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Title: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:12:17 AM
https://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112 (https://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112)

QuoteThe Epoch Times
@TheEpochTimes
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Nazism and #fascism are framed as far-right ideologies. Yet, both systems are rooted in #communism . We'll unravel these misunderstandings about the political dichotomies of left and right.

I thought this was a very important point to make, that fascism and communism are both big government and thus both left wing ideologies.
However I have been surprised by the number of right wingers who seem to try to support fascism and claim it is not only right wing but good. 
I have to wonder if such people are not FBI plants, trying to lead the right down the wrong path.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:12:17 AMhttps://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112 (https://gab.com/TheEpochTimes/posts/108026364559488112)

I thought this was a very important point to make, that fascism and communism are both big government and thus both left wing ideologies.
However I have been surprised by the number of right wingers who seem to try to support fascism and claim it is not only right wing but good. 
I have to wonder if such people are not FBI plants, trying to lead the right down the wrong path.
Yep, and so is Nazism, and bigots who try and blame Joooos for everything, these are all rooted in Marxism!
Conservatism believes in limited Govt and personal freedoms, but all the aforementioned, are solid left.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:28:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2022, 10:10:33 AMYep, and so is Nazism, and bigots who try and blame Joooos for everything, these are all rooted in Marxism!
Conservatism believes in limited Govt and personal freedoms, but all the aforementioned, are solid left.

Ive got a couple arguments going on gab under that article and was surprised to see people defending fascism and nazism. I wonder if they are not FBI plants trying to get the right to go radical.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2022, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on March 27, 2022, 09:28:14 PMIve got a couple arguments going on gab under that article and was surprised to see people defending fascism and nazism. I wonder if they are not FBI plants trying to get the right to go radical.
Good question, makes GAB very suspect on its own, as maybe setup by the CIA?
Torba is a huge antisemite and so is at least a third of those posting on GAB.
It's why I quit going there, for anything other than memes. And even then, I usually wind up blocking at least two or three accounts a day over their bigotry and hate.

People don't realize these bigots who claim to support Trump are in fact Nazi, thing is, they're too damn young and stupid to see what they're advocating.
Like all bigots in the world, they lump everyone together over the actions of small groups or individuals.

I'll look for your posts.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AM
I've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Sick Of Silence on September 19, 2022, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new

Of course you do. That's why you are a leftist.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2022, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.


midcan, you have other threads you've ignored, so this one gets edited until you respond to replies.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/ccp-virus-and-vaccine-bio-weapon/covid-19-vaccines-98-times-worse-than-the-virus/msg494982/?boardseen#new

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/history/political-theory-and-readings/new/#new
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 20, 2022, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right.

So you subscribe to the lefts revisionist history then? Because there is nothing right wing about fascism.


QuoteThe element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism.

When has racism EVER been a right wing trait? Who were the KKK? Why does the left make up the southern swithc myth? Do you have ANY evidence of racism on the right?


QuoteBLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right.
Why are you defending BLM when they are a communist organization? Thats why CRT isnt allowed anymore, the idea that blacks have it worse than whites is communist, not rooted in reality.


QuoteStanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.
Why? He is a leftist and leftists never have anything to add. Its a tried and failed ideology of the past, not the future.


Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on September 23, 2022, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on September 20, 2022, 11:43:28 AMSo you subscribe to the lefts revisionist history then? Because there is nothing right wing about fascism....

I'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.

"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?

The KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

Racist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Black Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.

https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/

Race is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too. And calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on September 23, 2022, 06:27:13 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 23, 2022, 05:33:43 AMI'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.

"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?

The KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

Racist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Black Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.

https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/

Race is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too. And calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Seriously? Everyone knows BLM is a Soros created Marxist movement designed to divide races.
I know you know better, and it's your job to promote lies on their behalf, but no one on this forum is that stupid, and our readership knows it as well.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/\

As to your ludicrous claim about the KKK being right wing? Again, everyone knows hate and hiding behind masks is what leftists have always done, and are still doing today under the guise of anti fascists.
They are the epitome Democrat, ANTIFA supporters could actually donate to the DNC, and no, don't give me that shit that anyone could have created that link, it's the fuckin Marxist DNC after all!

Oh, and SPLC is a Marxist/Fascist organization, has been for decades, just like your beloved ACLU.

