Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2020, 09:01:36 AM
How is it possible that 13 tiny colonies could ever conceive of overthrowing England? Sad, your education has failed you.

One other point, overthrowing an oppressive govt is at the very core of Conservatism!!!

They over threw the governments of the colonies. As for trying for 13 years, sometimes you have to accept you can't always get what you want. The rebels were, after all a minority. Their success was partly due to the help of a real tyranny, the French.
The very core of conservatism came out of the struggle over the succession. Conservatives have always stood for loyalty to the country and the rule of Law.

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 09:10:07 AM
They over threw the governments of the colonies. As for trying for 13 years, sometimes you have to accept you can't always get what you want. The rebels were, after all a minority. Their success was partly due to the help of a real tyranny, the French.
The very core of conservatism came out of the struggle over the succession. Conservatives have always stood for loyalty to the country and the rule of Law.

Yet the 13 colonies ratified the Constitution, all because England's oppression. Taxation without Representation, equates to slavery.

Inspite of all of the above, the success of the Americans in the War of Independence has been of immence benifit to the USA,the UK and Canada. The UK and Canada have the greatest possible ally and partner in the US and inspite of the friendly debates over ancient history,(like when you lost the War of 1812  ), we could never have anticipated a better friend. Canada is the American's largest trading partner and vice versa.

Considering the state of the UK and Canada...our revolution was God inspired...God protected.    About the same time was the French Revolution which was demon inspired.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
which he himself is responsible for bringing much of that incivility and indecency on.

I'm curious. How so?

He is no conservative...He may be republican...about as much as Jennifer rubin and  Ana Navarro.  LOL

and he is a never trumper Blaming trump for everything just as the dems do.

rabid.

Little blurb in there about Zinn.

https://archives.frontpagemag.com/fpm/hard-indoctrination-soft-indoctrination-and-books-david-swindle/

https://archives.frontpagemag.com/fpm/dangerous-newcomer-lefts-war-against-trump-america-discover-networks/

https://archives.frontpagemag.com/fpm/david-brooks-historical-revisionism-paul-gottfried/


https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/03/david-brooks-destructive-call-reparations-christopher-degroot/


David Brooks: 'I was once a socialist'
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/12/06/david-brooks-socialist/
Posted: December 6, 2019
Of course, this being David Brooks, his idea of an ideal capitalist state might include the nations of Scandinavia ... Brooks says he began to change his mind about socialism while working as a reporter. ... David Brooks isn't usually my cup of tea but yesterday he wrote an opinion piece about his own youthful socialism which I was happy to see appearing at the NY Times...
Now the nuclear family is insufficient?
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/02/17/now-nuclear-family-insufficient/
Posted: February 17, 2020
The great defect of the nuclear family, Brooks asserts, is that if there's a crisis — a death, divorce, job loss, poor school grades — there's no backup team. ... In a powerful essay for the Atlantic — "The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake" — New York Times columnist David Brooks argues that the family structure we've held up as the cultural ideal for the past half century has been a catastrophe for many... ... You can take your pick between the original piece by David Brooks or the hearty endorsement it received from Robert J. Samuelson...
NYT's Brooks: Let's face it, we drive traffic by writing "something nasty" about Trump
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/06/1...face-drive-traffic-writing-something-nasty-trump/
Posted: June 18, 2019
In a one-on-one interview with CBN's Chief Political Analyst David Brody, New York Times Columnist David Brooks admits that when it comes to the media industry, President Trump has been "good for business." ... And while Brooks says his NYT editors tell him to write what he wants, Brooks knows what pays the bills, baby ... Don't get David Brooks wrong...

Thank you for clarifying. I confess I don't know that much about his history.
The political philosophy that you call conservatism seems more theology than political science; RE- the theory that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights come frome God. That is similar to the idea that our Head of State is elected by God. ie. the Coronation ceremony. Nobody actually believes she was annointed by God but it is good theatre and a long cherished tradition.

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
Thank you for clarifying. I confess I don't know that much about his history.
The political philosophy that you call conservatism seems more theology than political science; RE- the theory that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights come frome God. That is similar to the idea that our Head of State is elected by God. ie. the Coronation ceremony. Nobody actually believes she was annointed by God but it is good theatre and a long cherished tradition.

No, our Rights come from God, not govt. Understanding this will make things much easier as you traverse threads here.

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
Thank you for clarifying. I confess I don't know that much about his history.
The political philosophy that you call conservatism seems more theology than political science; RE- the theory that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights come frome God. That is similar to the idea that our Head of State is elected by God. ie. the Coronation ceremony. Nobody actually believes she was annointed by God but it is good theatre and a long cherished tradition.

conservativism isn't theology.  It's a political philosophy.   Individual rights, some God given. Such as right to protect ourselves.      Small government, them staying out of our lives.   Getting out of our way.   Respect for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...OURs NOT Theirs.   Government's business is to protect us from foreign invasion and guarantee OUR rights, not theirs.

I can understand your confusion when you read leftist idiocy like this....

Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting arrogance,prejudice and petty behaviour. The central tenets of conservatism include social conformity to harmful traditions, the delusion of loyalty, the delusion of hierarchy, the social construct of authority, and the idea that having property rights means that you can trample over people because "it's my house".--Wiki

wiki is leftist.  of course this is how they define it.  LOLOL

Leftists will define themselves by their actions..Often their words when their guard is down.    Just watch Clintons, Obamas and other leftists.  Pelosi etc etc.

or read some of this:

https://archives.frontpagemag.com/fpm/horowitz-conservatives-must-fight-fire-fire-frontpagemagcom/

https://conservativehardliner.com/what-is-conservatism

Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2020, 11:11:46 AM
https://conservativehardliner.com/what-is-conservatism

thanks, only read part of it but had to come back to tell you ...excellent.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 11:12:45 AM
thanks, only read part of it but had to come back to tell you ...excellent.

Thank you, it's a bit of a work in progress.