurn Israel, think back to the Holocausts' survivors, and Mossad hunting down NAZIs.  Most of the initial intelligence came from Jews spread out all over the world, recognizing these WW2 criminals, and feeding information back to Mossad / intelligence.  It's like having a million "spies" implanted all over the world - why give that up???   Who has been providing the intel on Syria & Iran, the exact locations of the weapons labs, reactors, etc., it's not coming from the USA, but people sympathetic to Israel & Jews scattered abroad.  We just don't seem to appreciate this unique "vast Jewish spy network" - which has really helped the USA.

Quote from: Hoofer on May 28, 2021, 07:58:12 AMProbably can't spell it right..  Fighting the Jews is the only thing that ever united them.

The Bible talks about in the end days, Israel would become a real HASSLE, a weight about the necks of any country that supports them... we're starting to see that now.

As much intelligence as Israel has provided/shared with the USA, I'm kinda surprised Fuentes would be so quick to defund Israel - when there is no other good/consistent intelligence source in the middle east.  Israel is the only other nation in the ME which has common values, common culture & a democracy, similar to the USA - a natural ally - and we want to shut them out...!?  Short sighted thinking, IMO.

Another point, Israel gives the USA a good platform for weapons development & proxy waring - a place to gain real experience in weapon effectiveness.  Serious!  We develop something, like Iron Dome, and they can test it for us.  China & Russia have a dozen countries each, where they either hand over the weapons & provide the "military advisors", trying them out against emerging democracies / dictatorships. 

Another reason NOT to spurn Israel, think back to the Holocausts' survivors, and Mossad hunting down NAZIs.  Most of the initial intelligence came from Jews spread out all over the world, recognizing these WW2 criminals, and feeding information back to Mossad / intelligence.  It's like having a million "spies" implanted all over the world - why give that up???  Who has been providing the intel on Syria & Iran, the exact locations of the weapons labs, reactors, etc., it's not coming from the USA, but people sympathetic to Israel & Jews scattered abroad.  We just don't seem to appreciate this unique "vast Jewish spy network" - which has really helped the USA.

You don't have to sell me. I've always admired and respected Irael for having the brains, spine and guts along with the strength of conviction that this nation sorely lacks. Especally of late.

Quote from: dickfoster on May 28, 2021, 08:19:49 AMYou don't have to sell me. I've always admired and respected Israel for having the brains, spine and guts along with the strength of conviction that this nation sorely lacks. Especially of late.

Quite the contrary, I'm just adding a few points, often overlooked.

I do not understand why these anti-Israel folks assume Israel is full of New York Liberals, and Israel should not act in their own self interests?  as many times as Democrat POTUS have pulled the rug out of our support for Israel - if it were you, wouldn't you do the same?   Of course we would!

Quote from: Hoofer on May 28, 2021, 08:39:48 AMQuite the contrary, I'm just adding a few points, often overlooked.

I do not understand why these anti-Israel folks assume Israel is full of New York Liberals, and Israel should not act in their own self interests?  as many times as Democrat POTUS have pulled the rug out of our support for Israel - if it were you, wouldn't you do the same?  Of course we would!

True Israeli Jews and pretend New York Indian type Jews are about as far apart as one can imagine. To begin with one has a sack and the other doesn't. One will kick you ass for ya if you cross them while all the other does is screw up their faces and whine. Occsionally in extream cases they'll light a candle and hold a whine in mass meeting.

You're right Dickfoster!

It torques me off, when I hear someone trying to "brand" all Jews as Marxists & Socialists (from WW2) or the cause of all the world's ills - and they had nothing to do with modern day Israel.

It curious...  the people who will argue incessantly for defunding Israel, the first argument basis always starts with the non-Israel Jewish person, who probably had never visited Israel ever, no ever will.  As you suggested, these are the *same* Jews who supported and rallied *for* Germany up to the beginning of Hitler's march on Europe.  ...and the same Jews often cited as level headed examples for our foreign policy.  I think they would have had a different opinion, had they spend some time in Germany, in a concentration camp.

But, that's Liberalism - Socialism - Communism... everyone thinks they'll be calling the shots for the rest of us - instead of being the first one's SHOT in front of the rest of us.  Liberals are dreamers.

As much of the debate I could listen to, before Jones cut off Barnes in a great reply (showing HIS bias as a moderator), sorry, I wasn't impressed enough to stomach 2hrs of it.

Quote from: Hoofer on May 28, 2021, 11:17:40 AMYou're right Dickfoster!

It torques me off, when I hear someone trying to "brand" all Jews as Marxists & Socialists (from WW2) or the cause of all the world's ills - and they had nothing to do with modern day Israel.

It curious...  the people who will argue incessantly for defunding Israel, the first argument basis always starts with the non-Israel Jewish person, who probably had never visited Israel ever, no ever will.  As you suggested, these are the *same* Jews who supported and rallied *for* Germany up to the beginning of Hitler's march on Europe.  ...and the same Jews often cited as level headed examples for our foreign policy.  I think they would have had a different opinion, had they spend some time in Germany, in a concentration camp.

But, that's Liberalism - Socialism - Communism... everyone thinks they'll be calling the shots for the rest of us - instead of being the first one's SHOT in front of the rest of us.  Liberals are dreamers.

As much of the debate I could listen to, before Jones cut off Barnes in a great reply (showing HIS bias as a moderator), sorry, I wasn't impressed enough to stomach 2hrs of it.

You need to stop calling them liberals because the assholes are anything but liberal. Nor are they in any way progressive. The repressive assholes want anything but liberty or freedom of thought, if anything they want the exact opposite.