You can post all the lies you like, but there's a price to be paid, you have to prove your own bull shit!
I bet you even think planned parenthood was all about helping families, Right? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 23, 2022, 05:33:43 AMI'll address each of your comments and save space. Everything about fascism is right wing.
Actually there isnt a single thing about fascism that is right wing....

Quote"What are the 5 main ideas of fascism? Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas." Do you see the similarity?
Authoritarianism=Left wing (think socialism and the covid hoax)
Racial Nationalism=Left wing (think BLM)
Heirarchy and elitism=Left wing (ya def left wing  :lol: think hollywood and the media and Epstein)
Militarism=Left wing (think RINOs and endless useless wars like ukraine)
Myth of Decadence=??? not sure what that is
Anti-egalitarianism=Leftwing (the left hates everyone being equal, thats why they attack the middle class)
Totalitarianism=Literally leftwing (think communism and socialism and of course fascism)

So thanks for that, you just proved beyond any doubt that fascism is left wing, thanks  :thumbsup:

QuoteThe KKK are white supremacists and right wing. Their values and goals are outlined in link below.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan
If they are white supremacist then they are literally left wing. Look at how racist BLM is today and look at how there is no examples of trump ever saying anything racist. Remember, the southern switch never happened...

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/06/23/larry-elders-uncle-tom-debunks-myth-political-parties-switched-on-racism/ (https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/06/23/larry-elders-uncle-tom-debunks-myth-political-parties-switched-on-racism/)

https://www.pressveritas.com/post/systematic-racism-by-the-democrats (https://www.pressveritas.com/post/systematic-racism-by-the-democrats)

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1447240242341992 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1447240242341992)

QuoteRacist attitudes are all over the place but primarily on the right. This link covers my point.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2332649214555031

Actually that link doesnt give any examples of racism on the right. You need to post a quote from the article giving the relevant information because its not in there.....
So no examples of right wing racism so far, yet the left owns racist BLM and CRT.

QuoteBlack Lives Matter is not a communist organization. If you think it is, prove it, document it. CRT is just an attempt to understand racism. Reality: BLM is just an acknowledgement of the fact blacks are killed by police and others indiscriminately. Check out the KKK history of lynching.
Actually BLM has come out and admitted they are communist. No worming your way out of that one  :lol:
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/ (https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/)

Actually if you look at the facts you see all KKK lynching were dems on blacks, no conservatives involved.
Sorry CRT is know for pushing lies like the idea that blacks had it worse than whites, a debunked communist hoax that we are doing away with.
Actually the idea that 'blacks are killed by police and other indiscriminately' is another racist communist lie not backed up by any facts or science.
So again, thanks for showing us the connection between the left and racism. :biggrin:

Quotehttps://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/report/
again with known left wing sources that dont say what you claim they say. Why dont you paste the relevant parts in a quote so we know what you are talking about...

QuoteRace is actually a social construct but humans hate each other for all sort of reasons, religion is a big one too.
Wrong again, race is actually biological, just as gender is. But for some reason the left wants people to hate each other over race and gender.
Religion is actually supported by science, just not the religion of atheism.  :biggrin:

QuoteAnd calling a historian leftist just because you disagree and most likely have not read is not proof of anything.
Defending leftist historians just because they confirm your revisionist history is not proof of anything. However, if a historian is a leftist, then just like leftist scientists, they are not interested in facts, but in pushing their narrative. The right never does anything like that, no examples like there is for the left. But thanks for confirming that FACISM IS LEFT WING  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



Quote"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Imagine thinking that just because someone says something and someone quotes it, that automatically gives it weight  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Quote"Watch me...the proof of the pudding is in the eating." -Biden

Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 23, 2022, 06:27:13 AMSeriously? Everyone knows BLM is a Soros created Marxist movement designed to divide races.
I know you know better, and it's your job to promote lies on their behalf, but no one on this forum is that stupid, and our readership knows it as well.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/\

As to your ludicrous claim about the KKK being right wing? Again, everyone knows hate and hiding behind masks is what leftists have always done, and are still doing today under the guise of anti fascists.
They are the epitome Democrat, ANTIFA supporters could actually donate to the DNC, and no, don't give me that shit that anyone could have created that link, it's the fuckin Marxist DNC after all!

Oh, and SPLC is a Marxist/Fascist organization, has been for decades, just like your beloved ACLU.

You can post all the lies you like, but there's a price to be paid, you have to prove your own bull shit!
I bet you even think planned parenthood was all about helping families, Right? :rolleyes:

He gives all these links but none of them say what he claims they say. He thinks if he claims that the right are racist and then posts a link about a journalist whining about the right that that will somehow give weight to his baseless claim.

Oh have I mentioned that pigs can fly? Sure, thing have a look....
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork)

See, I posted a link so my claim MUST be true  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Possum on September 26, 2022, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:17:14 PMHe gives all these links but none of them say what he claims they say. He thinks if he claims that the right are racist and then posts a link about a journalist whining about the right that that will somehow give weight to his baseless claim.

Oh have I mentioned that pigs can fly? Sure, thing have a look....
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork)

See, I posted a link so my claim MUST be true  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
When a lib posts a link to other libs, they call him an intellect. When a lib posts a link to conservatives, they research it and call him a dumbass.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Possum on September 26, 2022, 12:23:50 PMWhen a lib posts a link to other libs, they call him an intellect. When a lib posts a link to conservatives, they research it and call him a dumbass.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
They dont seem to realize the right has a much better history and reputation for truth telling than the left who is literally paying millions for lying about Sandmann, and soon Rittenhouse.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Possum on September 26, 2022, 12:42:49 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 19, 2022, 06:03:11 AMI've always considered fascism right wing or alt-right. The element of fascism that is alt right for me is its racism. BLM and immigrants are evil/bad in the minds of today's alt right and thus I still consider fascism right. Stanley is an interesting historian on this topic. Read his short on Fascism.



Quotefascism
făsh′ĭz″əm
noun

    A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.Oppressive, dictatorial control.


Well, lets look at this, which party wants stringent governmental controls over business? Ain't conservatives.

Which party is using the FBI and the DOJ to violently suppress the opposition?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a history of racism?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a dictator want to be in office?  It ain't the conservatives.

Midcan, you ever read before you post?
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on September 26, 2022, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 12:17:14 PMHe gives all these links but none of them say what he claims they say. He thinks if he claims that the right are racist and then posts a link about a journalist whining about the right that that will somehow give weight to his baseless claim.

Oh have I mentioned that pigs can fly? Sure, thing have a look....
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/pork)

See, I posted a link so my claim MUST be true  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I'll take midcans lead and avoid sites that may be harmful to my computer. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2022, 01:14:47 PMI'll take midcans lead and avoid sites that may be harmful to my computer. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Thats right!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on September 26, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 09:02:17 PMThats right!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 26, 2022, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Possum on September 26, 2022, 12:42:49 PMWell, lets look at this, which party wants stringent governmental controls over business? Ain't conservatives.

Which party is using the FBI and the DOJ to violently suppress the opposition?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a history of racism?  It ain't the conservatives.

Which party has a dictator want to be in office?  It ain't the conservatives.

Midcan, you ever read before you post?

Hmmmmm
QuoteA system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.Oppressive, dictatorial control.

That sounds EXACTLY like leftism, and nothing there has even a wiff of conservatism at all. The libbies dont have any examples of the right actually acting like fascists, just like they have no examples of trump ever saying anything racist  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on September 30, 2022, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 23, 2022, 06:27:13 AMSeriously? Everyone knows BLM is a Soros created Marxist movement designed to divide races.
I know you know better, and it's your job to promote lies on their behalf, but no one on this forum is that stupid, and our readership knows it as well. [snippet]


Many people think Marx and Marxism are interesting interpretations of social / economic history. But how George Soros gets mixed up in all this is just conspiracy thinking. I/we need proof, and the source of proof must be a reliable source. There is none as this is a convenient fiction of finger pointing.

This piece covers Marxism well. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marxism.asp

Fascism differs and there is plenty of material online and in books that explain it. One just below.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

And we surely don't need Soros as a cause of division and racism. Our own history of slavery should provide enough proof and sufficient examples. If you want to understand this division, the book below is a place to start.

'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27209433-white-trash

"Only in America can you find so many angry people claiming to love their country, while hating almost anyone in it."  Don King


Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on September 30, 2022, 06:37:16 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 30, 2022, 05:59:08 AMMany people think Marx and Marxism are interesting interpretations of social / economic history. But how George Soros gets mixed up in all this is just conspiracy thinking. I/we need proof, and the source of proof must be a reliable source. There is none as this is a convenient fiction of finger pointing.

This piece covers Marxism well. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marxism.asp

Fascism differs and there is plenty of material online and in books that explain it. One just below.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

And we surely don't need Soros as a cause of division and racism. Our own history of slavery should provide enough proof and sufficient examples. If you want to understand this division, the book below is a place to start.

'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27209433-white-trash

"Only in America can you find so many angry people claiming to love their country, while hating almost anyone in it."  Don King








You're doing that fucked up spacing shit again, I won't say it again!
It has become blatantly obvious you have an AI to call upon when posting, there is nothing human about your responses.
This nothing you would write, with the exception of the racist content about white trash, that may have been the only human connection in your post.

Your posts literally amount to you cutting and pasting crap a pooter spewed out.
To even make the absurd claim that Soros is somehow not involved is ludicrous, even his own Open Secrets website explains it out.

These obscure quotes you seem to pull out of your ass screams of help from a AI. No one, and I mean no one in their Right mind would ever quote fuckin Don King. Are you serious? Did you think your little AI could pull that racist out as an example of culture?

OK kid, it's time to come clean. I don't care that you use an AI for assistance, I don't even care that you're paid to post here. Seriously, I really don't, it's entraining at times, but you're depending way too much on the pooter for your posts, they have little humanity.

Just do me a favor, drop your 'Good reads" bull shit, that's fluff no one gives a fuck about, especially sine you've admitted you don't click our links, so stop wasting our time.


Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on September 30, 2022, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 30, 2022, 05:59:08 AMMany people think Marx and Marxism are interesting interpretations of social / economic history. But how George Soros gets mixed up in all this is just conspiracy thinking.
Soros is a conspiracy theory???  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

His role in all this has been well documented by very reliable sources. But I see you havent done your research.

QuoteI/we need proof, and the source of proof must be a reliable source. There is none as this is a convenient fiction of finger pointing.

Actually there is alot of proof from reliable sources...
https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/ (https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/)
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/why-is-soros-spending-over-48-million-funding-media-organizations (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/why-is-soros-spending-over-48-million-funding-media-organizations)
https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/how-george-soros-is-remaking-americas-justice-system/ (https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/how-george-soros-is-remaking-americas-justice-system/)

And those are just a few of the reliable and well documented sources. Thats why its a publicly accepted fact. Everyone says it, the media are the only ones who dont and they are literally paying millions for lying, while centrist and right wing media are not.

QuoteThis piece covers Marxism well. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marxism.asp
Known leftist source. Pushed russiagate hoax.

QuoteFascism differs and there is plenty of material online and in books that explain it. One just below.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
Actually thats a pretty bad source...
"There has been considerable disagreement among historians and political scientists about the nature of fascism."
It basically says fascism is whatever you want it to be, which ignores historical facts tying it to leftism and communism.



QuoteAnd we surely don't need Soros as a cause of division and racism.
Yes we do, america usually isnt divided, at least not until the left came along...


QuoteOur own history of slavery should provide enough proof and sufficient examples. If you want to understand this division, the book below is a place to start.

'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27209433-white-trash
Remember, most white trash are vote democrat  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
and why not? They are the party of the KKK

Quote"Only in America can you find so many angry people claiming to love their country, while hating almost anyone in it."  Don King
Exactly! This describes the left perfectly!

Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2022, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 30, 2022, 05:59:08 AMMany people think Marx and Marxism are interesting interpretations of social / economic history. But how George Soros gets mixed up in all this is just conspiracy thinking. I/we need proof, and the source of proof must be a reliable source. There is none as this is a convenient fiction of finger pointing.

Midcan, what did I say about posting links?  No more.  You need to discuss or debate.  If you lack the knowledge or intellect to do so, that's fine, but no links.  At some point, you need to learn to do your own thinking.

With that said, no.  Marxism is an ideology formulated by a severely intellectually-stunted loser, which is why it's so palatable for even dumber losers.  Human nature trumps all, which is something you disagree with (again, because you're not very bright).

There is not a single intelligent Marxist on this planet.  That's a fact.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 01:02:28 PM
Taxed, You know what the DI said about opinions. I have not seen a single substantive example of proof of George Soros being a creator of BLM or much else I've read about him on this site. People can think all sort of crazy things, doesn't make it so. If there is no corroborating data then it is just rumor or hearsay. Sorry but I need proof - from respected sources.

Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 03, 2022, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 01:02:28 PMTaxed, You know what the DI said about opinions. I have not seen a single substantive example of proof of George Soros being a creator of BLM or much else I've read about him on this site. People can think all sort of crazy things, doesn't make it so. If there is no corroborating data then it is just rumor or hearsay. Sorry but I need proof - from respected sources.



https://banned.video/watch?id=5ed9b8452b2f240024f48316
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Possum on October 03, 2022, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 01:02:28 PMTaxed, You know what the DI said about opinions. I have not seen a single substantive example of proof of George Soros being a creator of BLM or much else I've read about him on this site. People can think all sort of crazy things, doesn't make it so. If there is no corroborating data then it is just rumor or hearsay. Sorry but I need proof - from respected sources.


And when are you going to use respected sources? And answer questions? and stop changing the subject?
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 04:20:53 PM
You are all gonna scream and shout but info wars is not a reliable source of honest and critical  information. The major spokesperson is a doofus fool. You may as well ban me now for I will always be honest and check sources. I also think it wrong that you censor my posts. If this is goodbye, be well, but read read read and read honest sources. BLM founders below. Info at bottom.

I need to update these lists:

http://midcan5.blogspot.com/2016/10/worth-read.html

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black Lives Matter Movement'

https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/BLM

"In 2013, three female Black organizers — Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi — created a Black-centered political will and movement building project called Black Lives Matter.  Black Lives Matter began with a social media hashtag, #BlackLivesMatter, after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin back in 2012.  The movement grew nationally in 2014 after the deaths of Michael Brown in Missouri and Eric Garner in New York.  Since then it has established itself as a worldwide movement, particularly after the death of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis, MN.  Most recently, #Black Lives Matter has spearheaded demonstrations worldwide protesting police brutality and systematic racism that overwhelmingly effects the Black community."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/

'Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.'



Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 03, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 04:20:53 PMYou are all gonna scream and shout but info wars is not a reliable source of honest and critical  information. The major spokesperson is a doofus fool. You may as well ban me now for I will always be honest and check sources. I also think it wrong that you censor my posts. If this is goodbye, be well, but read read read and read honest sources. BLM founders below. Info at bottom.

I need to update these lists:

http://midcan5.blogspot.com/2016/10/worth-read.html

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black Lives Matter Movement'

https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/BLM

"In 2013, three female Black organizers — Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi — created a Black-centered political will and movement building project called Black Lives Matter.  Black Lives Matter began with a social media hashtag, #BlackLivesMatter, after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin back in 2012.  The movement grew nationally in 2014 after the deaths of Michael Brown in Missouri and Eric Garner in New York.  Since then it has established itself as a worldwide movement, particularly after the death of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis, MN.  Most recently, #Black Lives Matter has spearheaded demonstrations worldwide protesting police brutality and systematic racism that overwhelmingly effects the Black community."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/

'Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.'




Watch the damn video! I don't care what you think about the site, it has nothing to do with the information being put forth!
This is also the last time I'm going to say this, so listen up!@





Stop spacing 8 spaces at the bottom before the quote!
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:03:24 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 04:20:53 PMYou are all gonna scream and shout but info wars is not a reliable source of honest and critical  information. The major spokesperson is a doofus fool. You may as well ban me now for I will always be honest and check sources. I also think it wrong that you censor my posts. If this is goodbye, be well, but read read read and read honest sources. BLM founders below. Info at bottom.

I need to update these lists:

http://midcan5.blogspot.com/2016/10/worth-read.html

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros'

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black Lives Matter Movement'

https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/BLM

"In 2013, three female Black organizers — Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi — created a Black-centered political will and movement building project called Black Lives Matter.  Black Lives Matter began with a social media hashtag, #BlackLivesMatter, after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin back in 2012.  The movement grew nationally in 2014 after the deaths of Michael Brown in Missouri and Eric Garner in New York.  Since then it has established itself as a worldwide movement, particularly after the death of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis, MN.  Most recently, #Black Lives Matter has spearheaded demonstrations worldwide protesting police brutality and systematic racism that overwhelmingly effects the Black community."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/

'Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.'





Ahhh there it is! The blind assumption that centrism is the most unbiased side  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Lets be logical here and use some reasoning. Historically speaking the right wing is the only unbiased side. Centrists have been caught falling for the lefts lies and the left openly are paying millions for lying.(and yes FOX is centerleft)

However, is there ANY example of the right wing media collectively lying about anything? No? Then the right has credibility while the left does not and the center has some.

If you cant show examples of the right lying then the following is true....
By saying info wars is right wing you are saying they are credible, THANKS!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:06:22 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 01:02:28 PMTaxed, You know what the DI said about opinions. I have not seen a single substantive example of proof of George Soros being a creator of BLM or much else I've read about him on this site. People can think all sort of crazy things, doesn't make it so. If there is no corroborating data then it is just rumor or hearsay. Sorry but I need proof - from respected sources.



But you dont respect right wing sources and those are the only sources who have a history of credibility. A human being can never learn the truth from centrist or left wing sources, which are paying millions in legal fees for lying.

In fact you seem to give more weight to the sources with a history of lying than those that dont  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:07:42 AM
Quote from: Possum on October 03, 2022, 02:10:14 PMAnd when are you going to use respected sources? And answer questions? and stop changing the subject?

He wont answer you. He almost NEVER quotes anybody and replies directly to a question. Its not in his script.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2022, 08:09:12 AM
How is it possible that someone can be so afraid of the truth?
This Bot believes FUX is right wing. :rolleyes:
Quote from: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:03:24 AMAhhh there it is! The blind assumption that centrism is the most unbiased side  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Lets be logical here and use some reasoning. Historically speaking the right wing is the only unbiased side. Centrists have been caught falling for the lefts lies and the left openly are paying millions for lying.(and yes FOX is centerleft)

However, is there ANY example of the right wing media collectively lying about anything? No? Then the right has credibility while the left does not and the center has some.

If you cant show examples of the right lying then the following is true....
By saying info wars is right wing you are saying they are credible, THANKS!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

How is it possible that someone can be so afraid of the truth?
This Bot believes FUX is right wing. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:11:31 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 03, 2022, 04:20:53 PMYou are all gonna scream and shout but info wars is not a reliable source of honest and critical  information. The major spokesperson is a doofus fool. You may as well ban me now for I will always be honest and check sources. I also think it wrong that you censor my posts.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: sorry but you cant call victim here since no one is censoring your posts. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:




Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:14:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2022, 08:09:12 AMHow is it possible that someone can be so afraid of the truth?
This Bot believes FUX is right wing. :rolleyes:
How is it possible that someone can be so afraid of the truth?
This Bot believes FUX is right wing. :rolleyes:

Its in his conditioning. Notice how he only ever uses left wing and centrist sources, spreading misinformation, then acts as if its censorship to demand he provide facts.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2022, 08:44:48 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:11:31 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol: sorry but you cant call victim here since no one is censoring your posts. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I edited his posts, but I warned him, no more links to Marxist books on this site.
So I simply deleted his links.
He's also been warned about his hitting the enter key a dozen times when replying, but I think thats his AI program screwing up.

Trolls are using an AI link to research anything they type into it, even spits out rebuttals, but it is so obvious because you'l see these same exact rebuttals used in twitturd and on Disqus.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2022, 08:44:48 AMI edited his posts, but I warned him, no more links to Marxist books on this site.
So I simply deleted his links.
He's also been warned about his hitting the enter key a dozen times when replying, but I think thats his AI program screwing up.

Trolls are using an AI link to research anything they type into it, even spits out rebuttals, but it is so obvious because you'l see these same exact rebuttals used in twitturd and on Disqus.

Ya there is too much copy and paste from all of them. Thats why we call them NPCs, just like the programed characters in video games.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2022, 11:10:52 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 09:03:27 AMYa there is too much copy and paste from all of them. Thats why we call them NPCs, just like the programed characters in video games.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Yep, 12 year olds hiding behind a bot while waiting for the unsuspecting.
I used one in Quake 30 years ago. :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Possum on October 04, 2022, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on October 04, 2022, 08:07:42 AMHe wont answer you. He almost NEVER quotes anybody and replies directly to a question. Its not in his script.
He reminds me of an old commercial which stated that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.  :lol:  :lol: 
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Snuffy on October 04, 2022, 03:18:31 PM
No one has blamed him for being a waste of oxygen yet. ....  :yikes   I'm surprised.   :bigl   :bigl   :bigl
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: midcan5 on October 04, 2022, 04:03:29 PM
Solar,  I did listen, my thoughts:

The young black who comments in the video is a moron and his comments stupid, without basis, he is there only to support their viewpoint. Black lives matter exists because of the obvious unnecessary killings of blacks, usually by police. Stats below. The older black makes sense and has a more balanced approach. Back to Soros, he was 14 and is honest in that interview, consider yourself at 14 what did you know and consider his circumstances. Carlson piece is interesting as it make comparisons and he does mention the police charged. But there is nothing substantive about Soros in the entire piece, except the guy I mentioned at top. Does Soros support lots of organizations, yes, he does. But that is his prerogative. 

The City Journal op is interesting and while agitprop, it gives you a broad idea of just how much life and stuff Soros was/is involved in.       

Now in fairness, allow me to post a few repartees. I listened and read your post.

'Why is billionaire George Soros a bogeyman for the hard right?'
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros  '
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter'
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2022, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 04, 2022, 04:03:29 PMSolar,  I did listen, my thoughts:

The young black who comments in the video is a moron and his comments stupid, without basis, he is there only to support their viewpoint. Black lives matter exists because of the obvious unnecessary killings of blacks, usually by police. Stats below. The older black makes sense and has a more balanced approach. Back to Soros, he was 14 and is honest in that interview, consider yourself at 14 what did you know and consider his circumstances. Carlson piece is interesting as it make comparisons and he does mention the police charged. But there is nothing substantive about Soros in the entire piece, except the guy I mentioned at top. Does Soros support lots of organizations, yes, he does. But that is his prerogative. 

The City Journal op is interesting and while agitprop, it gives you a broad idea of just how much life and stuff Soros was/is involved in.       

Now in fairness, allow me to post a few repartees. I listened and read your post.

'Why is billionaire George Soros a bogeyman for the hard right?'
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros  '
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter'
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/


And still you have no issue with the groups he support? Is this purposeful ignorance, or support for communists?
OWS was the first of many that Soros supported.

https://thenewamerican.com/big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street/

Why do you defend such an anti peace, American hating commie?
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 05, 2022, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2022, 11:10:52 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Yep, 12 year olds hiding behind a bot while waiting for the unsuspecting.
I used one in Quake 30 years ago. :lol:

ahhh quake! I used to watch my dad play that when I was little.
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: T Hunt on October 05, 2022, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 04, 2022, 04:03:29 PMSolar,  I did listen, my thoughts:

The young black who comments in the video is a moron and his comments stupid, without basis, he is there only to support their viewpoint. Black lives matter exists because of the obvious unnecessary killings of blacks, usually by police. Stats below. The older black makes sense and has a more balanced approach. Back to Soros, he was 14 and is honest in that interview, consider yourself at 14 what did you know and consider his circumstances. Carlson piece is interesting as it make comparisons and he does mention the police charged. But there is nothing substantive about Soros in the entire piece, except the guy I mentioned at top. Does Soros support lots of organizations, yes, he does. But that is his prerogative. 

The City Journal op is interesting and while agitprop, it gives you a broad idea of just how much life and stuff Soros was/is involved in.       

Now in fairness, allow me to post a few repartees. I listened and read your post.

'Why is billionaire George Soros a bogeyman for the hard right?'
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157

'Fact check: False claims about George Soros  '
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-false-george-soros-claims/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2XJ

'Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter'
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/


Wow, its like you have a template for your answers or something. I swear they are almost all laid out identically. Almost as if....
Title: Re: Interesting Series on the Similarities of Fascism and Communism
Post by: Solar on October 05, 2022, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on October 05, 2022, 02:07:08 PMahhh quake! I used to watch my dad play that when I was little.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Now I'm feeling old. :biggrin:

What's worse? I was in the clan, "LOF" Lecherous Old Farts.